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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.02.02 09:12:00 -
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Edited by: Jazz Bo on 02/02/2004 09:17:41
I would like to bring to your attention that Nicholas Marshal, the former director of Incom, now member of the Coalition Navy, is a corp thief.
One month ago he left Incom without a word to anyone, taking almost all of our corp funds with him. When we questioned him, he had this to say:
"Nothing has been stolen. As Director, co-founder and majority shareholder of Incom, I withdrew funds totalling ?? million (this was not all the funds contained within the account). These funds are to be utilised in a top secret investment initiative; a scheme that involves other persons within the FIX/Khanid region. Secrecy of the exact details was a condition of participation.
The money will be returned, with a very handsome interest/bonus payment added to the total. As majority shareholder of Incom, why would I pursue any other course of action ?
I have merely joined the Coalition Navy in order to fight the marauding pirates in the FIX region."
Yes, that sounds believable, doesn't it? Obviously nothing has been heard from him nor the money since, and has not replied to my messages.
Now our patience is at an end, and I have only one thing to say to you Nicholas: "KOS".
PS: I would like to add that he is also an Enemy of the Eve Community. After the theft when we asked him what he thought he was doing, he deleted a 100+ page "Eve Online" thread at the forums we frequented. That thread was a great source of information, and more than two dozen people (myself included) had joined Eve because of it.
 Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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RagnarH
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Posted - 2004.02.02 09:35:00 -
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Nicholas, I know you are pretty active on the forums, so plz answear this post :D and tell us your side of this story
This char is perm banned on forums :S |
Zond 3
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Posted - 2004.02.02 10:19:00 -
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Weve given him the benefit of the doubt for long enough. Nicholas Marshal is scum and needs to be taken out. |
qrac
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Posted - 2004.02.02 10:34:00 -
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Edited by: Jazz Bo on 02/02/2004 09:17:41
I would like to bring to your attention that Nicholas Marshal, the former director of Incom, now member of the Coalition Navy, is a corp thief.
One month ago he left Incom without a word to anyone, taking almost all of our corp funds with him. When we questioned him, he had this to say:
"Nothing has been stolen. As Director, co-founder and majority shareholder of Incom, I withdrew funds totalling ?? million (this was not all the funds contained within the account). These funds are to be utilised in a top secret investment initiative; a scheme that involves other persons within the FIX/Khanid region. Secrecy of the exact details was a condition of participation.
The money will be returned, with a very handsome interest/bonus payment added to the total. As majority shareholder of Incom, why would I pursue any other course of action ?
I have merely joined the Coalition Navy in order to fight the marauding pirates in the FIX region."
Yes, that sounds believable, doesn't it? Obviously nothing has been heard from him nor the money since, and has not replied to my messages.
Now our patience is at an end, and I have only one thing to say to you Nicholas: "KOS".
PS: I would like to add that he is also an Enemy of the Eve Community. After the theft when we asked him what he thought he was doing, he deleted a 100+ page "Eve Online" thread at the forums we frequented. That thread was a great source of information, and more than two dozen people (myself included) had joined Eve because of it.
yes he is a thief and he's been a thief as long as i remember seeing him.
he used to be in 4c-b7x (outer ring) several months ago stealing npc loot from ppl farming. he also made money there because of the bounty bug that existed back then by just being there in a noobship.
i think i've got his corpse sitting in one of my hangars 
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Cassius Acterus
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Posted - 2004.02.02 11:43:00 -
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Show us a picture!
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Lord Armagon
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Posted - 2004.02.02 12:10:00 -
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He will be added to our KOS list (the main of this alt)
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.02.02 12:58:00 -
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He will be added to our KOS list (the main of this alt)
Excellent
He is probably located in or near Gehi, in the Khanid region, so keep your eyes open if you happen to be in those parts.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.02.02 13:05:00 -
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The opening post should point out that I was founder and still am majority shareholder of Incom.
I will refrain from answering these allegations any further, as I do not believe that such spurious, slanderous and outright fictional attacks should be discussed at forum level.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.02 13:10:00 -
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Ok well convo or eve mail me in game to discuss these allegations.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Machiavelli7
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Posted - 2004.02.02 13:11:00 -
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I will refrain from answering these allegations any further, as I do not believe that such spurious, slanderous and outright fictional attacks should be discussed at forum level.
It's not slanderous, it's potentially libellous (in an EVE RP kinda way ).
