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Naxie
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Posted - 2007.07.31 00:11:00 -
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Hi,
I'm trying to take to the life of piracy, and have been spending time in a handful of lowsc systems getting some experience, but I keep getting killed by a Crow.
It's so fast I just cannot do anything about its range and its spewing out T2 missiles which I am helpless against and cannot warp away due to being jammed.
Is there anything that can kill a crow thats not an inty? I can fly frigate-battleship and AF's, both Minnie and Gallente.
Can someone please advise on fitting and tactics to take out such a fast ship.
Naxie
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Centurion1
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Posted - 2007.07.31 00:14:00 -
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Buy a huggin and double webb it?
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GMCUNT52
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Posted - 2007.07.31 00:20:00 -
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Good ya fukin deserve it ya noob.
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Naxie
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Posted - 2007.07.31 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Centurion1 Buy a huggin and double webb it?
I can't fly an huggin and I can't ever get close than 18km to the Crow!
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Devian 666
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.07.31 00:24:00 -
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t2 precision missles can be surprisingly effective, or t2 warrior drones if they're fast enough.
I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain. |
Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.31 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Naxie
Originally by: Centurion1 Buy a huggin and double webb it?
I can't fly an huggin and I can't ever get close than 18km to the Crow!
Huginn webs from 40km +..but tbh a crow would never go near one if it had any sense
What are you flying? Cause a crow is a big problem for a lot of minie ships. It's missiles never miss, and yes they move freaky fast lol.
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James Grand
Phoenix Navy Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.07.31 00:49:00 -
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Edited by: James Grand on 31/07/2007 00:49:39 Nosdomi should take care of it pretty quickly.
Edit: Use t2 light drones, mediums probably won't be able to catch him and heavies won't even come close.
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Setana Manoro
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.31 00:52:00 -
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Speed fit a gallente cruiser and overload speed mods when he engages, best case scenario you can get within webb range when you surprise him. Worst case scenario, you die but you had a chance.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.31 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: James Grand Edited by: James Grand on 31/07/2007 00:49:39 Nosdomi should take care of it pretty quickly.
Edit: Use t2 light drones, mediums probably won't be able to catch him and heavies won't even come close.
Domi to kill a ceptor, is kind of over kill Warrior T2 are very fast and nasty, so if you can fly a rupture and fill drone bay with them, that would work. But even then, I think the crow would run.
They are hard to kill
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Jamikest
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.07.31 01:01:00 -
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Edited by: Jamikest on 31/07/2007 01:01:43 A good Crow can kite t2 light drones all day.
Precision missiles in a, oh say, Caracal should do nicely.
Or use a BS sized nos. Unless hes in faction fit, with a 28km scram.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.31 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jamikest
Or use a BS sized nos. Unless hes in faction fit, with a 28km scram.
Why do you need a BS to kill 1 inty The suggestion that you need a large NOS to kill a crow, kind of emphasises how good it is as tackler. Oh and see new NOS nerf...so the crow will still keep you scrammed
Crow would never break a decent BS tank solo, so why would it attack solo. If it scrammed you and you in a NOS Domi, I am betting he has friends in next system
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Jonny Magellan
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Posted - 2007.07.31 01:10:00 -
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Edited by: Jonny Magellan on 31/07/2007 01:11:06 This is just a noob opinion but a crow would be hard to kill with any ship aside from those minmatar recons or another interceptor. If hes losing he would just warp away anyway.
I think 2 remote sensor dampeners would be enough to bring them to nosf/neut range if I am not mistaken.
And like above poster said a crow with max skills does less than 100 dps I think you can perma tank that on big ships.
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Jamikest
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.07.31 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Jamikest
Or use a BS sized nos. Unless hes in faction fit, with a 28km scram.
Why do you need a BS to kill 1 inty The suggestion that you need a large NOS to kill a crow, kind of emphasises how good it is as tackler. Oh and see new NOS nerf...so the crow will still keep you scrammed
Crow would never break a decent BS tank solo, so why would it attack solo. If it scrammed you and you in a NOS Domi, I am betting he has friends in next system
1) He asked how to stop a Crow. Not how to fairly and politely deter said miscreant.
