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Tagg'net	Posted - 2007.08.12 18:06:00 - [1] Edited by: Tagg''net on 12/08/2007 18:06:09 Its been a while since I seen a moro used.. over a year.. looking at stats when did moro get nerfed to hell & back ? max 5 drones ... didnt they use to field 10 drones + another 4 from drone unit control ? . max bein 14 drones... or was it just the 10 .. either way Moro + 5 drones 250% more dmg.. Sucks compared to what it was :( I miss the extra drones :(
Ask Unbeatable Gallente HighTech Marines Ltd. FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.12 18:08:00 - [2] Yeah nobody ever uses that ship anymore because it totally sucks
flexd Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.08.12 18:08:00 - [3] You do realize it's a DREAD? It's for shooting ****.
Xoduse Gallente Beasts of Burden YouWhat	Posted - 2007.08.12 18:23:00 - [4] Originally by: Tagg'net Edited by: Tagg''net on 12/08/2007 18:06:09 Its been a while since I seen a moro used.. over a year.. looking at stats when did moro get nerfed to hell & back ? max 5 drones ... didnt they use to field 10 drones + another 4 from drone unit control ? . max bein 14 drones... or was it just the 10 .. either way Moro + 5 drones 250% more dmg.. Sucks compared to what it was :( I miss the extra drones :( What are you smoking man? They knocked the max controlled drones down 5 so the moros got a 50% drone damage bonus per level instead of the old drone control bonus so the damage is equivalent at dread 5...250% drone damage bonus just in a different manner. ---------------------------------
Tagg'net	Posted - 2007.08.12 18:25:00 - [5] Originally by: Xoduse Originally by: Tagg'net Edited by: Tagg''net on 12/08/2007 18:06:09 Its been a while since I seen a moro used.. over a year.. looking at stats when did moro get nerfed to hell & back ? max 5 drones ... didnt they use to field 10 drones + another 4 from drone unit control ? . max bein 14 drones... or was it just the 10 .. either way Moro + 5 drones 250% more dmg.. Sucks compared to what it was :( I miss the extra drones :( What are you smoking man? They knocked the max controlled drones down 5 so the moros got a 50% drone damage bonus per level instead of the old drone control bonus so the damage is equivalent at dread 5...250% drone damage bonus just in a different manner. am sure it had 250% bonus + 1 drone per level . . which = 10 drones + 250% dmg in total .. then they removed the 1 drone per level =/
Tagg'net	Posted - 2007.08.12 18:25:00 - [6] Originally by: flexd You do realize it's a DREAD? It's for shooting ****. Well Friend used it for pve =/
Redback911 Malevolent Intentions Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.08.12 19:10:00 - [7] It used to have +5 drones per level. Which is identical to the 50% damage / hp bonus. Move on.
Raediearn	Posted - 2007.08.12 21:24:00 - [8] oh, whew! what a relief! This post scared me at first. I was ready to click the trash it button on my moros.
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.08.12 21:29:00 - [9] Originally by: Raediearn oh, whew! what a relief! This post scared me at first. I was ready to click the trash it button on my moros. Originally by: "QproQ" When people say "Put 'stabs on your 'cane", they mean GYROSTABS"
Gladiator Jonny Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.08.12 23:08:00 - [10] Originally by: Tagg'net Edited by: Tagg''net on 12/08/2007 18:06:09 Its been a while since I seen a moro used.. over a year.. looking at stats when did moro get nerfed to hell & back ? max 5 drones ... didnt they use to field 10 drones + another 4 from drone unit control ? . max bein 14 drones... or was it just the 10 .. either way Moro + 5 drones 250% more dmg.. Sucks compared to what it was :( I miss the extra drones :( Is it really that bloody hard to put an s at the end of moro? does cutting it out really save that much time?

Xequecal	Posted - 2007.08.12 23:56:00 - [11] Edited by: Xequecal on 12/08/2007 23:56:17 It must be so hard having the longest range, highest damage dreadnaught. (Sentry drones do shoot POSes now, right?) Oh, and the only one that can actually kill smaller ships attacking it.