However, the allegations have been published and should be refuted in this thread, if you don't want your wider reputation in EVE to be tarnished.
Just my 2 penneth'
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Vortigern
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Posted - 2004.02.02 13:16:00 -
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Interesting.....
Firstly proof please in the form of a screenshot showing that these funds were withdrawn and what was left....
Next if these allegations are true, then it goes to show that some CEO's are incredibly arrogant. Yes he may have founded the corp, yes he may be the majority shareholder (not that shares work anyway), but why in Eve should he think that corp assets are his. If he feels he has this right to take all this ISK discuss it with your members and see what they think.
No wonder Rat corps are prospering, with 'honest' players being ripped off by corps left right and chelsea!
It is about time we had some naming and shaming of legitimate corps that abuse their members!
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Theodin
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Posted - 2004.02.02 13:19:00 -
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Don't bend to their petty moans Nicholas, you have nothing to prove to me so why prove anything to them!!!
Where are the hero's and the brave, we live in a galaxy of fools and cowards |
Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.02.02 13:30:00 -
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Edited by: Jazz Bo on 02/02/2004 13:32:29
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The opening post should point out that I was founder and still am majority shareholder of Incom.
I will refrain from answering these allegations any further, as I do not believe that such spurious, slanderous and outright fictional attacks should be discussed at forum level.
Could you please tell me how it's possible for you to be a "majority shareholder" in Incom, when you are no longer even a member of said corporation?
Unless you are referring to you alt Isla, who is indeed still a member, but only so you can deposit the Isk you taken straight into the corp wallet, instead of having to send it to one of us.
Since you haven't logged on as Isla in the past weeks, you probably haven't noticed that we stripped her of her powers as a director. So you can't hire yourself back anymore.
It seems we HAVE to discuss this matter here since you have failed to answer me in-game.
Originally by: DB Preacher
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.02.02 13:35:00 -
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Edited by: Jazz Bo on 02/02/2004 13:36:40
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Interesting.....
Firstly proof please in the form of a screenshot showing that these funds were withdrawn and what was left....
If that is absolutely necessary, I will. (for obvious reasons I didn't want to do that)
But that is a direct quote I posted (except I deleted the amount stolen), in which he admits he took the money, although he doesn't think the "stole" it.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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tauz0r
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Posted - 2004.02.02 13:35:00 -
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Placed on KOS of all the major factions :)
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.02.02 13:39:00 -
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It's also interesting that although he never fails to mention that he is the "co-founder" of Incom, he didn't bother telling the other founder, our then CEO (resigned two days ago) that he was leaving the corp and taking that money.
Nicholas is a nice, considerate chap, isn't he?
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Sam Becket
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Posted - 2004.02.02 16:01:00 -
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I get the feeling he's upset a few people.
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2004.02.02 16:55:00 -
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Corporate Thieves always have an excuse, but their actions speak louder then their explanations. Theft is theft, no matter what the circumstances. Just add another scum to you KOS list and spread the word. Before you know it, they will get what they deserve. This guy wonĘt even defend himself. He must know that he did wrong. Founder or not, if he had any honor and he wanted out, he should have discussed it before his departure/theft.
If I was you guys, I would make sure that he didnĘt plant any other alts in your corp. with director access. If he was able to grant access and accept applications, he might have planted a mole to steal again. Review all members and access for your own protection.
The truth will set you free
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.02.02 19:51:00 -
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If I was you guys, I would make sure that he didnĘt plant any other alts in your corp. with director access. If he was able to grant access and accept applications, he might have planted a mole to steal again. Review all members and access for your own protection.
Thanks for reminding me.
I know all three of Nicholas' characters (he uses them all to post in the forums, sometimes using all three in the same thread ), but who knows, he may have another account.
Yesterday I noticed there was a member whom I had never seen online, and whose application had been approved my none other than Nicholas.
Originally by: DB Preacher
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KrapYl
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Posted - 2004.02.02 21:21:00 -
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Edited by: KrapYl on 02/02/2004 21:42:09
could you give us these names of the last 2 characters ? :D
Edit: Err, i mean, Nicholas Marshal & Isla & ?
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.02.02 22:21:00 -
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My other characters are Isla and Ranandor, but neither has been used in about 5 months.
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Kaaii
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Posted - 2004.02.02 22:35:00 -
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My other characters are Isla and Ranandor, but neither has been used in about 5 months.
appearently, once was enough...