2) If someone pirates in a Crow, its because they know they are near invincible. Unless the pilot screws up. Its a tactical advantage if you will. Why not use any means at your disposal to deter him?
3) Why would you use future eve changes to debate a current problem? Thats just plain silly.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.31 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jamikest
2) If someone pirates in a Crow, its because they know they are near invincible. Unless the pilot screws up. Its a tactical advantage if you will. Why not use any means at your disposal to deter him?
Yep, kind of like a Vaga or speed Ishtar with less Dps. It's not so much about how you kill a crow, it's how you make him run away
As for number 3...well I am silly
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Orontes Ovasi
22nd ACU
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Posted - 2007.07.31 01:21:00 -
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Vexor could hold a lot of t2 smalls. shouldn't that work? Not that I've actually tried it.
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Hannobaal
Gallente Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.31 01:47:00 -
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A well fitted (by that I don't simply mean expensively fitted, but intelligently fitted as well) Thrasher could kill anything but a super rigged faction fitted Crow. ------------------
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.31 02:00:00 -
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If you're flying a bs then just fit a heavy neut on the highs and watch him cry as u insta drain him. then just mwd to him, web and annihilate.
DE
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Avan Strega
Thunderstruck.
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Posted - 2007.07.31 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal A well fitted (by that I don't simply mean expensively fitted, but intelligently fitted as well) Thrasher could kill anything but a super rigged faction fitted Crow.
this. ---
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Jadiin
Mindstar Technology United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.07.31 11:52:00 -
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Yup... best bet is a destroyer.
Ppl and the OP are missing the point as such in recommending a BS to kill an inty cos the INTY won't engage anything it knows can kill it.
An inty is likely to engage a dessie however but it's most ilkely that the second the crow gets smacked with damage he'll be a million miles away from you.
Ultimately my advice to the OP is keep your eye on your scanner, a crow shouldn't be jumping you anyway if you were already doing this. If he shows up, you leave or refuse to come out of your safes.
Failing that train up for an inty yourself and see if you can't beat him at his own game.
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jimmyjam
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.07.31 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Devian 666 t2 precision missles can be surprisingly effective, or t2 warrior drones if they're fast enough.
QFT My nighthawk loves crows that come near it when its loaded with precision missles.
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Linium
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.31 11:57:00 -
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Jaguar with 3 overdives and a T2 MWD.
Web Scram and Med extender.
That what i would try.
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.31 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Linium Jaguar with 3 overdives and a T2 MWD.
Web Scram and Med extender.
That what i would try.
not agile enough i'm afraid. a decent crow would run rings around you.
DE
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Tregaron
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2007.07.31 12:16:00 -
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i prob shouldn't say this because i fly the crow and pirate alot wiv it but:
i use a fleet stabber here's the fittings:
4x 220 t2 1x corpi a-type med nos
1x mwd t2 1x dis t2 2x large shield ext t2
2x nano t2 2x overdrive t2 1x gyro t2
crow's orbit about 12-21km if they ain't got faction scram.
my nos goes 19km so i drain them dry, gun go up2 15km odd and doing 3.9k in the stabber just burn through them. got 9.8k shield and well 1 crow wouldn't get through that 2 quick. [/url] |
Tiberious Marz
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Posted - 2007.07.31 13:07:00 -
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Edited by: Tiberious Marz on 31/07/2007 13:09:41
Originally by: Jamikest Edited by: Jamikest on 31/07/2007 01:01:43 A good Crow can kite t2 light drones all day.
Precision missiles in a, oh say, Caracal should do nicely. quote]
Signed. w/assault launchers, T2 if you can use them. You could eat up any frig sized ship(at least 1v1). I dont even always use precision and rarely have a problem w/ intys or AFs
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Plave Okice
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.31 13:11:00 -
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If you can fly Gallente AF's you shouldn't have too much training to do to fly Gallente Inties, I've eaten many crows 1v1 in a blasteranis, fly manually (don't just click orbit) and you will always at one point get within web range (overload helps), then just web, approach and kill, so easy they just melt. (Don't forget your two drones).
