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The S1lenc3er
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Posted - 2007.08.08 22:09:00 -
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Any ideas?
I was thinking in rank order
Eos
Slepnir
Astarte
Absolution
Nighthawk
(not including the gang ones)
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NoNah
Unseen University
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Posted - 2007.08.08 22:09:00 -
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I'd say that list is pretty much accurate.
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The S1lenc3er
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Posted - 2007.08.08 22:11:00 -
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woot
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Tomsudy
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.08 22:14:00 -
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Yeah i agree
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The S1lenc3er
XTINCTION
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Posted - 2007.08.08 22:26:00 -
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Edited by: The S1lenc3er on 08/08/2007 22:26:21
however i have just been informed that infact the abolution can quite easily kill a slepnir in an even sp battle with "normal" fittings
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente
Cheers Restaurant and Bar
Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.08.08 22:26:00 -
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 Originally by: The S1lenc3er
(not including the gang ones)
Except that you did. #1 on the list is the Gallente fleet command ship.  You didn't notice you had 5 ships listed?
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The S1lenc3er
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Posted - 2007.08.08 22:28:00 -
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of course i did lol, but since when can you class the eos as a gang support ship
The description means nothing
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Kathryn Sakai
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Posted - 2007.08.08 22:30:00 -
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Gallante win again what a surprise
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The S1lenc3er
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Posted - 2007.08.08 22:31:00 -
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well not exactly cause if they fought a....no but if you fitted a.....a screw it they win again
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Leikeze Mrotserif
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.08 22:52:00 -
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Eos deserves to take a high ranking, however the Absolution should be number one imo.
Coming from a decent eos pilot imo, the abso is the only command to really throw me off. It's mix of tank and/or damage just blows the competition away.
Granted its all dependent on setup.. but to those that have fought a well tuned absolution, you know exactly what i mean.
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Wayward Hooligan
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.08 23:15:00 -
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Sleipnir will hand an Eos its ass if pilotted properly.
It won't even be a fight. It'll just be a dirty beating.
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DeadRow
Magnificent Beavers
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.08.08 23:36:00 -
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Sleip > Eos tbh, more like, imo:
Sleip
Eos
Astarte
Abso
NH
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Red Harvest
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Posted - 2007.08.09 00:42:00 -
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My personal ranking would be
Astarte
Eos
Absolution
Sleipnir
- Astarte is my personal favorit because it got the necessary 4 mids and an awesome amount of firepower.
- Eos as close second because i prefer dealing my damage directly to the target and not by using drones.
- Absolution only has 3 mids which is a bit of a pain but nevertheless a good ship for solo work.
The other command ships are great too especially the sleipnir but really not so much for solo action without nerfing their tanks with tackling modules.
Not so sure about the "new" version of the damnation though, could be fun if i had the t2 HAMs but i guess time will tell.
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Ishmael Hansen
No Quarter.
Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2007.08.09 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: The S1lenc3er
Any ideas?
I was thinking in rank order
Eos
Slepnir
Astarte
Absolution
Nighthawk
(not including the gang ones)
Well, I don't fly an Absolution so I dunno where it fits. About all the others, I'd say the eos/astarte cos they can have a mean tank while the sleip have to sacrifice its slots for tackling. Tho I love the claymore also, as long as I don't find any high kin damage dealer like a bthron. I left out the caldari ones cos as we know caldari don't solo pvp
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Yowin
Mortis Angelus
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.08.09 01:48:00 -
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Sleipnir.
If you move solo arround this blob's universe, you need SPEED.
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.08.09 02:07:00 -
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This thread has been done, you fail.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.09 02:56:00 -
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Sleip then Eos.
Nano trumps all.
Originally by: Lucian Sulla
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NoNah
Unseen University
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Posted - 2007.08.09 03:04:00 -
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You won't be able to make appoint a dominator of the verse ship here. Nor anywhere else. The Eos can eat the sleip, the abso can eat the eos, the sleip can eat the abso, and the other way around. But on overall - thats how I would arrange it.
Obviously the sleip has an extra advantage of its speed when looking at 0.0.
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.08.09 03:27:00 -
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How does a sleip beat an Eos?
Seriously.
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Vim
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2007.08.09 04:06:00 -
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Its all about that module 'web' in your midslot... the sleip wont let you activate it, unless you get the drop on him. Thus it can do jolly circles and eights all around you, making you eat your boosters till your out and then you'll be in abit of trouble...
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Riho
Magnificent Beavers
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.08.09 06:43:00 -
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after nos nerf :)
absolution
sleipnir
astarte
eos
sleip will pwn a eos if its speed fitted... cause eos dont get drone dmg bonus... the heavy drones wount do **** all to break the tank on eos.
speed fitted sleip can do 4km/s whit good fittings (thats like 2x od and 1x nano +2x gyro in lows).
mid i use are: xl booster, invul, warp disruptor, mwd, med inj.
at 20km the guns and nos from eos dont work and drones do crap dmg that can be tanked really easy. barrage = win :)
my alt is going to be flying absolutions soon, cant wait :) freaking awesome ship :)
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Cpt Cosmic
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Posted - 2007.08.09 07:05:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 09/08/2007 07:10:21
Except that the EOS can tank the sleipnirs' dmg at those range pretty well and sleipnir have to slow down to actually hit the EOS which leads to several problems:
EOS can pick web drones with it which are faster than sleipnir without running a MWD, to avoid those sleipnir have to kill them or MWD around which results in craptastic hit chance and dps loss.
Then the EOS have the last resort called ECM drones which have a good chance to jam a sleipnir, resulting in warp away or big dmg loss.
as you see the EOS isnt as much helpless as some of you describe.