"..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, then stand with One thousand sheep.."
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.02 22:46:00 -
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Nicholas Marshal, you are a fitting example of your corp and alliance as a whole. I hope to see you soon.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.02.02 23:29:00 -
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My other characters are Isla and Ranandor, but neither has been used in about 5 months.
Thank you Nicholas.
I might add that Ranandor was originally a pirate, created and used for one purpose only: to harass miners in the Reblier system so that there would be more Jaspet and Kernite left for dear old Nicholas.
Can you say "Coalition Navy", Nicholas? How about "Pirate Alt"? Good, now how about... "hypocrisy"?
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Meta Orred
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Posted - 2004.02.03 07:53:00 -
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The opening post should point out that I was founder and still am majority shareholder of Incom.
I will refrain from answering these allegations any further, as I do not believe that such spurious, slanderous and outright fictional attacks should be discussed at forum level.
My interpretation of slander is that the accusation had to be untrue.
As a former corp mate of Nicholas Marshall I can vouch for his theft. I can't work out his childish logic for believing that he deserved the isk anyway. He hardly contributed to the fund when he was a corp member. He would also snatch any items left for communal use.
If everyone played Eve in the same spirit as you Nicholas, what would be the point? |
DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.02.03 08:41:00 -
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The fact that Nicolas Marshal is or isnt a director doesn't make it right to take assets without the other directors aproving this.
Infact they claim now that his decision to take isk or items was not justified. The "KOS" is not for nothing then.
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jason hill
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Posted - 2004.02.03 09:05:00 -
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so nicolas marshal is off the incom xmas card list then ??
"THE HUMAN SHIELD" |
Meta Orred
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Posted - 2004.02.03 10:48:00 -
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so nicolas marshal is off the incom xmas card list then ??
Not only INCOM, but that of all the corps that he has attacked using his pirate alt: Ranandor.
He also deleted a 100 page thread used by many many as a valuable resource on another site, that had tempted at least 20 people (including myself), to join Eve. When we asked him why he would stole the isk and deleted the thread, he told us he was 'role playing away'.
Why would you want to play the role of a ****head? |
Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.02.03 10:50:00 -
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Edited by: Nicholas Marshal on 03/02/2004 10:53:14
You guys ***** me up. All of this is such pure, unadulterated rubbish. As I said, I'm not going to descend to your level and argue pointlessly (and endlessly).
Really, this thread probably fulfills the criteria for being locked now I think.
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Meta Orred
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Posted - 2004.02.03 11:04:00 -
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Edited by: Nicholas Marshal on 03/02/2004 10:53:14
You guys ***** me up. All of this is such pure, unadulterated rubbish. As I said, I'm not going to descend to your level and argue pointlessly (and endlessly).
Really, this thread probably fulfills the criteria for being locked now I think.
All of this thread is true. Especially my last post. The thread in question was on Eurogamer.net and there are new threads discussing exactly what you have just called 'rubbish'.
It's not a conspiracy against Nicholas Marshall folks, it's all true. |
Sam Becket
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Posted - 2004.02.03 11:07:00 -
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If what you did is true, then and you're comfortable with the actions you took, why not explain to others on this forum the reasons for you actions?
Perhaps u can convince people, through your reasoning and logic, that you are not worthy of a KOS order?
Anyway, u need not worry about me, as I'm a noob. But I'd be worried that people may have got the wrong impression and if i were you, I'd ask for this thread to be locked.
Oh, you have 
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.02.03 11:13:00 -
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Edited by: Nicholas Marshal on 03/02/2004 10:53:14
You guys ***** me up. All of this is such pure, unadulterated rubbish. As I said, I'm not going to descend to your level and argue pointlessly (and endlessly).
Really, this thread probably fulfills the criteria for being locked now I think.
Would get you away easy with your theft yeah.
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Velios
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Posted - 2004.02.03 11:25:00 -
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Oh dear oh dear, you see the saddest thing here is not the theft of a poxy 20 mill, but since then Incom (the corp he took the isk from and left) have drifted apart. Many inside Incom including myself see his action as the main catalyst for the break up of Incom as a group - that's the saddest part.
Luckily those Incom that still want to play EVE and try to get some form or retribution are uniting under the M.Corp banner where we will make it our sole ambition to get that 20M back, either as a direct donation from Nicholas, or in the form of his battleship scrap metal parts.