If they try and straight line away from you it's just a question of speed, if you can't catch them it's easy to disengage.
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DudTrap
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.31 13:27:00 -
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I kill ceptors and dictors all the time in my Stealth bomber. Get your cruise missile skills up so missiles go about 5-6k and just wait cloaked untill the ceptor slows a bit and then unleash the cruise missiles, it will take 1 volley with excellent skills, and 2 with med-crap skills. Pretty effective interceptor killer :D and of course you can fire them from miles away so if it flys away from ya and stops shoot it again lol :)
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Lavraen
Minmatar Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.07.31 13:56:00 -
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Try a caracal with T2 assaults, bloodclaw precision lights, the best web you can afford and utilise that 10m3 of drone space effectively...
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Engelsmutter
The Blue Omega Gene
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Posted - 2007.07.31 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Lavraen Try a caracal with T2 assaults, bloodclaw precision lights, the best web you can afford and utilise that 10m3 of drone space effectively...
nobody in a crow engages that
I could also say 'buy a titan and doomsday him!!1112' and also miss the point.
The stealthbomber is made for that job. unfortunetaly cruise missiles are large-scale weapons and thus need some time to skill ;/
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Elles D
Caldari angels of darkness LTD Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.31 14:45:00 -
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sb's die in about 10 secs to intys, especially the crow. Even with precisions, they are useless. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) |
Zkillz kun
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.31 14:58:00 -
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friend of mine instapoped an crow in his munnin one time, i bet you can do the same with a ruppie. just fit artileies and sensor boosts and use EMP ammo. just shoot him as soon as he warps in and you should be good,. if you dont get him at first try moving in one direction instead of approaching and he will be at a slower transversal speed every once inawhile and you can pop him then.
another strategy would be to fit a bunch of damps, but that would gimp your setup and i assume you are trying to pirate, not just kill crows.
you could also try going somewhere else. doubt he's gonna follow you _____
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.31 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Zkillz kun friend of mine instapoped an crow in his munnin one time, i bet you can do the same with a ruppie. just fit artileies and sensor boosts and use EMP ammo. just shoot him as soon as he warps in and you should be good,. if you dont get him at first try moving in one direction instead of approaching and he will be at a slower transversal speed every once inawhile and you can pop him then.
another strategy would be to fit a bunch of damps, but that would gimp your setup and i assume you are trying to pirate, not just kill crows.
you could also try going somewhere else. doubt he's gonna follow you
The only way a munnin or rupture is gonna kill a crow is if the crow pilot is a nub matey. we killed 1 in a frig gang last night and he was shooting me for ages. the only hit he got was on approach when i let my transversal slip slightly too tight to get a quick tackle. it takes a crow no time at all really to get up to speed and when in orbit it's all over.
DE
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Pilok Shitfly
Minmatar Soliders Of Eve The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.07.31 15:49:00 -
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A vaga should kill a crow easy. Use mwd to fly away from him and start shooting (i think t2 220 will be best for this)
I never had the chance to try this but i think this should kill it
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Elles D
Caldari angels of darkness LTD Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.31 22:45:00 -
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Theres a very simple way that can be used in any ship really. If you find yourself being attacked in-belt then just fly into the roids, it'll bump him and then he will die - simply put. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) |
Liang Nuren
The Refugees
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Posted - 2007.07.31 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Elles D Theres a very simple way that can be used in any ship really. If you find yourself being attacked in-belt then just fly into the roids, it'll bump him and then he will die - simply put.
Yeah, this is absolutely true.... ^_^
Erm, Elles... you left Epic? We didn't scare you out of the area did we?
