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Dinilysia
Interregional Market Watch
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Posted - 2007.08.01 06:15:00 -
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Would it be possible to compile all the relevant parameters currently only available as columns with numbers or hidden on the Attributes tab of modules into a single real time LED displayed next to each weapon module showing a 3 color state depending on it s efficiency if fired against the currently selected target?
Did that make any sense?
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Gojyu
Gallente
Ever Flow
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.01 06:19:00 -
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Yes it did, No.
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Aridia Parker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.08.01 06:32:00 -
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Would be nice.
But then it sounds like a lag-inducing feature.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.01 06:42:00 -
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Would you like a "kill the enemy for me" button to go along with that?
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.08.01 06:43:00 -
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Not necessary. Learn to use your guns.
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Raekone
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Posted - 2007.08.01 07:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Gariuys
Would you like a "kill the enemy for me" button to go along with that?
Sorry that's already getting nerfed (NOS)
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Ephemeron
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.01 07:20:00 -
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This would be the sort of thing players would do if CCP allowed 3rd party plugins to be developped with EVE API.
I don't think it's worth asking CCP to do this feature, tho.
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defiler
Mad Hermit
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Posted - 2007.08.01 07:29:00 -
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I remember there used to be an accuracy display in the old interface, if you hovered the mouse pointer over a turret icon it would display the accuracy against the current target in the readout.
It's ancient history, but I wonder why it was removed. I'm guessing the calculation was done client side, so it shouldn't introduce any lag whatsoever...
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.08.01 07:37:00 -
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Such a feature wouldn't require any extra data to be sent to the client. It'd be fun, but the UI is already a bit crowded, and changes in the target's motion would cause constant fluctuations. Colour coding is a good idea (for the majority of users, anyway), but I think some sort of gradual variation would work better provided that it was opaque.
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Amarr
The Plebians
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Posted - 2007.08.01 07:51:00 -
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Its not real time but you can load your combat logs into quickfit and it will tell you this sort of information  |
Dinilysia
Interregional Market Watch
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Posted - 2007.08.01 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Frug
Not necessary. Learn to use your guns.
Originally by: Gariuys
Would you like a "kill the enemy for me" button to go along with that?
Yeah, theres always the wannabe gung-ho hardcase old skool entourage voicing that opinion to suggestions on improving the UI for a broader range of the player base.
Elitist bull**** coming from a few loudmouths wanting to be hardcore and making other people cower and hide their true opinions and whishes on issues like this one, thinking they are missing, or not understanding something.
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Gojyu
Gallente
Ever Flow
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.01 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dinilysia
Originally by: Frug
Not necessary. Learn to use your guns.
Originally by: Gariuys
Would you like a "kill the enemy for me" button to go along with that?
Yeah, theres always the wannabe gung-ho hardcase old skool entourage voicing that opinion to suggestions on improving the UI for a broader range of the player base.
Elitist bull**** coming from a few loudmouths wanting to be hardcore and making other people cower and hide their true opinions and whishes on issues like this one, thinking they are missing, or not understanding something.
There's always the chance that we simply disagree with you. If you've read any of my other posts, I'm very much pro-sticking it to the man, but it's not elitist to say your idea is simply poor. Frug and Gariuys brought up valid points- it's perfectly possible to spend 5 minutes in or out of game working this stuff out, it simply isn't hard, and until we're allowed custom ui's, the last thing this game needs is any more buttons
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heheheh
Singularity.
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.01 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Raekone
Originally by: Gariuys
Would you like a "kill the enemy for me" button to go along with that?
Sorry that's already getting nerfed (NOS)
hmm,
your collection of posts is begining to show how clueless you are.
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Lord MuffloN
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.08.01 09:22:00 -
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Hmmm.. Not a bad idea in my opinion, go to the suggestions forum with it.
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Dinilysia
Interregional Market Watch
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Posted - 2007.08.01 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: Gojyu
There's always the chance that we simply disagree with you...
Then just say it like that to start with.
If theres any information on this issue you want to convey, you dont do it with comments liek that and you know what I m talking about. The wide spread notion of that wise ass n00bs and ignorant people should be taught a lesson on how to behave through being slapped around with sarcasm, jokes and general bullying until they conform with whatever is expected of them is just w r o n g and should imho be moderated on these forums to a much greater extent than it is.
Some people just lack a proper upbringing and then they go and make it into forum etiquette. Sheesh!
