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Captain Nevermore
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Posted - 2007.08.07 19:07:00 -
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Hi, I have two characters. One is a combatant, other is a miner. I'm a low key solo type player and for my combatant this is no problem so far, just running through agent missions up to lvl 3 in .3 space.
Problem is with my miner. I'm killed out of hand by other players as soon as I'm in .4 or lower space. No interaction at all, just NBSI I guess. So my question is: Am I doing something to bring this on myself, or is that just the way Eve is and a waste of time being a solo type miner going for the big money?
TY |
WhitePhantom
Gallente
Edenists
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Posted - 2007.08.07 19:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Captain Nevermore
Hi, I have two characters. One is a combatant, other is a miner. I'm a low key solo type player and for my combatant this is no problem so far, just running through agent missions up to lvl 3 in .3 space.
Problem is with my miner. I'm killed out of hand by other players as soon as I'm in .4 or lower space. No interaction at all, just NBSI I guess. So my question is: Am I doing something to bring this on myself, or is that just the way Eve is and a waste of time being a solo type miner going for the big money?
TY
Your trying to mine in low security space alone?
Do you see anything wrong with your statement?
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Captain Nevermore
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Posted - 2007.08.07 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: WhitePhantom
Your trying to mine in low security space alone?
Do you see anything wrong with your statement?
While I'm sure your response is terribly clever, I think its obvious I'm a noob looking for an answer.
ty |
Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2007.08.07 19:19:00 -
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Money from mining has been ruined by rapid devaluation of minerals and minerals from refining mission loot. The risk is simply not worth the reward any more unless you're in a safeish 0.0 area or have arkanor to mine.
There are a number of things that you can do to stay safer in lowsec and it does depend which area you mine in but really missionrunning is more profitable than mining, hands down.
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Lady Trade
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Posted - 2007.08.07 19:19:00 -
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Mining in lowsec is high-risk and should be avoided if you can't defend yourself. Mine in 0.5 and higher. The same goes for missions and anything else really.. you arn't really safe in highsec so in lowsec you simply have to expect to die.  |
Malcanis
High4Life
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.07 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Nevermore
Originally by: WhitePhantom
Your trying to mine in low security space alone?
Do you see anything wrong with your statement?
While I'm sure your response is terribly clever, I think its obvious I'm a noob looking for an answer.
ty
Basically, a miner is by definition in an unarmed industrial type ship. Lo-sec is where kill-crazy pirates hang out.
Solo mining is best done in hi-sec, or in well-gaurded alliance 0.0 space.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Captain Nevermore
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Posted - 2007.08.07 19:20:00 -
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Thank you |
Baaldor
Caldari
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Nevermore
Hi, I have two characters. One is a combatant, other is a miner. I'm a low key solo type player and for my combatant this is no problem so far, just running through agent missions up to lvl 3 in .3 space.
Problem is with my miner. I'm killed out of hand by other players as soon as I'm in .4 or lower space. No interaction at all, just NBSI I guess. So my question is: Am I doing something to bring this on myself, or is that just the way Eve is and a waste of time being a solo type miner going for the big money?
TY
Why don't you have your combat pilot scout for your miner?
And as far as interaction before scattering your ashes through space..uh I would think that would be saved for later. I don't usually have much to talk about before I pop someone. Or if comes to ransoming the interaction is fairly limited xxxISk in xxtime or boom.
But no you are not wasting your time. And you are not bringing this upon your self. It just feels like it sometimes. You have more balls than most that sit and play station sim or hug a hi sec assroids. I salute you for that.
Just please just think about this. Its not the skills that will save you ship all of the time. Its the practical and yes sometimes painful lessons you learn. Hang in there. 
THE PRIVIOUS VIEWS AND STATEMENTS DO NOT REPRESENT AND OR SUPPORTED BY THE MANY VOICES IN MY HEAD. |
Jennai
The Silent Rage
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.07 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Trade
Mining in lowsec is high-risk and should be avoided if you can't defend yourself. Mine in 0.5 and higher. The same goes for missions and anything else really.. you arn't really safe in highsec so in lowsec you simply have to expect to die.
highsec ore is worth more anyway
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Aeden
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.07 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 07/08/2007 19:38:38
My advice is to find a mining corp, where both your characters can count on a few people trying to do the same as you.