Liang
Originally by: "QproQ"
When people say "Put 'stabs on your 'cane", they mean GYROSTABS"
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Jamikest
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.07.31 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: DudTrap I kill ceptors and dictors all the time in my Stealth bomber. Get your cruise missile skills up so missiles go about 5-6k and just wait cloaked untill the ceptor slows a bit and then unleash the cruise missiles, it will take 1 volley with excellent skills, and 2 with med-crap skills. Pretty effective interceptor killer :D and of course you can fire them from miles away so if it flys away from ya and stops shoot it again lol :)
Find my KB mate.. Crows eat stealth bombers for lunch, then spit out Arbalest launchers for desert. This coming from a pilot who flys both intys and SBs... I have been hit in my Crow by your beloved cruise missiles.. O no, 1 damage. Yea, 1. They can fly fast enough to get there, but the explosion velocity cant keep up.
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Elles D
Caldari angels of darkness LTD Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.31 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Elles D Theres a very simple way that can be used in any ship really. If you find yourself being attacked in-belt then just fly into the roids, it'll bump him and then he will die - simply put.
Yeah, this is absolutely true.... ^_^
Erm, Elles... you left Epic? We didn't scare you out of the area did we?
Liang
Hhheheeh of course not m8 (i'vr had to contest with Veto before, so it wasn't that bad). I just simply ran outta targets and wanted my sec back after so long; check my private kb in the bio for a more in-depth exp. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) |
Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.01 00:21:00 -
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autocannon thrasher!
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Redglare's Demise
Insult to Injury
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Posted - 2007.08.01 03:02:00 -
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Rail Enyo...
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Phelan Lore
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.01 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Zkillz kun friend of mine instapoped an crow in his munnin one time, i bet you can do the same with a ruppie. just fit artileies and sensor boosts and use EMP ammo. just shoot him as soon as he warps in and you should be good,. if you dont get him at first try moving in one direction instead of approaching and he will be at a slower transversal speed every once inawhile and you can pop him then.
another strategy would be to fit a bunch of damps, but that would gimp your setup and i assume you are trying to pirate, not just kill crows.
you could also try going somewhere else. doubt he's gonna follow you
The only way a munnin or rupture is gonna kill a crow is if the crow pilot is a nub matey. we killed 1 in a frig gang last night and he was shooting me for ages. the only hit he got was on approach when i let my transversal slip slightly too tight to get a quick tackle. it takes a crow no time at all really to get up to speed and when in orbit it's all over.
DE
Muninn with 720s and T1 ammo will still track ceptors at about 30k. If they get into orbit closer the muninn is screwed. But if the pilot is smart and is aligned that shouldn't ever happen. -
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PCaBoo
Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.01 07:20:00 -
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vexor with sentry drones? idk. Inty's usually stay away from me.
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DudTrap
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.08.01 09:05:00 -
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Edited by: DudTrap on 01/08/2007 09:09:52 Edited by: DudTrap on 01/08/2007 09:05:46 Edited by: DudTrap on 01/08/2007 09:05:06
Originally by: Jamikest
Originally by: DudTrap I kill ceptors and dictors all the time in my Stealth bomber. Get your cruise missile skills up so missiles go about 5-6k and just wait cloaked untill the ceptor slows a bit and then unleash the cruise missiles, it will take 1 volley with excellent skills, and 2 with med-crap skills. Pretty effective interceptor killer :D and of course you can fire them from miles away so if it flys away from ya and stops shoot it again lol :)
Find my KB mate.. Crows eat stealth bombers for lunch, then spit out Arbalest launchers for desert. This coming from a pilot who flys both intys and SBs... I have been hit in my Crow by your beloved cruise missiles.. O no, 1 damage. Yea, 1. They can fly fast enough to get there, but the explosion velocity cant keep up.
Hehe well im speaking from my experiance, i have killed:
Quote: Interceptor6 |0
Some are solo, most are in a 1-3 man stealth bomber gang. I suppose it all depends on both pilots, who is more daring :D When my missiles hit a ceptor they take it to about 30% structure on the first volley :P
It can also be usefull to have another interceptor in your gang, to bait it, and get a web on it if possible. Then the stealthbomber(s) can uncloak and fire.