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Samaritan Azuma
Gallente
Baptism oF Fire
VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.01 10:12:00 -
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Edited by: Samaritan Azuma on 01/08/2007 10:12:57
stfu, you acted like a jerk and you got called out.... +lol Originally by: Gojyu
Originally by: Dinilysia
Originally by: Frug
Not necessary. Learn to use your guns.
Originally by: Gariuys
Would you like a "kill the enemy for me" button to go along with that?
Yeah, theres always the wannabe gung-ho hardcase old skool entourage voicing that opinion to suggestions on improving the UI for a broader range of the player base.
Elitist bull**** coming from a few loudmouths wanting to be hardcore and making other people cower and hide their true opinions and whishes on issues like this one, thinking they are missing, or not understanding something.
There's always the chance that we simply disagree with you. If you've read any of my other posts, I'm very much pro-sticking it to the man, but it's not elitist to say your idea is simply poor. Frug and Gariuys brought up valid points- it's perfectly possible to spend 5 minutes in or out of game working this stuff out, it simply isn't hard, and until we're allowed custom ui's, the last thing this game needs is any more buttons
stfu, you acted like a jerk and you got called out.... +lol
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Mashie Saldana
Hooligans Of War
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Posted - 2007.08.01 10:38:00 -
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It would be nice to have an average DPS graph similar to the FPS graph to toggle on and off.
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Starraker
KDM Corp
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.08.01 10:42:00 -
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Overview -> Settings -> Columns
Select angular velocity.
Now keep the targets angular velocity smaller than that of your guns and in range. Now you know if your target has high resists or is moving to fast.
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Asestorian
Minmatar
Domination.
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.01 10:50:00 -
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Edited by: Asestorian on 01/08/2007 10:51:28
Personally I don't really like the idea. It's not that the idea is bad, but knowing where you guns are and aren't useful is part of the skill involved. EVE already lacks the need for a lot of real time skill in combat, and this just adds that little bit. It's not hard to learn in the end though. It starts to become second nature once you've used your guns enough.
It also creates a reliance on the tool. This is, in my opinion, a bad thing. When it comes to PvP, or a PvE situation going wrong, it is vital to know exactly how your guns work so you can attack the right targets as quickly as possible. If people start relying on this tool, they will have to check all the targets before they begin their attack, which wastes valuable time.
Beyond that, the UI is already really cluttered. The addition of the heat part of the UI already forced me to make my overview smaller (and it didn't have all the numbers on it..) and having these little lights is only going to make that worse. And in fact, far from help a new player, it would make them confused as just another part of the already very complicated UI to learn.
I suppose it's possible to take this as a "bull**** elitist attitude from someone trying to make it tough for the new guys" or something, but it really isn't. I just don't think it's necessary.
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DarthMopp
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.01 10:56:00 -
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Well as mostly there is some truth in almost every post.
1. Knowing your gear is pivotal !
2. Some indicator would be a nice gimmick...and would not effect lag in any way...as the data must be calculated anyway (therefor you get your damage indicated while firing)
3. No need to bash someone for asking to have something added to the game. One can express his disagreement much better not using "i am tah pro 1337 h4xx0r and u are just a n00b".....
4. I want an automated logfile if EvE is lagging....to disprove the "There is no lag" Statement from the GM  ..or at least i would like some intermission Music while the lag endures...or some naked chicks dancing.... :D Or Chippendales for the Girls in here (too bad for the guys who chose female Chars to play with :D )
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Geli Tetro
Vanquish Inc
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Posted - 2007.08.01 11:10:00 -
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No this gets added to my "Don't dumb eve down any further list"
We need more opportunity for player skill. Additions like this will take was little skill is left out of the game.
This ranks aside the requests for an "align to" button.
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R'olyat
Gallente
Four Rings
D-L
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Posted - 2007.08.01 11:19:00 -
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I really don't see how this would take out skill? It would just make fights a little more immersive. If anything it might help with this games incredibly steep learning curve. Not that that's a bad thing, ofc but a few things could stand to have indicators, even if they were optional.
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DarthMopp
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.01 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Geli Tetro
No this gets added to my "Don't dumb eve down any further list"
We need more opportunity for player skill. Additions like this will take was little skill is left out of the game.
This ranks aside the requests for an "align to" button.
Well at least CCP could add a skillbook for this....
perhaps the "Able-to-read-the-instruments"-Skill....LvL 8, 120 days for 1 Skillpoint....
Dont mistake my sarcasm as an insult
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