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.08.13 00:27:00 - [12] Originally by: Xequecal Edited by: Xequecal on 12/08/2007 23:56:17 It must be so hard having the longest range, highest damage dreadnaught. (Sentry drones do shoot POSes now, right?) Oh, and the only one that can actually kill smaller ships attacking it. Last I checked, Capital blasters aren't long ranged enough to shoot the control tower of a large pos. Originally by: "QproQ" When people say "Put 'stabs on your 'cane", they mean GYROSTABS"
Hyuuga Veralis Pator Tech School	Posted - 2007.08.13 00:39:00 - [13] There was no overall nerf, and the moros drones are still inexcusably powerful. Prenerf... 10 drones is 500dps. Add 25 for Dread V and that's 1250 more, so 1750DPS. After... 5 Drones is 500dps. Each level of dread adds 250 DPS (50% more dps), that's 1250 more dps, for 1750dps.
hUssmann Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.08.13 01:34:00 - [14] Originally by: Liang Nuren Last I checked, Capital blasters aren't long ranged enough to shoot the control tower of a large pos. I mean heck yeah, it would be great to have a long range weapon for the dread, sort of like a railgun perhaps? I've got an awesome idea why don't you call it a Dual 1000m railgun. Oh and before you "Counter-Flame", Blasters with Iron/lead do less damage than Railguns and Antimatter. Also the bridge you emerged from under is to your left. Feel free to go back there at any time. Ginger Magician > You are merely an effective ganker of haulers who runs at the first sign of combat.
Pinky Denmark The Cursed Navy	Posted - 2007.08.13 11:06:00 - [15] ouch - better stay away from the Big Green Huss... Capital Blasters are for fighting other capitals and/or stuff outside POS shield? - I'm a nice guy!! MOA is NOT UGLY!!! It's A FREAK SHOW!!!!
hUssmann Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.08.13 11:23:00 - [16] Originally by: Pinky Denmark ouch - better stay away from the Big Green Huss... I'm beginning to get a bit of a reputation as a hulk, I hope it doesn't put me in the ship. Ginger Magician > You are merely an effective ganker of haulers who runs at the first sign of combat.
Gabriel Karade Quam Singulari M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.08.13 12:33:00 - [17] Originally by: Hyuuga Veralis There was no overall nerf, and the moros drones are still inexcusably powerful. Prenerf... 10 drones is 500dps. Add 25 for Dread V and that's 1250 more, so 1750DPS. After... 5 Drones is 500dps. Each level of dread adds 250 DPS (50% more dps), that's 1250 more dps, for 1750dps. It's not that much - 5 Ogre II's at maximum skills is 316.8 dps not 500. Dreadnought I gives you the equivalent of maxed-out on a Dominix i.e. 475.2 dps, Dreadnought V bumps that up to 1108.8 dps ---------- Video - 'War-Machine'
Jinmie	Posted - 2007.08.13 13:16:00 - [18] Originally by: Gabriel Karade Originally by: Hyuuga Veralis There was no overall nerf, and the moros drones are still inexcusably powerful. Prenerf... 10 drones is 500dps. Add 25 for Dread V and that's 1250 more, so 1750DPS. After... 5 Drones is 500dps. Each level of dread adds 250 DPS (50% more dps), that's 1250 more dps, for 1750dps. It's not that much - 5 Ogre II's at maximum skills is 316.8 dps not 500. Dreadnought I gives you the equivalent of maxed-out on a Dominix i.e. 475.2 dps, Dreadnought V bumps that up to 1108.8 dps Which is still the amount the average Carrier does with Fighters... The bonus should be for Sentry drones only imo, scene as they are what a Moros will use to shoot at a POS, atm it's too over powering that this Dread can deal such an insane amount of dmg with drones compared to the other Dreads, and is just taking the **** that just its Ogre II's do as much dps as a Carrier's 11 Fighters.