Just words from my experience :D
edit: Plus those stealth bomber setups on your killboard are pretty naff :D
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XxSOULxX
Gallente High4Life Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.01 11:08:00 -
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VAGA
then he becomes the prey and you the hunter
YO YO YO TREG sup m8 liek your fleet stabber set up
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Lavraen
Minmatar Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.01 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Engelsmutter
Originally by: Lavraen Try a caracal with T2 assaults, bloodclaw precision lights, the best web you can afford and utilise that 10m3 of drone space effectively...
nobody in a crow engages that
I could also say 'buy a titan and doomsday him!!1112' and also miss the point.
The stealthbomber is made for that job. unfortunetaly cruise missiles are large-scale weapons and thus need some time to skill ;/
You'd be surprised how many crow pilots will go for a caracal. Most setups have heavies on afterall. It's just tailoring the fit for fast ships and the crow pilot wont necessarily know how you are setup.
It's a cheap setup for a caracal and costs far less than potentially losing an SB. Insure your caracal buy Assault II which are cheap as chips and away to go. The only expensive bit are the T2 drones.
It's great to practice with because afterall you're insured so wont lose much but could gain some nice T2 equipment for your own inty.
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Elles D
Caldari angels of darkness LTD Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.08.01 12:10:00 -
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FLY INTO TEH BELTS!!! Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) |
DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.01 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Phelan Lore
Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Zkillz kun friend of mine instapoped an crow in his munnin one time, i bet you can do the same with a ruppie. just fit artileies and sensor boosts and use EMP ammo. just shoot him as soon as he warps in and you should be good,. if you dont get him at first try moving in one direction instead of approaching and he will be at a slower transversal speed every once inawhile and you can pop him then.
another strategy would be to fit a bunch of damps, but that would gimp your setup and i assume you are trying to pirate, not just kill crows.
you could also try going somewhere else. doubt he's gonna follow you
The only way a munnin or rupture is gonna kill a crow is if the crow pilot is a nub matey. we killed 1 in a frig gang last night and he was shooting me for ages. the only hit he got was on approach when i let my transversal slip slightly too tight to get a quick tackle. it takes a crow no time at all really to get up to speed and when in orbit it's all over.
DE
Muninn with 720s and T1 ammo will still track ceptors at about 30k. If they get into orbit closer the muninn is screwed. But if the pilot is smart and is aligned that shouldn't ever happen.
not when the crow is going at 10km/s
DE
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Leotilt Dire
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Posted - 2007.08.01 12:48:00 -
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Arbitrator.
Warrior II's.
Drone navigation skill book.
Drone navigation computers.
Cocky interceptor pilots will die you can get your little friends up over 10km/s iirc (been inactive for a long time )
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.08.01 13:46:00 -
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I love taking on people with t2 drones and t2 precision missiles with my Crow, taking them on a merry conga behind me as the pilot goes WTF.
Stealth Bombers are easy pickings for a compotent Crow pilot.
I have seen Gistii, Snaked out Crows get killed by Rifters though, a particular pilot specialises in eating Intys with his setup.
/me got jacked by a Crow last night in my Rifter, he was only at 6km/s but was fairly compotent and annihalated me, gf
Originally by: High Sierra note to self: dont ever say anything to anyone on the internet about anything ever again.
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Corwain
Gallente Kamite
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Posted - 2007.08.01 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: Corwain on 01/08/2007 19:40:17
Originally by: Leotilt Dire Arbitrator.
Warrior II's.
Drone navigation skill book.
Drone navigation computers.
Cocky interceptor pilots will die you can get your little friends up over 10km/s iirc (been inactive for a long time )
PLEASE tell me how to make my Warrior IIs on an Arbi go 10+ km/s
Cause I've tried and I would REALLY like to know.
EDIT: Not to mention you need to put a web on the bastard to actually kill him...there's a reason Crow pilots invest in faction MWD, and it's not because they can kill everything. -- A Solo Arbitrator vid, Distortion by Corwain |
Leotilt Dire
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Posted - 2007.08.01 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Corwain
PLEASE tell me how to make my Warrior IIs on an Arbi go 10+ km/s
Cause I've tried and I would REALLY like to know.