What do you say Nich?
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qrac
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Posted - 2004.02.03 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: qrac on 03/02/2004 11:54:49
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Sam Becket
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Posted - 2004.02.03 11:53:00 -
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That was indeed a shame,Velios.
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Sam Becket
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Posted - 2004.02.03 12:22:00 -
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I don't get that qrac - could you rephrase perhaps?
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qrac
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Posted - 2004.02.03 13:25:00 -
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I don't get that qrac - could you rephrase perhaps?
it was a chatlog from what an alt wrote in local. i'm not sure if it was somebody from forsaken empire who was talking trash or if it was nicholas's alt so i decided to delete it.
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Sam Becket
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Posted - 2004.02.03 14:09:00 -
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Ah, thanks for that.
So you think NM may have deleted one of his alts and created a new one, or perhaps started a whole new account?
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Meta Orred
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Posted - 2004.02.03 14:14:00 -
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He's posted on this forum recently as Ranandor and Isla still exists AFAIK.
I don't think he will get a new account, I think he honestly believes he has done nothing underhand.
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Velios
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Posted - 2004.02.03 14:14:00 -
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Hey Sam, were you once an Incom member? |
Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.02.03 16:59:00 -
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Meta, If I was to disclose your crimes on this forum, people would be stunned.
I, however, will refrain from doing so.
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Meta Orred
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Posted - 2004.02.03 17:06:00 -
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Nicholas, do not try and make this a personal slanging match in order to get this thread locked.
Instead please respond to Jazz Bo's comments in his first post.
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Mirimon
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Posted - 2004.02.03 17:12:00 -
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Yea, seriously Nicholas, you have been TOTALLY avoiding answering anything about the theft, and if you see it in your eyes as false...say something about it. But you are really not helping your case by completely trying to avoid it, just makes it more obvious.
"Then I guess I have no choice...but to kill you all." |
LocalHost
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Posted - 2004.02.03 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: LocalHost on 03/02/2004 17:30:37
Ok. He's not coming to my birthday party.
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Sam Becket
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Posted - 2004.02.03 18:25:00 -
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Velios, no, I wasn't part of Incom. I do however frequent the EG forums and saw the corp splinter after said events - which was a shame.
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Velios
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Posted - 2004.02.03 18:59:00 -
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Yeah Sam, remember how he deleted the 100+ page thread on eve when mingster questioned why he did a moonlight flit with the cash? That EG thread was good for drawing new players into eve - lets hope the new one will someday grow to the same proportions. |
Ariel Acterus
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Posted - 2004.02.03 19:44:00 -
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That thread was the reason I joined Eve. And I know I'm not the only one.
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Machiavelli7
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Posted - 2004.02.03 21:19:00 -
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I've always wondered why Eurogamer never mentions Eve.. now i know why
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Meta Orred
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Posted - 2004.02.03 21:26:00 -
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They have never done an official review because (AFAIK) they never received a complimentary copy of the game.
They do a 'Reader Review' feature every so often and Eve has had at least 3 of those whereas most games just get 1.
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Sam Becket
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Posted - 2004.02.04 05:46:00 -
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As a games journo, I'd offer to do a review for them, but EG does not have a freelance budget alas :(
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Meta Orred
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Posted - 2004.02.04 10:05:00 -
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It's a good site though and there are plenty of Eve members in the forums.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.02.04 10:51:00 -
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Meta, If I was to disclose your crimes on this forum, people would be stunned.
I, however, will refrain from doing so.
I think you need to work on your rhetorics skills, no-one took the bait.
Feel free to start a "Meta Orred's stunning crimes" thread (not that anyone besides you and your alts would post in it), but don't try to spin control this one.
In the mean time you could work on your formal apology and send some money our way.
Oh by the way... have you noticed that certain level 3 agents now offer a "Locate person, any region" service? It just so happens that myself an a few others have access to this service.
See you later Nicholas... where-ever you happen to be hiding.
Originally by: DB Preacher
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Destruct
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Posted - 2004.02.04 11:45:00 -
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...we will make it our sole ambition to get that 20M back, either as a direct donation from Nicholas, or in the form of his battleship scrap metal parts.
20M? you got to be kidding? all this for 20M?
You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word. - Al Capone
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.02.04 11:50:00 -
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Locking this thread, it has run it's course and it's going offtopic now.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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