Talia Windheart Minmatar Kouncel	Posted - 2007.08.13 18:50:00 - [19] Originally by: Jinmie Originally by: Gabriel Karade Originally by: Hyuuga Veralis There was no overall nerf, and the moros drones are still inexcusably powerful. Prenerf... 10 drones is 500dps. Add 25 for Dread V and that's 1250 more, so 1750DPS. After... 5 Drones is 500dps. Each level of dread adds 250 DPS (50% more dps), that's 1250 more dps, for 1750dps. It's not that much - 5 Ogre II's at maximum skills is 316.8 dps not 500. Dreadnought I gives you the equivalent of maxed-out on a Dominix i.e. 475.2 dps, Dreadnought V bumps that up to 1108.8 dps Which is still the amount the average Carrier does with Fighters... The bonus should be for Sentry drones only imo, scene as they are what a Moros will use to shoot at a POS, atm it's too over powering that this Dread can deal such an insane amount of dmg with drones compared to the other Dreads, and is just taking the **** that just its Ogre II's do as much dps as a Carrier's 11 Fighters. so from the read you can't acuttly pilot a dread or you might ACUTTLY have an outlook worth the insight.. lets Review the Bonus's Before We Remove The Moros's Bonus enlight of sentry only.. Rev Special Abilities: 10% reduction in Capital Energy Turret capacitor use per level 5% bonus to Capital Energy Turret rate of fire per level 99% reduction in CPU need for Siege Module Nag Special Abilities: 7.5% bonus to Capital Projectile rate of fire per level 5% bonus to Citadel Launcher rate of fire per level 99% reduction in CPU need for Siege Module Phoenix Special Abilities: 5% bonus to kinetic missile damage per level 5% bonus to Capital Launcher rate of fire per level 99% reduction in CPU need for Siege Module Moros Special Abilities 5% bonus to Capital Hybrid Turret damage per level 50% bonus to drone damage and hitpoints per level 99% reduction in CPU need for Siege Module Now Remove the Siege module bonus becuase they all get it and lets review. This is DPS BEFORE Siege becuase quickfit STILL dosn't compute dps in siege All Relevant Skills at 4, IE Racial Capital Turret/Launcher 4, Dread 4, add 5 Ogre II's Rev 3x Dual Giga Beam Laser I's With Multifreq (8.55 rof) 5x Ogre II's DPS 445.628 (203.017 NO DRONES) Nag 2x Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I With EMP XL (22.72 rof) 2x Citadel Torpedo Launcher I With Doom Torpedo's (29.38 rof) 5x Ogre II's DPS 420.099 (177.488 NO DRONES) Phoenix 3x Citadel Torpedo Launcher I With Rift Torpedo's (29.38 rof) 5x Ogre II's DPS 454.164 (211.553 NO DRONES) Moros 3x Dual 1000mm Railgun I's With Antimatter (11.38 rof) 5x Ogre II's DPS 987.13 (137.991 No drones) Ohh snappppp moros wins BUT sieging a pos has nothing to do with dps its about per volley dmg in witch case the moros is BY FAR the worst with with lower dmg than all the rest of the cap ships as shown above. The moros having the lack of dmg vs a pos has a secondary role of its drone bonus to defend it self but if u get cuaght a pos with ur sentrys out you are pretty much screwed becuase i have yet to launch a sentry drone that was wihin scoop range of my ship and with no ability to move well u see i would be STUCK with those drones out till the enemy killed them.. and if they where smart they would never kill them Moros is fine the way it is FLy the SHIP then make your comments
Jinmie	Posted - 2007.08.14 10:48:00 - [20] Edited by: Jinmie on 14/08/2007 10:49:09 How is siegeing a pos about volley damage more than dps? It's not like you are trying to break its tank and volley damage is more important to bypass it's rep cycles... It's still gonna take ages to do, a timescale where dps overtakes volley damage. The fact is you can barely even communicate whatever warped point you are trying to make and you completly ignored my points about 5 Ogre II's from a Moros having the dps equivalent to a Carrier's Fighters, you think that's not a good enough point? How about you actually talk to some competant Moros pilots or the Battleships on the receiving end that get ganked by some insane Ogres in a matter of seconds? Oh and QF sucks, use EFT.



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