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Azirapheal
Amarr
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.03 09:22:00 -
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well hello there, just posting something ive only really noticed today.
about a year ago i could purchase a deimos or pretty much any ship in most losec systems - with an according hike in price due to it being in losec.
with wtz ive noticed that nearly all losec ship orders have pretty much disappeared to the nearest hisec//jita, essentially meaning that an increasingly large proportion of the playerbase cannot access stuff at all. especially with the terminally random faction police. and "bears" not being willing to warp to jump blindly into losec, where people like myself lie in wait. - at least before wtz itself it was on the approach to gates people got caught - giving them an opportunity to see who was in local and panic :)
and ofc instead of a chokegate, there would normally be a 2/3 chance they would land on an unmolested gate:)
now this has led to an alt-creep, with players training alts up to haul everythig short of battleships out of highsec, increasing strain on certain systems etc *cough*jita*cough* as it only takes 20 mins at most to get there in pretty much anything
where in days of yore it was highly profitable to produce/sell in losec (and yes i was happy paying a few extra mills for a ship nearby
any further comments?
 Originally by: CCP Wrangler
you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for.
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Archa
Caldari
Chickens with an Attitude
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Posted - 2007.08.03 09:51:00 -
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what is wtz?
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Azirapheal
Amarr
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.03 09:54:00 -
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warp to zero !_!
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for.
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Elayanith deVries
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Posted - 2007.08.03 09:59:00 -
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Hmm...thats funny until about 3 or 4 month ago I did some shiphauling for people like you. ( Even for people from your corp  )
Lately my services seem not needed anymore ?
Dont think thats because of wtz but dont know why either.
Maybe because everyone and his brother has alts nowadays ?
Best regards
Elayanith deVries
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Lord Det
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Posted - 2007.08.03 10:06:00 -
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I still produce in lowsec but I'm getting less and less out of it.
Granted, my prices are higher then the trading hubs but I'd reckon that an outlaw who can't be bothered to send an alt for the stuff would still buy it from me.
Sale volume for T1 stuff is going down since some time now. T2 stuff sells hardly at all unless my price is close to the trading hub price but then why bother risking production in lowsec?
Reasons? I don't really know... Summer time and holidays has something to do with it most likely but it started before the summer holidays. Warp to zero maybe made hauling faster so outlaws decide to still spend some time hauling the stuff themselves while before it took them too long? I don't know.
What you see is that the availability of stuff in lowsec has dropped while I see that the sale is dropping. Probably those are related, when my sale is dropping down due to lack of buyers, I'm not gonna keep producing and sell stuff in lowsec as much as before.
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2007.08.03 10:06:00 -
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I don't follow your logic of how WTZ causes goods to be only available in hubs.
It is simple, if you have something to sell then you sell it where you either a) get a sale quickly or b) get the most ISK.
The hubs provide the best approach for a).
Using a carrier to take your stuff to 0.0 provides best approach for b)
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vanBuskirk
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.08.03 10:25:00 -
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Ah diddums - pirates&griefers and those who supply them are getting the shaft. What a pity - not.
You're enough of a lowlife that you can't enter highsec and you either get overcharged or can't get stuff at all - tough. You can't do the time, don't do the crime. Grow a set and move to 0.0 or stfu.
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2007.08.03 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: vanBuskirk
Ah diddums - pirates&griefers and those who supply them are getting the shaft. What a pity - not.
You're enough of a lowlife that you can't enter highsec and you either get overcharged or can't get stuff at all - tough. You can't do the time, don't do the crime. Get a lobotomy, like mine, and move to 0.0 or stfu.
There, fixed it for you.
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Archa
Caldari
Chickens with an Attitude
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Posted - 2007.08.03 11:10:00 -
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true, there are hardly any battleships and commandships for sale in low-sec.
if there were I would buy them.
The rest i can easily transport from a hub with my alt.
What wtz has to do with it?
god knows:)
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