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Xantia Gedur House of Gedur	Posted - 2007.08.04 12:56:00 - [1] It looks like the burning crusade expansion but with a different lick of paint. Wrath of the Lich King expansion Soon you will be able to grind to Lv 80 which will take about the same agonizing time as it took you to grind from 0 to 70! You will be grinding until you DIE...of boredom or the next (now yearly) expansion comes out which will - and i'm just poking in the dark here...be another grindfest to Lv 90! That's right another new island to quest in aka 'collect 40 of this you idiot', 'kill 20 of that you moron', 'now do it all again for a cookie'. Even more pointless reputations to grind in areas that soon become deadzones, all this while your character makes 0 impact or footprint in the game world. Now this isn't just a bash wow thread because EVE's PVE missions are just as - if not more tedious as wows quests and need a lot more work. As much as I see through 'the loop' theres 9 million people that are quite content with it so good luck to them. Although i'd like to see wow evolve into something more than repetitive grinds for loot, rep or levels, its not gonna happen. So.. /dance Go get those epix, gotta catch em all! lol
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.08.04 14:02:00 - [2] ZOMG, changeable hairstyles! ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION \| Forum Whiners - Unite!
Jtbenns Gallente QUANT Corp. Southern Connection	Posted - 2007.08.04 14:07:00 - [3] eve > wow shame on you for even getting this information --------------------------------- RWREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Miss Anthropy School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.08.04 15:31:00 - [4] Originally by: Jtbenns eve > wow shame on you for even getting this information You'd be surprised how many EVE players play WoW too. They're different games and they cater to different markets. How do you logically compare the content of a space sim with a fantasy role playing game? Incidentally I don't play WoW because I find it boring. I do have a blast at it every 4-6 months though when I'm bored of EVE. Hell is other people's ringtones.
Reiisha Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.08.04 15:48:00 - [5] I pre-ordered. EVE History Wiki
Kain Bodom Gallente HOMELESS. Band of Bums	Posted - 2007.08.04 15:55:00 - [6] private servers ftw.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.08.04 17:13:00 - [7] you forgot to mention the oine thing that might be expanding on the game with. catipuls and building that can be destroyed. If wow is good for one thing it's the PvP battegrounds, because they are more than simple fight each other in the face things. but they are only fun is you are max level. and thus are useless. Because I don't want to grind. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP Quote: CCP posted a new dev blog, they are going to bring Nos in line with.....well....logic
Jayna Keria	Posted - 2007.08.04 17:51:00 - [8] Originally by: MotherMoon If wow is good for one thing it's the PvP battegrounds, because they are more than simple fight each other in the face things. Your kidding right? If you think eve pvp is fighting each other in the face than you're doing it wrong. You have your tracking, your speed, your health, cap, ecm strength, sensor strength, target range, sig radius, gun sig radius and such to think about. Sure you fit them on before you leave for action while in WoW your abilities are all laid out infront of you but frankly WoW is just pressing buttons in the right order, where eve is pressing buttons in the right order...and praying (Which is all the more funner). Yes I play WoW, yes I've played it for a while, Yes I think it's pvp is the worst piece of crap that came from a developers arse. But I must admit the ability to just enter pvp when you want is nice..but it frankly just lacks the danger.
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.04 20:39:00 - [9] Originally by: Miss Anthropy Originally by: Jtbenns eve > wow shame on you for even getting this information You'd be surprised how many EVE players play WoW too. They're different games and they cater to different markets. How do you logically compare the content of a space sim with a fantasy role playing game? Incidentally I don't play WoW because I find it boring. I do have a blast at it every 4-6 months though when I'm bored of EVE. Correct. I'm a Eve and LOTRO man myself. That gives me a PVE game and a RVR game. Theres tons of people out there who play mutliple mmo's and have multiple accounts for each which to me which is insane the amount of money they spend on this. I did the math on Team Wizzy once from dark age (one guy running 7 characters from 7 pcs at the same time) and he dished out $740 a year to play dark age. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Jtbenns Gallente QUANT Corp. Southern Connection	Posted - 2007.08.04 21:11:00 - [10] Originally by: Miss Anthropy Originally by: Jtbenns eve > wow shame on you for even getting this information You'd be surprised how many EVE players play WoW too. They're different games and they cater to different markets. How do you logically compare the content of a space sim with a fantasy role playing game? Incidentally I don't play WoW because I find it boring. I do have a blast at it every 4-6 months though when I'm bored of EVE. yea yea i kno, i did wow on a private server, didnt take much taste to it. --------------------------------- RWREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
The Pointless Gallente Plastic Toys	Posted - 2007.08.04 23:13:00 - [11] This seems an oddly timed announcement. A little too close to the release of a certain other game's expansion... ----------------------------------------------- "Breaking News! The Pointless hates GIFs!"
