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dor amwar Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.08.06 13:46:00 - [1] what would happen if you go to log in 1 day and the little msg thingy said basically: 'the law is on strike. no police for 24 hours in empire, we go have coffee and donuts'
Pan Crastus	Posted - 2007.08.06 13:47:00 - [2] Empire carebears would log off and not play 1 day and the eve-o forums would be full of complaints. this is a free post provided to you by a member of the EVE community.
Del369 Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.06 13:48:00 - [3] They had a stress test on the test server last year where Concord "went for a coffee" was a blast :) Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways.
dor amwar Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.08.06 13:50:00 - [4] Originally by: Pan Crastus Empire carebears would log off and not play 1 day and this is a problem?
Tao Han Synthetic Frontiers	Posted - 2007.08.06 13:52:00 - [5] Originally by: dor amwar Originally by: Pan Crastus Empire carebears would log off and not play 1 day and this is a problem? I wouldnt have anyone to force pvp upon ------ Turret: -a small tower extending above a building gun enclosure: a self-contained weapons -platform housing guns and capable of rotation Turret people, not turrent!!
Saint Luka Minmatar The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2007.08.06 14:00:00 - [6] All carebears would logoffski and empire would be full of 0.0 war alliances :p
Psychological Challenge	Posted - 2007.08.06 14:01:00 - [7] Only if the next day they decided to Clean up 0.0 and brought out an appropriate amount of forces to actually do the job. Not this mission tankable crap. They could go on strike today and come back with a vengance tomorrow.
Exlegion KnightRaven Research KnightRaven Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.06 14:02:00 - [8] Edited by: Exlegion on 06/08/2007 14:02:43 Think of low sec and 0.0 as high sec, but with Concord on strike... Indefinitely. And there's your answer. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru
Whineroy	Posted - 2007.08.06 14:04:00 - [9] Originally by: Pan Crastus Empire carebears would log off and not play 1 day and the eve-o forums would be full of complaints. And after such massive log-out, Eve forum server would collapse for good due to massive amount of whines-disguised-as-opinions from all the ganker nerds... "Waah ! CCP ! I have to face targets that can actually fight back ! Unfair ! NERF !"
dor amwar Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.08.06 14:04:00 - [10] Originally by: Exlegion Edited by: Exlegion on 06/08/2007 14:02:43 Think of low sec and 0.0 as high sec, but with Concord on strike... Indefinitely. And there's your answer. wrong! many more targets ... and not everybody reads the log in msg
Judas Lonestar Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.06 14:28:00 - [11] Wonder how long before CCP fails due to falling player base and inability to continue to finance their operations. The funny thing is that the gankers whine as much as the carebears. The carebears whine because they get blobbed, the gankers whine because the carebears have Concord to assist them. Fact is Eve as a whole meets virtually ALL players desires. Those who dont want to PVP can live relatively killmail free in high sec, those who want to blow stuff up have vast amounts of low sec and 0.0 areas in which to do so. Whats ironic is carebears dont whine they cant go into low sec, they know it. But the gankers sure cry like little girls that they cant PVP whenever they want in high sec.... Who really is the loudest whiners? Hmmm......
Brutor Shaun	Posted - 2007.08.06 14:32:00 - [12] Originally by: Judas Lonestar Fact is Eve as a whole meets virtually ALL players desires. Those who dont want to PVP can live relatively killmail free in high sec, those who want to blow stuff up have vast amounts of low sec and 0.0 areas in which to do so. Whats ironic is carebears dont whine they cant go into low sec, they know it. But the gankers sure cry like little girls that they cant PVP whenever they want in high sec.... Who really is the loudest whiners? Hmmm...... QFT. One voice of sanity and sense in an otherwise pointless whiney thread. Bookmark Idea - My skills
Sir JoJo Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.08.06 14:39:00 - [13] Originally by: Del369 They had a stress test on the test server last year where Concord "went for a coffee" was a blast :) its was a huge Blast battle all over , for each jump there was a new fight ;) and we killed a dev in a titan ;) if they would do that to empire for 24 hours well 23 ;) it would be a huge pod zone ehh and loads of fun ;)
Rooker Lysian Enterprises	Posted - 2007.08.06 15:42:00 - [14] Didn't they do this once on TQ a long time ago? I heard about something like that.