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Lore Isander
Caldari
Paisti
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Posted - 2007.08.09 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Cosmic
Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 09/08/2007 07:10:21
Except that the EOS can tank the sleipnirs' dmg at those range pretty well and sleipnir have to slow down to actually hit the EOS which leads to several problems:
EOS can pick web drones with it which are faster than sleipnir without running a MWD, to avoid those sleipnir have to kill them or MWD around which results in craptastic hit chance and dps loss.
Then the EOS have the last resort called ECM drones which have a good chance to jam a sleipnir, resulting in warp away or big dmg loss.
as you see the EOS isnt as much helpless as some of you describe.
You are a noob if you orbit with your MWD on in a Sleipnir.
And Eos drone bay is rather limited, carrying set of heavy drones and web drones is not a good idea, and web drones aint that effective either.
My Sleipnir will outrun you even while under the effect of web drones.
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Riho
Magnificent Beavers
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.08.09 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Cosmic
Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 09/08/2007 07:10:21
Except that the EOS can tank the sleipnirs' dmg at those range pretty well and sleipnir have to slow down to actually hit the EOS which leads to several problems:
EOS can pick web drones with it which are faster than sleipnir without running a MWD, to avoid those sleipnir have to kill them or MWD around which results in craptastic hit chance and dps loss.
Then the EOS have the last resort called ECM drones which have a good chance to jam a sleipnir, resulting in warp away or big dmg loss.
as you see the EOS isnt as much helpless as some of you describe.
yes.. all good on paper.. but noone uses those kind of drones much at all :P mybe ecm drones.. but i havent seen ANYONE use web drones on a drone ship for the last 2 years i have played.
and the eos will tank sleip aslong as he has cap charges :)
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Lore Isander
Caldari
Paisti
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Posted - 2007.08.09 07:38:00 -
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And the drones of the Eos are damn weak, only reason I dont like to fly the thing myself.
Sleipnir will almost instapop all his drones.
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DeadRow
Magnificent Beavers
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.08.09 07:38:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Cosmic
Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 09/08/2007 07:10:21
Except that the EOS can tank the sleipnirs' dmg at those range pretty well and sleipnir have to slow down to actually hit the EOS which leads to several problems:
EOS can pick web drones with it which are faster than sleipnir without running a MWD, to avoid those sleipnir have to kill them or MWD around which results in craptastic hit chance and dps loss.
Then the EOS have the last resort called ECM drones which have a good chance to jam a sleipnir, resulting in warp away or big dmg loss.
as you see the EOS isnt as much helpless as some of you describe.
Thats all theory, most Eos pilots have CS4 so that means 250m^3 of drone bay. 5*Web drones = 125m^3 and then you can either have 5 Ogre IIs, or 5 heavy ECM or 10 Medium ECM 10 Medium combat and 5 light combat.
Now I personally have 10 Medium ECM, just in case but without 5 Heavy combat drones my dmg in is minimal. So how do you plan on breaking the sleips tank?..
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Cpt Cosmic
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Posted - 2007.08.09 07:45:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 09/08/2007 07:53:05
Originally by: Riho
yes.. all good on paper.. but noone uses those kind of drones much at all :P mybe ecm drones.. but i havent seen ANYONE use web drones on a drone ship for the last 2 years i have played.
and the eos will tank sleip aslong as he has cap charges :)
I use them sometimes 
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You are a noob if you orbit with your MWD on in a Sleipnir.
And Eos drone bay is rather limited, carrying set of heavy drones and web drones is not a good idea, and web drones aint that effective either.
My Sleipnir will outrun you even while under the effect of web drones.
no one said I would orbit with MWD on in sleipnir and you dont have to have a full set of web drones. 3 will be enough to reduce the sleipnirs' speed to 28% of your normal which is enough to get him close and I wouldn't say 300m¦ drone bay is limited.
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thats all theory, most Eos pilots have CS4 so that means 250m^3 of drone bay. 5*Web drones = 125m^3 and then you can either have 5 Ogre IIs, or 5 heavy ECM or 10 Medium ECM 10 Medium combat and 5 light combat.
Now I personally have 10 Medium ECM, just in case but without 5 Heavy combat drones my dmg in is minimal. So how do you plan on breaking the sleips tank?..
I know that, but from my experience 3 web drones will be enough in most cases.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.09 07:51:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 09/08/2007 07:52:26
The whole can sleipnir beat eos is moot. If eos can tank for more than 1minute. It's not really likely you'll get caught somewhere where you can't jump/dock. That's also why it's hard to rank CS
For pure solo:
sleip (and much better than others due to speed/istab)
eos
astarte
abso
rest suck
For smaller gangs they are pretty much equal, eos becomes more useless due to dronedps delay, but it can fit 3 gang links easily.
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Wayward Hooligan
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.09 08:10:00 -
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Assuming Eos and Sleipnir met at a safe somewhere.
Sleip will keep Eos in the middle of Autocannon falloff and disruptor range and just shoot the Eos all ******* day while the Eos spends cap charges tanking and does next to no damage because the Sleip is at the extreme range of blaster falloff.
If the Eos MWD towards the Sleip the Sleip uses superior based speed and mass to keep away.
If Eos launches any drones Sleip stops shooting Eos and locks up drones. Webs drones 1 at a time and kills them. Since Sleip is atleast 15km away from Eos the Eos cannot scoop redeploy.
After a long ******* time and a lot of ammo wasted by the Sleip the Eos will be out of cap charges and probably drones too.
Sleip changes tactics, goes to edge of web range and loads Hail M. Shoots the **** out of cap dead Eos.
Will this really happen very often? No because it takes too much ******* time but 1-vs-1 the Sleip is a better ship hands down.
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heheheh
Singularity.
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.09 08:18:00 -
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Define "Best"
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