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Spelmyst Imladris
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Posted - 2004.01.31 14:19:00 -
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My name is Spelmyst Imladris. I am the CEO of Spelmyst Enterprises. I would like to bring to everyone's attention, the gross lack of action by the Empires. Why are the Empires allowing the public cloning of known criminals? Am I the only person who finds it disturbing?
A mon avis, Cloning should be something of a reward for a person's continued support and service to the Empire they are in. I do not think placing a bounty on someone should be easy. I think the insurance companies or the Empire itself should be the only entities able to place bounties, and use the bounty as a means of controlling cloning. If the Empire you are in feels that you are a threat to it or it's citizens and places a bounty on a person's head, then the clone should be confiscated by the Empire. This will make the bounty on their head MEAN SOMETHING. At the moment, a bounty means NOTHING. You kill him, and a tube somewhere lets him pop back out and start killing again. Never in the history of humanity would this type of behaviour have been allowed to happen. We, as a unified people, should stop the cloning of known criminals, irregardless of our nationality.
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Makkar
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Posted - 2004.01.31 14:31:00 -
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A lot of pirate hunters have negative security ratings, and some even have bounties placed on their heads by pirates.
Where do you draw the line? What defines a criminal, that can be quantified?
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.01.31 14:52:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 31/01/2004 14:52:30
Quote: My name is Spelmyst Imladris. I am the CEO of Spelmyst Enterprises. I would like to bring to everyone's attention, the gross lack of action by the Empires. Why are the Empires allowing the public cloning of known criminals? Am I the only person who finds it disturbing?
I heard a rumour that the notorious criminal Kruul is no longer allowed to buy himself clones. This has lead to a severe reduction in his escapades
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Makkar
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Posted - 2004.01.31 15:51:00 -
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Either that or he's bankrupted himself through buying clones.
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Spelmyst Imladris
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Posted - 2004.01.31 18:52:00 -
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Quote: A lot of pirate hunters have negative security ratings, and some even have bounties placed on their heads by pirates.
Where do you draw the line? What defines a criminal, that can be quantified?
It is for this reason, that the placing of bounties should not be public or easily done. The placing of a bounty should be carried out by the Empires or representatives of an Empire. It is far too easy for someone to place a bounty on a person's head this day in age. I however do not place bounties on a person's head because it's a waste of money while a person can simply clone and come back. Members of bounty hunter corps and guilds should by registered so that a bounty cannot be placed on them for doing their duty to their empire. It might even be a goo idea to have positive security ratings granted for the killing of people with bounties.
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Telmol Izibi
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Posted - 2004.02.01 01:02:00 -
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So you're saying only statists should be awarded clones? I don't think that's quite what the Jove had in mind when they granted us access to that technology.
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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.02.01 14:36:00 -
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I'm a nasty terrorist please bounty me ;)
Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio? |

Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.02.02 02:27:00 -
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damn all these hours and still no bounty

Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio? |

Burga Galti
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Posted - 2004.02.02 11:16:00 -
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Quote: Members of bounty hunter corps and guilds should by registered so that a bounty cannot be placed on them for doing their duty to their empire
What would stop pirates registering with the authorities as bounty hunters themselves? Although I, like all traders, despise pirates I can see problems in eliminating them from society. If we were simply to deny them access to clones in the empires then a corporation like Serpentis would only offer them the technology. Surely it's better to have them cloned here in the empires where rehabilitation is an option they can choose?
Tales from the EVE Cluster |

Brenden Harmett
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Posted - 2004.02.02 15:38:00 -
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Ridiculous. You start talking like this, you end up criminalizing those who perform the cloning procedure--because they will still do it. Hail the almighty isk.
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Hafthor
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Posted - 2004.02.03 11:01:00 -
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This has been discussed before... and bak then I was an avid supporter of clone restriction. Since then I have realized that the reason clones are offered to all pilots is that pilots are so very rare. The amount of training needed and the neural implants that not all are susceptible to make each pilot a valuable member of the EVE universe.
Besides, each "bad" pilot usually gains his status by killing other pilots. Why would the clone providers frown upon this? It may not be pretty but our life is controlled by the isk craving megacorporations.
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Spelmyst Imladris
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Posted - 2004.02.04 21:36:00 -
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Edited by: Spelmyst Imladris on 04/02/2004 21:37:30 I cannot believe that our fore-fathers would have condoned the continued irresponsability of cloning known criminals. Do you honestly believe that even the Jove would allowed that to happen to them? We as an Empire are not out in these fields busting our ass so some lazy pirate can come along and steal or destroy everything. Then, when we find him and put an end to the mayhem, we turn around and let the deviant go back out and do it again. How many times are you going to let someone slap you in the face and get away with it? Cloning a pirate is just that, a slap the face. We all might as well become pirates. They steal from us, we steal from them, until everything is in ruin. As for the difficulty of finding good pilots. Who cares about a pirate, just because he's a good pilot? The hunters will still kill him, and his evil little "clone" will come out and do the EXACT same thing AGAIN. The Rulers of our Empires must be idiots to allow this to continue. By stopping the cloning of criminals, as I stated before, we make the BOUNTY valuable. We make it worth while. Why not just give the bounty hunter the money. Thats all we're doing. "ok, here's money. Go kill him again." Are we REALLY that stupid?
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.02.05 13:52:00 -
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Perhaps our fore fathers considered cloning a basic human right. Perhaps they were against the death penalty. Perhaps they were idiots.
Pirates have rights too you know.
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Spelmyst Imladris
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Posted - 2004.02.13 04:22:00 -
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Ha! Pirates give up their rights. Thats why they have bad standings and often bounties.
I pirates are the slimy stuff under the green crap at the bottom of an old tire filled with mosquito infested rain water for a year. 99% are also greedy, lazy, and attack people who can't fight back because they're too weak to test their strength against real opponents. Also known as gate camping wimps. Why else would they attack non-combat or unarmed vessels?
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valkir
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Posted - 2004.02.15 11:01:00 -
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Edited by: valkir on 15/02/2004 11:02:51 maby there should be cloneing stations in 0.0 space you know you want to kill the rabbit repetedly for that juicy bounty Error 7.0b1 - The item could not be deleted because it was missing The world will end in five minutes Please log out.
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Hafthor
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Posted - 2004.02.16 03:25:00 -
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What the hell do our forefathers have to do with this?
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.02.16 05:38:00 -
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Quote: Why else would they attack non-combat or unarmed vessels?
The hope of risk free $$$ 
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