Sazkyen	Posted - 2007.08.06 16:23:00 - [15] Shuttle stockpiles would suddenly show a sharp drop.
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2007.08.06 16:27:00 - [16] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 06/08/2007 16:27:48 Originally by: dor amwar Originally by: Pan Crastus Empire carebears would log off and not play 1 day and this is a problem? Love them or hate them: The carebears mines the minerals which where needed to build the ships you and me PvP in. They are just as neccesary to the PvPers, as you as a PvPer are for the carebears; in what I mean you either kill ships or get killed. I think its called a symbiosis. Originally by: Splagada you're on eve-o, just go for blunt insults and random crap, please!
Daelorn	Posted - 2007.08.06 16:34:00 - [17] Originally by: Rooker Didn't they do this once on TQ a long time ago? I heard about something like that. It was during RMR beta I believe?
J Ryan Caldari Under Heavy Fire	Posted - 2007.08.06 17:03:00 - [18] Originally by: Daelorn Originally by: Rooker Didn't they do this once on TQ a long time ago? I heard about something like that. It was during RMR beta I believe? Its only ever been done on TQ at the end of the Beta, when everything was being restarted for the official launch. Other than that, its only ever been on SISI.
Some Caldari Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.08.06 17:48:00 - [19] Originally by: dor amwar what would happen if you go to log in 1 day and the little msg thingy said basically: 'the law is on strike. no police for 24 hours in empire, we go have coffee and donuts' I'd have a lot of fun, it'd cost me dearly and would put my name in the victim spot of several hundred kill mails but it'd be funny none the less. ------------ I'm a guy with a female character get over it, and for god's sake stop jerking off. It's creepy.
midge Mo'yb R.U.S.T. Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.06 18:14:00 - [20] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 06/08/2007 16:27:48 Originally by: dor amwar Originally by: Pan Crastus Empire carebears would log off and not play 1 day and this is a problem? Love them or hate them: The carebears mines the minerals which where needed to build the ships you and me PvP in. They are just as neccesary to the PvPers, as you as a PvPer are for the carebears; in what I mean you either kill ships or get killed. I think its called a symbiosis. false.. you cant get all the ore required to build ships in empire you have to get stuff from lowsec and deep 0.0 too :p
Alpine 69 Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.08.06 18:26:00 - [21] This should become a monthly event on singularity Sweet love for the ones that mod my sig <3 From her? You're on. -Rauth
Curzon Dax Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.06 18:28:00 - [22] Originally by: dor amwar Originally by: Pan Crastus Empire carebears would log off and not play 1 day and this is a problem? Given what percentage of players do what...that means 90% of Eve wouldn't log in for a day. =p
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2007.08.06 18:30:00 - [23] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 06/08/2007 18:31:57 Originally by: midge Mo'yb Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 06/08/2007 16:27:48 Originally by: dor amwar Originally by: Pan Crastus Empire carebears would log off and not play 1 day and this is a problem? Love them or hate them: The carebears mines the minerals which where needed to build the ships you and me PvP in. They are just as neccesary to the PvPers, as you as a PvPer are for the carebears; in what I mean you either kill ships or get killed. I think its called a symbiosis. false.. you cant get all the ore required to build ships in empire you have to get stuff from lowsec and deep 0.0 too :p True enough, but i know for sure that many alliances are A.) buying either their ships in Empire - not having the posibillity or capability to run large scale productions in deep space to build all their ship needs, or B.) they buy low end ore in empire and haul it down to support their production. Also, I know that some empire Carebears are mining in Low sec, that way getting some more difficult to get ore, plus dont forget you would need carebears in deep space too, to get your fix. PvP is just as much needed as we need the carebears. That is why we have a working player run echonomy. Originally by: Splagada you're on eve-o, just go for blunt insults and random crap, please!