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente Escorts of Eve	Posted - 2007.08.05 00:26:00 - [12] Lvl 80?? I got bored with WoW before right around lvl 47. I couldn't make it to 80. ------
Gojyu Gallente Ever Flow FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.05 05:14:00 - [13] Originally by: The Pointless This seems an oddly timed announcement. A little too close to the release of a certain other game's expansion... What game? I'm actually curious, don't know of any other mmorpg expansions on the horizon.
Tenerhaddi Dark Skyes	Posted - 2007.08.05 06:59:00 - [14] Armada Online rules :)
The Pointless Gallente Plastic Toys	Posted - 2007.08.05 12:27:00 - [15] Originally by: Gojyu Originally by: The Pointless This seems an oddly timed announcement. A little too close to the release of a certain other game's expansion... What game? I'm actually curious, don't know of any other mmorpg expansions on the horizon. Guild Wars: Eye of the North, which throws in some wintry areas along with forest fires (which someone elsewhere said also features in this WoW expansion.) - in fact, GW's login and char select screen just got a nice little update (Goodbye North African style, hello snowy mountains.) And yes. I am aware that both WoW and GW are different beasts, but... ----------------------------------------------- "Breaking News! The Pointless hates GIFs!"
Benglada Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.05 20:39:00 - [16] Originally by: Kain Bodom Edited by: Kain Bodom on 04/08/2007 16:33:59 private servers ftw. edit -- just watched it.. wow blizzard could not afford to do a true cgi movie for it.. that vid sucked large i have seen player made vids 10x better. They musta farmed that out.lol quote for truth on priv servers lol --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends. Sig nerfz0r - maximum allowed siz0r is 24000 bytz0r. - Devil ([email protected]) Sig By Ortos
oDDiTy V2 Epic.	Posted - 2007.08.05 20:46:00 - [17] Originally by: The Pointless Originally by: Gojyu Originally by: The Pointless This seems an oddly timed announcement. A little too close to the release of a certain other game's expansion... What game? I'm actually curious, don't know of any other mmorpg expansions on the horizon. Guild Wars: Eye of the North, which throws in some wintry areas along with forest fires (which someone elsewhere said also features in this WoW expansion.) - in fact, GW's login and char select screen just got a nice little update (Goodbye North African style, hello snowy mountains.) And yes. I am aware that both WoW and GW are different beasts, but... Well tbh, most people have known for ages that Northrend would be the next major expansion in WoW (following the Frozen Throne stuff in Warcraft III). It seems like GW ripped the idea off of Warcraft if anything. Dunno though, I don't work for either company :p
Fellet Amarr Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.08.05 21:12:00 - [18] Played wow for quite some time , but like someone said it really is a big grind game (mainly the rep grind wich is ***** ******) . It does have good parts but it gets overshaduwed by the bad parts ( atleast on my side) I have to say i had my fun with the game for quite some time , but EvE is just alot deeper and on a bigger scale wich attracted me more on the long run.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.08.05 21:25:00 - [19] Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Lvl 80?? I got bored with WoW before right around lvl 47. I couldn't make it to 80. I do believe that's the exact level I ejected too. My crafty ways with the auction hall and fishing could only sustain me for so long. You couldn't really PvP with any success with run off the mill gear anyways. Also Known As
The Pointless Gallente Plastic Toys	Posted - 2007.08.05 21:43:00 - [20] Originally by: oDDiTy V2 Originally by: The Pointless Originally by: Gojyu Originally by: The Pointless This seems an oddly timed announcement. A little too close to the release of a certain other game's expansion... What game? I'm actually curious, don't know of any other mmorpg expansions on the horizon. Guild Wars: Eye of the North, which throws in some wintry areas along with forest fires (which someone elsewhere said also features in this WoW expansion.) - in fact, GW's login and char select screen just got a nice little update (Goodbye North African style, hello snowy mountains.) And yes. I am aware that both WoW and GW are different beasts, but... Well tbh, most people have known for ages that Northrend would be the next major expansion in WoW (following the Frozen Throne stuff in Warcraft III). It seems like GW ripped the idea off of Warcraft if anything. Dunno though, I don't work for either company :p I dunno either. Besides, it was some nutjob that loves himself that made the initial claim. ----------------------------------------------- "Breaking News! The Pointless hates GIFs!"
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.08.05 22:11:00 - [21] Little known fact: Most orcs and goblins have been ripped off the Warhammer, almost entirely. This goes for all Warcraft games and all visuals post DnD.