First you read my post. Then you train Drone navigation to lvl4+ then you fit drone navigation computers. Then you put warrior II's in your drone bay and hey presto warrior II's that go over 10km/s.
Also note I said*****y interceptor pilots will die - short of been in a nanofag ship like a vaga you are not going to kill a clever ceptor pilot, ever.
However when mister crow comes into a 17km orbit in a roid belt you can drag him into the roids, launch drones and wtfpwn him with uber fast drones before he aligns.
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Jadiin
Mindstar Technology United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.08.01 23:27:00 -
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Lool as someone else has already said. It has nothing to do with killing the crow...... It's making it run away and very few ship types allow you to do this whilst still being effective as a pirate.
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LoganFire
Quam Singulari M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.08.02 11:53:00 -
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Taking a crow down is very easy, the trick is to get him to come closer to you. Sensor Dampners for the win
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Atius Tirawa
Minmatar Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.02 12:15:00 -
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Thrasher has a very good chance if you fit it right and have the skills. The Beam fitted Crusaider will go faster and deal more damage then any crow too - so just point the ship streight at the crow, and charge him. Since those missles are not using transversal, you can make that work to your advantage in terms of closing range.
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demonfurbie
Minmatar Covert Nexus Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2007.08.02 15:31:00 -
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if all you are hunting is ceptors/fast ships a scorp can kill them well ... a temp can as well ... light t2 drones and nav computers with armor tank
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Commander Thrawn
Fluffy Rabbit Killers
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Posted - 2007.08.02 15:51:00 -
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I find it funny how the OP's rarely come back after the first page
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William DeMeo
Gallente Dark and Light inc. D-L
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Posted - 2007.08.02 18:15:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Naxie Hi,
I'm trying to take to the life of piracy, and have been spending time in a handful of lowsc systems getting some experience, but I keep getting killed by a Crow.
It's so fast I just cannot do anything about its range and its spewing out T2 missiles which I am helpless against and cannot warp away due to being jammed.
Is there anything that can kill a crow thats not an inty? I can fly frigate-battleship and AF's, both Minnie and Gallente.
Can someone please advise on fitting and tactics to take out such a fast ship.
Naxie
Crows are clearly underpowered and should not be able to be killed. Therefor CCP will add a new method of nossing so the 15km/'s crows impossibly can be killed.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.02 20:01:00 -
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Get a curse... train recon to 3 or 4, and put a neut on there. Or 2... Anything else can go in highs. Missile launchers would work nicely. Get a target painter, MWD, 20km scram, web, and some damps. Some sort of small tank in the lows. No crow is going to kill such a setup...
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Naxie
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Posted - 2007.08.03 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Thrawn I find it funny how the OP's rarely come back after the first page
Hey dude, ive been checking everyday to see if any useful suggestion fitted. Some good stuff for me to try, but also too much useless talking about ships I can't fly and mods I can't afford ;(
I am going to try the T2 light drones with drone mods to help them. All this on a Vexor setup im working on.
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Psorion
The Nine Gates R i s e
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Posted - 2007.08.03 12:42:00 -
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A dessie (Cormorant) with t2 125mm Guns could 2 salvo a crow.
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ChalSto
The Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.03 12:53:00 -
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Eris + jiddijadda Imps + GistMWD + jiddijadda t2rigs = Very sad day for the crow and u can write ur name with a pencil on his flying missiles while orbiting him
Evil will allways triumph, becouse Good is dumb
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Gypsio III
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.03 13:00:00 -
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What are the typical speeds of a T2 Crow, Gisti Crow and Snake Gisti Crow, in typical orbit and straight line, please?
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1RunM1ss1on5
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III What are the typical speeds of a T2 Crow, Gisti Crow and Snake Gisti Crow, in typical orbit and straight line, please?