Leilani Solaris Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.08.06 18:50:00 - [24] Was sooo much fun when they did that on the test server. Wish they'd do it more often just as a bit of fun and a break from the norm. Outbreak Killboard
dor amwar Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.08.07 00:10:00 - [25] Originally by: Judas Lonestar Wonder how long before CCP fails due to falling player base and inability to continue to finance their operations. The funny thing is that the gankers whine as much as the carebears. The carebears whine because they get blobbed, the gankers whine because the carebears have Concord to assist them. Fact is Eve as a whole meets virtually ALL players desires. Those who dont want to PVP can live relatively killmail free in high sec, those who want to blow stuff up have vast amounts of low sec and 0.0 areas in which to do so. Whats ironic is carebears dont whine they cant go into low sec, they know it. But the gankers sure cry like little girls that they cant PVP whenever they want in high sec.... Who really is the loudest whiners? Hmmm...... got loads of targets where i'm at, no probs. just an idea for a bit of fun, break things up a bit ya know.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.08.07 00:42:00 - [26] I remember that day almost a year ago when concord stepped out for donuts... I was in my first stabber. Now I'm not going to incriminate myself, but that was the best 5 minutes in Eve I've ever had Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.07 00:50:00 - [27] Heh, I always knew you weren't a carebear Surfin. --- Grismar.net
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration	Posted - 2007.08.07 01:02:00 - [28] I would jump into my lowsec clone, grab my rax and enjoy. After that popped, I'd mess around with frigate and cruiser setups until I ran out of ISK. -------------------------------------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.08.07 01:42:00 - [29] Originally by: cal nereus Heh, I always knew you weren't a carebear Surfin. Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
Arron S Gallente Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.08.07 01:53:00 - [30] You can make isk carebearing in empire, WTF?>
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.08.07 02:24:00 - [31] Originally by: Arron S You can make isk carebearing in empire, WTF?> Tis where the stupid people live Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.08.07 03:08:00 - [32] Pirates would come to empire, play docking games with each other, mission ***** to get sec status back, go shopping. Carebears would stay docked, or like most carebears undock with no idea whats happening and then whiiiiiine. 0.0 alliances would actually be able to have decent fights as the empire huggers leave the server resources alone. Awesome.
Fester Addams Minmatar	Posted - 2007.08.07 03:50:00 - [33] Originally by: dor amwar what would happen if you go to log in 1 day and the little msg thingy said basically: 'the law is on strike. no police for 24 hours in empire, we go have coffee and donuts' Probably the same thing as 0.0 players would do if one day there was a message reading: 'The big law push. All systems are 1.0 for 24 hours, coffee and donuts for all'
KHEN New Horizons	Posted - 2007.08.07 11:54:00 - [34] Edited by: KHEN on 07/08/2007 11:54:25 Originally by: dor amwar what would happen if you go to log in 1 day and the little msg thingy said basically: 'the law is on strike. no police for 24 hours in empire, we go have coffee and donuts' 1) I would really like to see that happen 2) I would not go to work 3) That would be hilarious madness 4) That would hurt my wallet a lot ! /me likes anarchy
Draem Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.08.07 11:59:00 - [35] Originally by: Fester Addams Probably the same thing as 0.0 players would do if one day there was a message reading: 'The big law push. All systems are 1.0 for 24 hours, coffee and donuts for all' Be instapopped on undock, right? I wish I had an alt.
Fifth Horseman	Posted - 2007.08.07 13:11:00 - [36] China's GDP would drop by 0.05% Cats and Dogs. Living Together. Mass hysteria.