Coconut Joe VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.08.05 23:29:00 - [22] I got bored of wow on level 6
Sgt Blade An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.08.06 03:44:00 - [23] withough even clicking on the link or the post im goin to assum a new grind to lvl 80??? and then some other usless crap Eve > WoW Hypnotic Pelvic Thrusting Level 5
oDDiTy V2 Epic.	Posted - 2007.08.06 04:15:00 - [24] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Little known fact: Most orcs and goblins have been ripped off the Warhammer, almost entirely. This goes for all Warcraft games and all visuals post DnD. Yup. <3 Warhammer... I only ever collected a WH40K army though... I sucked at painting (they're sitting in my closet now... been meaning to get em out and give another shot at it sometime when I've got some free time haha).
Volscani	Posted - 2007.08.06 04:25:00 - [25] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Little known fact: Most orcs and goblins have been ripped off the Warhammer, almost entirely. This goes for all Warcraft games and all visuals post DnD. When you consider how much GW initially ripped off or borrowed from a plethora of sources it seems to me to be a little odd when people complain wow ripped off GW. (I love GW by the way, I collect 3 40k armies and run an inquisitor group)
Belloc Slunv Amarr Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.08.06 04:33:00 - [26] NEW DANCES!!!
Gojyu Gallente Ever Flow FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.06 14:52:00 - [27] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Little known fact: Most orcs and goblins have been ripped off the Warhammer, almost entirely. This goes for all Warcraft games and all visuals post DnD. You're not actually ill-informed enough to believe gw invented orcs and goblins are you? Because that would be sad. If you're instead talking about wow's implementation of orcs and goblins, you'd also be wrong unfortunately, as they're presented in a completely different light. Only correlation is that they're both green
oDDiTy V2 Epic.	Posted - 2007.08.06 17:58:00 - [28] Originally by: Gojyu Originally by: Derovius Vaden Little known fact: Most orcs and goblins have been ripped off the Warhammer, almost entirely. This goes for all Warcraft games and all visuals post DnD. You're not actually ill-informed enough to believe gw invented orcs and goblins are you? Because that would be sad. If you're instead talking about wow's implementation of orcs and goblins, you'd also be wrong unfortunately, as they're presented in a completely different light. Only correlation is that they're both green The Orc and Goblin were the creation of Tolkien's imagination, where they not? Thats what I've always thought.
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.06 18:56:00 - [29] Originally by: oDDiTy V2 Originally by: Gojyu Originally by: Derovius Vaden Little known fact: Most orcs and goblins have been ripped off the Warhammer, almost entirely. This goes for all Warcraft games and all visuals post DnD. You're not actually ill-informed enough to believe gw invented orcs and goblins are you? Because that would be sad. If you're instead talking about wow's implementation of orcs and goblins, you'd also be wrong unfortunately, as they're presented in a completely different light. Only correlation is that they're both green The Orc and Goblin were the creation of Tolkien's imagination, where they not? Thats what I've always thought. Well I always thought that Orc's and Goblins were created back in the dark ages along with vampires, werewolves, ghosts, and many other things. Ghosts may have been sooner. We just continue to retell those stories from generation to generation and ours just marketed on it. Chances are the real orcs and goblins were most likely deformed men and women who were outcasted by civilization. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.06 21:47:00 - [30] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: oDDiTy V2 Originally by: Gojyu Originally by: Derovius Vaden Little known fact: Most orcs and goblins have been ripped off the Warhammer, almost entirely. This goes for all Warcraft games and all visuals post DnD. You're not actually ill-informed enough to believe gw invented orcs and goblins are you? Because that would be sad. If you're instead talking about wow's implementation of orcs and goblins, you'd also be wrong unfortunately, as they're presented in a completely different light. Only correlation is that they're both green The Orc and Goblin were the creation of Tolkien's imagination, where they not? Thats what I've always thought. Well I always thought that Orc's and Goblins were created back in the dark ages along with vampires, werewolves, ghosts, and many other things. Ghosts may have been sooner. We just continue to retell those stories from generation to generation and ours just marketed on it. Chances are the real orcs and goblins were most likely deformed men and women who were outcasted by civilization. Tolkien pretty much set the standard. As far as I'm aware, "Orc" was entirely a Tolkien invention- he took the word from the Old English "Orc" for "demon". What we now consider as an "Orc" (muscely aggressive human, with funny coloured skin) is entirely derived from Tolkien. "Goblin", as a word, has been in use a lot longer (since the middle ages, at least) to refer to a sort of mischievous spirit. The irony here is that Tolkien only used the word explicitly in his Middle Earth books as a synonym for Orcs, used by the Shire Hobbits as a quaint colloquialism, so as to make them seem more isolated from the other worldly adventurers. The current usage (as a smaller Orc) seems to be a hybrid of Tolkien's use of the the term as a synonym for Orcs and the classic representation of them being a small spirit. Dungeons & Dragons may be able to claim some credit here, as one of the first to popularise this type of "little Orc" Goblin. Warhammer came hot on it's heals with it's "green Orcs and Goblins", which acts as the basis for a lot of later fiction (including Warcraft, which was, essentially and unashamedly, "Warhammer RTS"). --------

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