Being "casual" (same as solo to me, because if you don't want to play for 2 weeks, nobody will look at you) is not a problem for some corp. There's a lot of corp that don't want to be involved in political and war of 0.0.
You also could try the FTZ : it's not safe (0.0) and it's not free (50m per month per corp) but you'll never found cheeper for a corp in 0.0 :)
Our FTZ rules (and rulez) :)
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Christari Zuborov
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.07 20:27:00 -
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-Contact the individuals who own the space
-set up contract to allow you to mine in their space
-profit
Grease some wheels big guy, no one refuses money thrown at them!
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Heretic Monk
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Posted - 2007.08.07 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: Heretic Monk on 07/08/2007 21:12:29
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Captain Nevermore
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Posted - 2007.08.07 21:15:00 -
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Ahh, didn't know 0.0 space was player owned (so much to know) Ok, I'll get my 4th barge, do the leg work, make contacts and contracts and get back to work.
Ty all
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Malcanis
High4Life
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.07 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Nevermore
Ahh, didn't know 0.0 space was player owned (so much to know) Ok, I'll get my 4th barge, do the leg work, make contacts and contracts and get back to work.
Ty all
Player claimed might be a better description. Much of 0.0 is almost completely empty. As a general rule, as you get nearer to the empire access systems and station systems there is a much greater chance of encountering other pilots. As a miner, you will definitely need station access.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.07 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Nevermore
Ahh, didn't know 0.0 space was player owned (so much to know) Ok, I'll get my 4th barge, do the leg work, make contacts and contracts and get back to work.
Ty all
Captain, you should know that several alliances permit neutrals to use their space - the CVA alliance that operates in the Domain and Providence regions is one such alliance. Best of luck though! 
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.08.07 21:51:00 -
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How can you know what NBSI means but not have any idea about the other stuff you're asking?
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VicturusTeSaluto
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Posted - 2007.08.07 21:53:00 -
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You need to mine in a really inactive area of low sec, and be ready to use your combat character to defend the miner. Or be ready to run.
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Captain Nevermore
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Posted - 2007.08.07 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Frug
How can you know what NBSI means but not have any idea about the other stuff you're asking?
Yes you're right. I'm sorry, I lied. Obviously my knowledge of one thing means I know everything. |
Baaldor
Caldari
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Nevermore
Originally by: Frug
How can you know what NBSI means but not have any idea about the other stuff you're asking?
Yes you're right. I'm sorry, I lied. Obviously my knowledge of one thing means I know everything.
Hey convo me in game. I have a couple pockets I have run across that is pretty tame.
THE PRIVIOUS VIEWS AND STATEMENTS DO NOT REPRESENT AND OR SUPPORTED BY THE MANY VOICES IN MY HEAD. |
Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.08.07 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Baaldor
Originally by: Captain Nevermore
Originally by: Frug
How can you know what NBSI means but not have any idea about the other stuff you're asking?
Yes you're right. I'm sorry, I lied. Obviously my knowledge of one thing means I know everything.
Hey convo me in game. I have a couple pockets I have run across that is pretty tame.
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Baaldor
Caldari
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Baaldor
Originally by: Captain Nevermore
Originally by: Frug
How can you know what NBSI means but not have any idea about the other stuff you're asking?
Yes you're right. I'm sorry, I lied. Obviously my knowledge of one thing means I know everything.
Hey convo me in game. I have a couple pockets I have run across that is pretty tame.
Hehehe, thank you for that,that really lifted my day. But no I don't need to go through all that to get a kill...especially a young one.
I just remembered some places in my "mining days" that were pretty nice and cozy.
Plus...I am a little busy right now...have you not read the funny pages lately?
THE PRIVIOUS VIEWS AND STATEMENTS DO NOT REPRESENT AND OR SUPPORTED BY THE MANY VOICES IN MY HEAD. |
tikinish
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Posted - 2007.08.07 23:13:00 -
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well eve is made for only gang type players if you get below 0.4.
actually you will have more succes soloing in 0.0 then in 0.1-0.4 if you can get just a few jumps into 0.0 :)
topic worth reading
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=569893&page=1sp idea[/ |
IHurricane
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.07 23:29:00 -
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Edited by: IHurricane on 07/08/2007 23:30:45
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Captain Nevermore
Originally by: WhitePhantom
Your trying to mine in low security space alone?