Rilder Caldari THC LTD	Posted - 2007.08.07 13:45:00 - [37] It'd be interesting, but it'd have to be done for more like 2-3 months to be an effective experiment, and starting areas would have to be kept highsec... What'd we see would prolly be something like this: 1st weeks: General Whining and such, hardcore anti-pvpers would quit. Following Weeks: Minor acceptance, Remaining carebears would move to the "Starting areas" if left highsec, but would be stripped of ore and have no missions, general consensus be, get out of the starting areas or you won't enjoy this game. Weeks after that, areas around Highsec "Safe points" would become market hubs, gates around would be constantly camped, People would start gravitating farther away, colonizing 0.0 and such areas. Further weeks, Major Alliances would see population boom as they take in the "No longer safe" miners, promising them protection as long as they help mine for there alliances, High sec mission runners would gravitate to 0.0 also, finding most good "Old Highsec" mission spots camped. What I expect to happen, would be ore prices would sky-rocket, due to macrominers being-free2kill and most legiment miners would end up in large Alliances/Corps in the hopes of protection. This would probably mean that larger alliances/ones that activly recruit these "High sec reffugees" would be able to field more capital ships due to more ore coming in. No doubt the EvE population would decrease but it would really seperate the men from the gallente... errr boys. Visit my blog =)http://rilderslog.blogspot.com/
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.08.07 14:03:00 - [38] Edited by: Ares Lightfeather on 07/08/2007 14:07:09 Originally by: Rilder It'd be interesting, but it'd have to be done for more like 2-3 months to be an effective experiment, and starting areas would have to be kept highsec... What'd we see would prolly be something like this: 1st weeks: General Whining and such, hardcore anti-pvpers would quit. Following Weeks: Minor acceptance, Remaining carebears would move to the "Starting areas" if left highsec, but would be stripped of ore and have no missions, general consensus be, get out of the starting areas or you won't enjoy this game. Weeks after that, areas around Highsec "Safe points" would become market hubs, gates around would be constantly camped, People would start gravitating farther away, colonizing 0.0 and such areas. Further weeks, Major Alliances would see population boom as they take in the "No longer safe" miners, promising them protection as long as they help mine for there alliances, High sec mission runners would gravitate to 0.0 also, finding most good "Old Highsec" mission spots camped. What I expect to happen, would be ore prices would sky-rocket, due to macrominers being-free2kill and most legiment miners would end up in large Alliances/Corps in the hopes of protection. This would probably mean that larger alliances/ones that activly recruit these "High sec reffugees" would be able to field more capital ships due to more ore coming in. No doubt the EvE population would decrease but it would really seperate the men from the gallente... errr boys. Hum, what I think that would be seen is wildly different. 1st week : population of the server drops by 75% as players drop subscriptions. Traders quit because they don't want to hire escort to move veldspar, most players from empire quit because high risk ain't the reason they played. The major change to missioning / production / trading that followed forced to change their habits to something that those players do not find fun. 2nd week and 3rd week : pirates run out of people that jumped in the game without reading the patch notes and get killed easily. They start killing each other. Games becomes lag free. CCP fires 50% of their staff due to perceived future financing problems. Players continue to whine because : titans and alliances destroy and conquer the ancient low sec and slaughters the pirates there. Traders just stop playing since traveling doesn't make profits anymore. Population again drop by 50%. 4 - 8 weeks : CCP begins selling servers. The next upgrade has been postponed by 6 month, due to heavy restructuration of the game infrastructure and people getting fired for economical reasons at CCP makes the moral there low... Population continues to drop as noobs freshly out of the few high sec system get ganked just as they get out of them. They leave, because there is no way to make money mining veldspar, and no mission above lvl 1 to do, and the game is just boring. The game slowly dies out since the only people that can make it into the game are alts / people brought in by friends already in alliances. There is few if any updates anymore. -- Siggie ! Come back here ! -- Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract
Nichalus Dreadstar	Posted - 2007.08.07 14:10:00 - [39] I'm all for it. But to be equal, Concord should have a massive enforcement/bounty raid for a day on all persons with -1 Sec Standing. Then we would hear the hard core PvPers whine for a day, logoffski and not play, and all the carebears would be free to go into 0.0 and have some fun. It's only fair.....
