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Geonavis
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Posted - 2004.01.31 06:47:00 -
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today the CFS senate voted to add Ends (former CFS senator and president candidate) convicted for treason and added to the KOS list
Reason: Treason & financially supporting a known enemy of the alliance by paying 2 billion ISK to the pirate corperation m0o for free passage.
Directive: EVERYONE in "CFS Space" is free to attack Ends Journey & Ends Vengence without it being listed as piracy
for thoose who want to know the whole story can read the latest article at EVE-guardian:
http://www.eveguardian.com/comments.php?catid=14&id=477
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Vendris
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Posted - 2004.01.31 07:04:00 -
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Does "EVERYONE" include m0o?
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.01.31 22:09:00 -
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Soon you will see that paying us makes you gain ISk over time, we wont kill your miners, we let your haulers pass, your army wont have to fight us, so over all you can make ISK all the time without worrie and wont be loosing ships either.
See what happaned in fountain, the same thing can happen in your home now if you wont pay.
How long do you think it will take for all of you to loose more in ships, modules, implants, clones and time before it exceeds the cost of the insurance we offer you ?
Play it smart, play it safe 
Spawn of the Devil
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Geonavis
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Posted - 2004.02.01 09:39:00 -
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Play it smart, play it safe
what you want us to be carebears? i thought you didnt liked carebears??
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.02.01 17:27:00 -
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Play it smart, play it safe
what you want us to be carebears? i thought you didnt liked carebears??
My personal opinion is that there is no such thing as a real carebear, peaple play different roles and nothing wrong with not wanting to fight.
For CFS to pay us you will buy time to gather resorces that will make you stronger in the end, by not paying you can only loose resorces that will make you weaker, it is not possible to win against us, and you will end up loosing a lot more than we ask for, be it ships, ore or lost time gaining isk.
So play it safe and then come back with a vengiance.
Spawn of the Devil
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Miz Cenuij
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Posted - 2004.02.03 01:09:00 -
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Lol, He was at least using his head.
"Men are going to die..
and im going to kill them". |
Spanker
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Posted - 2004.02.03 14:05:00 -
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Edited by: Spanker on 03/02/2004 14:18:05
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it is not possible to win against us
Oh yes it is! I think. Err..
At least last time I did battle with m0o I definitely got the feeling you are just as susceptible to *****-slappings as the rest of us. Although my team was almost totally annihilated 
We'll just have to give it another go. And another.
EDIT:
About the pay-pirates-for-passage-thing, my oppinion is that by doing so you are no better than the pirates themselves. If Ends & Co pay so they can pass into the lower regions of fix to get the goodies it's the same as using m0o as a means to eliminate the competition... effectively it could even be viewed upon as hiring pirates to take care of their business - if that isn't criminal I don't know what is!
I don't mind though, this way I can have a try at both m0o and Ends. Yay.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.02.03 15:22:00 -
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Spanker, the reason no one can beat us is because we claim nothing as our home, you cant take anything away from us other than our ships and clones, we have planty of those
But we can and do take away anyones abilities to keep up their former ways if we see fit.
It was seen few weeks ago that CFS was almost annihilated bu m0o and that will happen again unless we are payd to leave the area, after all Arcadia Alliance just claimed a space so all we need now is that extra push to leave CFS pace to pay them a visit, that extra push comes in the form of ISK
Spawn of the Devil
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Raindrop
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Posted - 2004.02.03 16:57:00 -
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LOL annihilated.
1100 members.. and all annihilated.
Funny fantasies.
Raindrop
Trader of low end stuff and NPC goods. Recycler of junk.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.02.03 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: Omniwar on 03/02/2004 17:51:49
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LOL annihilated.
1100 members.. and all annihilated.
Funny fantasies.
Destroying a regional alliance does not mean killing all their ships.
It means making them unable to function in their own claimed home.
So yes, CFS was indeed almost annihilated few weeks ago when we made you unable to function in the old fix.
*edit* funny how a 1100 member alliance cant destray few pilots in their own backyard and secure their home.
And yet they act all big and mighty on the forums 
Spawn of the Devil
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Spanker
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Posted - 2004.02.03 18:08:00 -
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LOL annihilated.
1100 members.. and all annihilated.
Funny fantasies.
Ah yes but I just talking about a 'skirmish' that took place saturday evening in a2. Five of us (CFSN/EFN) were camping the kaira gate when a total of seven m0o warped/jumped in. It was a proper fight, even if we did have our a$$es handed to us - they only lost one ship and only one of our ships survived 
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Raindrop
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Posted - 2004.02.04 08:09:00 -
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Seeing as how 95% of the time the fix is open...
Raindrop
Trader of low end stuff and NPC goods. Recycler of junk.
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Ends
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Posted - 2004.02.04 18:22:00 -
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Fact is the CFS can't defend its area against ANY enemy. Also I tried to pass a bill to make any group that payed pirates KOS, the Senate turned it down. That is why I paid them, I wanted to pay them a portion of what I made and put the rest into helping the CFS arm up and fight. mOo agreed to let me fund the fighting portion of my corp with the excess from the moneys I got from mining. I can pull in about 400 mill a day mining in the fix and had to pay them 100 mill.
The people of the CFS seem to be unable to get off their butts to fight enemys, but have no problem killing friends. The CFS survives only upon the circumstances of their area protecting them from others intrestests. When we made the CFS we skipped one fundamental step. We forgot to make a military and claim the area, as such no military has ever formed that can defend itself. I am sure in name the CFS will live but the reality is that it fundamentally fails to provide its citizens with saftey, protection and a good quality of life. CFS is a punching bag for any group that would like to kill some haulers and not have to worry about having to actually fight a navy to do it.
I wrote the free space bill in too extreme a way. I learned though 2 wars that our organization structure fundmentally precludes the ability to organize a good navy. Everyone is off to do their own thing, and nearly every one of the people who preach to you about the safety of the area do so from empire space any time we are under attack.
Paying mOo was the smartest and last chance we had to build a fighting force. mOo would allow me to fund a force to fight them, essentially allowing us to fight until our boys finally got the hang of it. Further since the bill to KOS people for paying pirates had not passed I was allowed to do so. Since then however, after they KOSed me they passed that bill. The CFS seems to be able to unite to fight friends but not enemys.
Its unfortunate that nearly the entire CFS crew has changed out every few months. Each new crew rehashes the same mistakes over and over. Thinking each idea fresh when they are proven failures. There is nothing I can do for the CFS anymore, I created a home for carebears but stupidly forgot that each alliance NEEDS its killers too. The CFS has none, instead it relys on a few duty bound idealists to fund the fight from their own pocket as individuals. Even when armed they are not organized. The CFS will survive as long as no one wants to take its lands. Who knows how long that will be. I did what I did as a last ditch effort to give my people a functional navy. The people feel I should be killed for it. That is their business.
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Judicator
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Posted - 2004.02.04 19:07:00 -
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Maybe it is time for someone, maybe Ends, to organize a new alliance to claim the old Fix region. If they are such pushovers I should think getting together some combat oriented and strong corporations would do.
Let us face it, combat pilots can mine and build stuff, pure builders and industrials that abhore combat cannot fight as well.
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Spanker
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Posted - 2004.02.05 00:01:00 -
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Yes Ends, surely in these troubled times violence must precede peace. The EFN will be dispatched in aid of clearing out the fix region. Why? Mostly because it's fun doings - we don't really have any urgent business there.
And naturally, 'clearing out' also means getting rid of any suspicious pro-m0o factions we chance upon during our ventures in that region of space, should any of them be be stupid enough to stick around - which they are because said entities are extremely full of themselves, and also horse poo.
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