T2 crow t1 missiles = easily 5000+ T2 crow t2 missiles = same with rage style, probably about 4000+ with precisions
Gistii crow = Easily 7000+ Snake crow = Priceless
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III What are the typical speeds of a T2 Crow, Gisti Crow and Snake Gisti Crow, in typical orbit and straight line, please?
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Gypsio III
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.03 18:13:00 -
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Nice.
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Princess Kuki
Minmatar Vengeance Imperium
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Posted - 2007.08.03 21:31:00 -
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1 cruiser with a damp and nosf, damp means crow wont be able to scram at 15k, if he comes closer to scram, nosf and drones should kill him easy, if we wont come in close, then u can warp away, sorted.
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Bagehi
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.08.03 21:40:00 -
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Nothing you can fly will give that interceptor trouble. Some setups might cause it to break off, basically sensor damps or ECM setups (if he doesn't break off, at the very least, you will be able to this way). Fly with a wingman and you have a shot, because he will have a harder time keeping his traversal up with two targets at the same time. It is a shot, understand he can still be invincible even then.
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THEDON1
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2007.08.04 03:59:00 -
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gisti taranis + speed mods + rigs + rep = win
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Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2007.08.04 07:03:00 -
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fit a damp or two, crow wont be able to lock you until its in web range
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BaliAgha
Storm Corporation Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2007.08.04 14:23:00 -
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I had a crow orbiting myself at 14,000 m/s and I was in a crow myself, my top speed is only 7,000 ms. Each of his volleys brought my shields down 40-50%. My missiles (T2) never hit him. Could never get a web on him and deffenitly never had a chance.
I dont get how he can achieve 14,000 m/s and I dont understand why I got pwned so quickly.
Crows are overpowered... (Or atleast he was)
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Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2007.08.04 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: BaliAgha I had a crow orbiting myself at 14,000 m/s and I was in a crow myself, my top speed is only 7,000 ms. Each of his volleys brought my shields down 40-50%. My missiles (T2) never hit him. Could never get a web on him and deffenitly never had a chance.
I dont get how he can achieve 14,000 m/s and I dont understand why I got pwned so quickly.
Crows are overpowered... (Or atleast he was)
rigs + gist mwd + snakes + gang bonus + max skills, and yes they can go 14km/s if not more
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Rigsta
Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.08.05 16:40:00 -
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A thrasher, Sabre, Eris or Enyo (with rails) will do the job too thanks to range + tracking bonus. Flying into the belts as people have already suggested is a great tactic, just make sure you're fast enough and have the attack range to make use of the surprise.
If you're flying a vexor, warrior IIs with 3 drone navigation computers and lv4 drone navigation should be able to catch him. I'm not sure if they'll fit though, very large CPU req. Failing that, 125mm railgun IIs and tracking computers/enhancers (enough to get the tracking to 0.150 or more) with ammo tailored to 18-20km or so optimal should give him reason to Foxtrot Oscar.
Originally by: Elles D sb's die in about 10 secs to intys, especially the crow. Even with precisions, they are useless.
You need practice with stealth bombers and setups. A crow versus my Nemesis either leaves or dies. 2 would be a fight (or outright death for me if they play it right).
2 damps and an initial (ineffective) salvo to entice them less than 10km away + 1 good webifier. Unleash the missiles only after they're webbed and they mostly insta-pop (level 5 cruise missiles and faction ammo is cheap now), or end up with a sliver of structure left which the ion blaster takes care of.
Originally by: Jim McGregor I felt the disturbance... it was like a million voices suddenly stopped whining for a second. Unfortunantly it then continued.
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Burtie basset
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Posted - 2007.08.05 17:44:00 -
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fit a couple of multi spec jammers best named rather than tech 2 for fitting requirements and cycle them this will give you time to align and warp either that or try webber drones i don't use them but they may work, my mate fly's a nano curse and this will eat a crow for breakfast regardless of speed and missiles hope this helps
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Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr The Firestorm Elite
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Posted - 2007.08.05 22:34:00 -
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i would say a facion fitted crusader would do the trick. or a T2 if you got the skills...
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