Swift Wind 6rasshopper Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.07 18:47:00 - [40] Edited by: Swift Wind on 07/08/2007 18:48:45 IMO they should do both :) but not all the way, and tie it into the back story. Pick an NPC area of 0.0 as kind of an ''open house'' so those who fear null sec, can actually go see what is is about, and at the same time the pirates are only restricted from a region (use a simmilar sys in empire for the ''free fire'' zone in empire). something like: "Due to preperation for a major bounty operation against the Thukker Tribe in The Great Wildlands, CONCORD has had to pull it's forces out of The Forge for the next 24 hours, after this time The Great Wildlands will be patroled and will have an active sec rating of 1.0 until the criminals are aprehended. Operations are expected to last for 24 hours." Would add a bit of a change. Anywhere, Anytime.
Clerence Thomas Gallente Black Lotus Heavy Industries Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.08.07 19:00:00 - [41] Originally by: Arron S You can make isk carebearing in empire, WTF?> Hard to believe, but it's strangely usually a lot more profitable then combat... Then again there's that occasional module that's worth way too much.. Heh, my corp has a turnover of isk in the billions per week on our empire side carebearing stuff - pays for the capital ships and stuff we have in 0... -- "There are over 500 million fire arms in worldwide circulation. That is one fire arm for every twelve people on the planet. The only question is... How do we arm the other eleven?"
Fester Addams Minmatar	Posted - 2007.08.07 20:46:00 - [42] Originally by: Draem Originally by: Fester Addams Probably the same thing as 0.0 players would do if one day there was a message reading: 'The big law push. All systems are 1.0 for 24 hours, coffee and donuts for all' Be instapopped on undock, right? ... yes, ie exactly what would happen if all of EvE went 0.0 for 24 hrs.
3ll3 Gallente Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.08.07 20:53:00 - [43] If this hapopened it'd be Chaos, Mnnn I would have fun going about killing people left and right....Welll try to any way Verus Amare Vinceres Omnis
daPing	Posted - 2007.08.07 21:49:00 - [44] Originally by: Daelorn Originally by: Rooker Didn't they do this once on TQ a long time ago? I heard about something like that. It was during RMR beta I believe? Yup, they announced a special hour on SISI (which had just been upgraded to the old TQ servers when they first installed the IBM Blades). They rigged the market so every station had thousands of every items, and gave everyone a billion isk. It was, as others have said, good fun. Basically a great way to test out different setups without any real risk. Think I went thru 6 Wolfs and 4 Rutures :D
Kellzz	Posted - 2007.08.07 22:50:00 - [45] maybe not 24 hours, but 12 hours. 12 hours of 0.0 would be win! but to balance it out, the other 12 would be everything is 1.0 and for people who dont pay attention to anything, when you click UNDOCK you are first warned if you want to do that given the lawlessness
dor amwar Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.08.07 23:03:00 - [46] all the people that are mining and producing should be happy, think of the increased sells they would get. if they want to stay at home or just run around in shuttles and watch, make shuttles invincible with no cargo space or mass for the day. i bet more than a few of those in shuttles would actually run back and grab a ship after a little bit
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.08.07 23:35:00 - [47] Alright, there needs to be a part 2 for this one... after the day of all 0.0 it should have a message pop up saying "Ok, after teh donut fuel, concord is back in force even in 0.0!" Then all the miners run into 0.0 to get the precious ore down there... the game waits till 0.0 is full of miners then pops up a message stating "Just kidding " at which point the little blue dot representing the system security goes red and then the jedis will be feeling something Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.07 23:55:00 - [48] It is nice when things are unpredictable and chaotic. --- Grismar.net
dor amwar Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.08.08 08:05:00 - [49] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Alright, there needs to be a part 2 for this one... after the day of all 0.0 it should have a message pop up saying "Ok, after teh donut fuel, concord is back in force even in 0.0!" Then all the miners run into 0.0 to get the precious ore down there... the game waits till 0.0 is full of miners then pops up a message stating "Just kidding " at which point the little blue dot representing the system security goes red and then the jedis will be feeling something deal, when does it start

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