Do you see anything wrong with your statement?
While I'm sure your response is terribly clever, I think its obvious I'm a noob looking for an answer.
ty
I love the fact that people think 0.0 mining ops is perfectly safe. They'll think that untill a cloacking stabbed smortbombing BS comes their way.
Basically, a miner is by definition in an unarmed industrial type ship. Lo-sec is where kill-crazy pirates hang out.
Solo mining is best done in hi-sec, or in well-gaurded alliance 0.0 space.
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IHurricane
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.07 23:30:00 -
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Edited by: IHurricane on 07/08/2007 23:30:21
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Stefx
Gallente
Moons of Pluto
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Posted - 2007.08.07 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Nevermore
Hi, I have two characters. One is a combatant, other is a miner. I'm a low key solo type player and for my combatant this is no problem so far, just running through agent missions up to lvl 3 in .3 space.
Problem is with my miner. I'm killed out of hand by other players as soon as I'm in .4 or lower space. No interaction at all, just NBSI I guess. So my question is: Am I doing something to bring this on myself, or is that just the way Eve is and a waste of time being a solo type miner going for the big money?
TY
Do you have Halada's complete miner guide?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=434899
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The Snowman
Gallente
Four Rings
D-L
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Posted - 2007.08.08 09:31:00 -
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Yes, Mining in low security.. or doing ANYTHING in low security SOLO is a bad idea unless your very experienced and very skilled.
Its a multi-player game not a solo game.
Even in High security you can acheive so much more with more players.
Make friends, have fun, dont die. Even as a noob you must surly be able to understand this =]
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Nur Vadenn
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.08 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: The Snowman
Yes, Mining in low security.. or doing ANYTHING in low security SOLO is a bad idea unless your very experienced and very skilled.
Its a multi-player game not a solo game.
Even in High security you can acheive so much more with more players.
Make friends, have fun, dont die. Even as a noob you must surly be able to understand this =]
For a multi-player game with a dedicated core of people who continue to preach that multi-player is the way to go, EVE has an astounding ability to foster distrust and paranoia. Never have I been in a game where so many expound on the virtues of corporation membership and cooperation while in the background hundreds are being stabbed in the back every day for trying to get involved in the multi-player lifestyle.
My advice after my short time here is to practice and hone your solo skills and to never trust anyone EVER! Every agreement can and most likely will be broken. Everyone in this game seems to have an agenda, and an overwhelming number of those agendas involve either exploiting you in some way or simply causing you harm. This seems especially true for corporations and fork tongued recruiters. Watch your back!
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Marcus Xavier
Minmatar
Xavier Institute for Higher Learning
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Posted - 2007.08.08 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Nur Vadenn
Everyone in this game seems to have an agenda, and an overwhelming number of those agendas involve either exploiting you in some way or simply causing you harm. This seems especially true for corporations and fork tongued recruiters. Watch your back!
That's not true! Some folks have been successful recruiting their family members. Of course, I did need to agree to clean out the garage ...
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Zeknichov
Amarr
Life. Universe. Everything.
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.08 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Nur Vadenn
Originally by: The Snowman
Everyone in this game seems to have an agenda, and an overwhelming number of those agendas involve either exploiting you in some way or simply causing you harm. This seems especially true for corporations and fork tongued recruiters. Watch your back!
Ahh which is why I love EVE so much. It's like real life but easier and without the real life risk.
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Nur Vadenn
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.08 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: Zeknichov
Originally by: Nur Vadenn
Everyone in this game seems to have an agenda, and an overwhelming number of those agendas involve either exploiting you in some way or simply causing you harm. This seems especially true for corporations and fork tongued recruiters. Watch your back!
Ahh which is why I love EVE so much. It's like real life but easier and without the real life risk.
Hmm, one might point out that in real life trust is more forthcoming and easier to earn. Though I try to stay away from real life comparisons.
Whether you like the distrust and paranoia or not, the fact remains that it permeates the game environment. I might also suggest that it detracts from the game because it is ever-present and sometimes very intrusive.
Again to the original poster, watch your back!
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