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tiberiusric
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Posted - 2007.08.12 18:23:00 -
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hi,have good drone skills and can fly ishtar etc.have seen a few setups using sentry drones for pvp.are these setups good and if so how would you use an ishtar with them.
thanks
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Ryan Scouse'UK
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.12 18:26:00 -
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nano Phoon + nos + cruise + sents
O wait the nano nerf..
=/ next
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Cleric JohnPreston
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Posted - 2007.08.13 10:04:00 -
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Yes they rock. I always use them.
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Rafein
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Posted - 2007.08.13 10:22:00 -
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situational. So really, only the Domi can maxamize it's potential, since it can carry other drones when target's get beneath the sentrie's tracking.
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tiberiusric
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Posted - 2007.08.13 13:45:00 -
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would t1 sentries out damage t2 ogres?also coud you give me a fit for domi.
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Shiken Kan
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Posted - 2007.08.13 20:08:00 -
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sentry drones are in between medium and heavy drones damagewise, their advantage is that they attack immeaditely, much like turrets do and stay in scoop distance unless you're bumped.
you can even make a 200km sniper domi with wardens (tho it won't be much better than a real sniper when the enemy gets close)
mebbe try sthing like this:
hi
4x drone link augmentor
1x heavy nos (best named)
1x heavy neut (best named)
mid
1x sensor booster 2
2x omnidirectional tracking link
1x warp disruptor 2
1x heavy cap booster
low
2x lar (best named)
1x 1600mm rolled tungsten
1x dcu 2
1x eanm 2
1x explosive hardener 2
1x co processor
rigs
1x sentry damage augmentor 1
2x drone scope chip 1
drones
5x warden 2
5x garde 2
5x ogre 2
could target and engage with warden 2 at 140km, when target is below 60 use garde and below 25km nos/neut/scram and use ogres while keeping a fairly good tank for a long range setup running.
oh and drone rigs are fairly cheap.
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NoNah
Unseen University
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Posted - 2007.08.13 20:16:00 -
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Edited by: NoNah on 13/08/2007 20:17:05
 Originally by: Shiken Kan
sentry drones are in between medium and heavy drones damagewise, their advantage is that they attack immeaditely, much like turrets do and stay in scoop distance unless you're bumped.
1. T1 Sentries outdamage T1 Heavy drones.
2. They do appear out of scoop range every once in a while(VERY annoying if you're in a sieged moros)
3. 50 * 1.25 * 1.2 * (0.20 * 0.87 + 1) = 88km Optimal, 25km Falloff, at 140km as suggested youd have about 5% accuracy?
4. It's a waste not to carry any anti-tackler drones in a domi, go with 4 Gardes and 5 Warrior II's or w/e.
Set up a few vexors and arbitrators with 5 sentries each and you've got an awesome gatecamp though. Let them all spider rep and its annoying to pop aswell.
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Shiken Kan
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Posted - 2007.08.13 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: Shiken Kan on 13/08/2007 20:46:25
Originally by: NoNah
Edited by: NoNah on 13/08/2007 20:17:05
Originally by: Shiken Kan
sentry drones are in between medium and heavy drones damagewise, their advantage is that they attack immeaditely, much like turrets do and stay in scoop distance unless you're bumped.
1. T1 Sentries outdamage T1 Heavy drones.
2. They do appear out of scoop range every once in a while(VERY annoying if you're in a sieged moros)
3. 50 * 1.25 * 1.2 * (0.20 * 0.87 + 1) = 88km Optimal, 25km Falloff, at 140km as suggested youd have about 5% accuracy?
4. It's a waste not to carry any anti-tackler drones in a domi, go with 4 Gardes and 5 Warrior II's or w/e.
Set up a few vexors and arbitrators with 5 sentries each and you've got an awesome gatecamp though. Let them all spider rep and its annoying to pop aswell.
1. ok, but only close and only for t1
2. never happened to me before and i use sentries all the time
3. warden 2 have 60km baserange and iirc tracking links aren't stacking nerfed and you forgot the 2 scope chips, optimal should be around 132 km
4. good point, i was thinking about sthing like that, but didn't want to loose on the ogres and didn't even think about cutting a bit on the gardes, so yeah that would be better :)
/edit
oh and he asked for a domi fit, not for vexors or arbitrators (which can only accomodate 3 sentries each btw :p )
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NoNah
Unseen University
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Posted - 2007.08.13 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Shiken Kan
oh and he asked for a domi fit, not for vexors or arbitrators (which can only accomodate 3 sentries each btw :p )
Thats the entire point, they can only accomodate 3, but control 5, thus they need a domi or carrier around.
Ah, yes, missed the rigs.
Afraid they are stacking penalized however, you'd be at around 119km range with the rigs.
It can be hard to spot it happening, as the sentries would appear right out of range, and when youre in anything but a sieged dread - youre rarely ENTIRELY stationary.
IIRC it was something about them being relized within a span where its enough that any part of the drone is within 1500m which means the centre can be outside.
Note that this may have been fixed though.
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Shiken Kan
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Posted - 2007.08.13 21:59:00 -
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actually with max skills t2 heavies outdamage t2 sentries by 5.6% (with drone specialization 4, which is minimum they deal a bit over 3% more damage), though using a sentry rig will make them deal more damage yes (13% more damage with 2 rigs, which is maximum).
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NoNah
Unseen University
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Posted - 2007.08.13 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Shiken Kan
actually with max skills t2 heavies outdamage t2 sentries by 5.6% (with drone specialization 4, which is minimum they deal a bit over 3% more damage), though using a sentry rig will make them deal more damage yes (13% more damage with 2 rigs, which is maximum).
Which is true, until you factor in traveltime.
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Shiken Kan
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Posted - 2007.08.13 22:35:00 -
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Edited by: Shiken Kan on 13/08/2007 22:35:47
Originally by: NoNah
Originally by: Shiken Kan
actually with max skills t2 heavies outdamage t2 sentries by 5.6% (with drone specialization 4, which is minimum they deal a bit over 3% more damage), though using a sentry rig will make them deal more damage yes (13% more damage with 2 rigs, which is maximum).
Which is true, until you factor in traveltime.
which is true, until you factor in combat distance of a normal nosdomi 
/edit
i fear that this is already borderline spamming 
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NoNah
Unseen University
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Posted - 2007.08.13 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Shiken Kan
Originally by: NoNah
Originally by: Shiken Kan
actually with max skills t2 heavies outdamage t2 sentries by 5.6% (with drone specialization 4, which is minimum they deal a bit over 3% more damage), though using a sentry rig will make them deal more damage yes (13% more damage with 2 rigs, which is maximum).
Which is true, until you factor in traveltime.
which is true, until you factor in combat distance of a normal nosdomi
Which is true, until you factor in the fact that this is by no means a normal nosdomi.
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Shiken Kan
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Posted - 2007.08.13 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah
Originally by: Shiken Kan
Originally by: NoNah
Originally by: Shiken Kan
actually with max skills t2 heavies outdamage t2 sentries by 5.6% (with drone specialization 4, which is minimum they deal a bit over 3% more damage), though using a sentry rig will make them deal more damage yes (13% more damage with 2 rigs, which is maximum).
Which is true, until you factor in traveltime.
which is true, until you factor in combat distance of a normal nosdomi
Which is true, until you factor in the fact that this is by no means a normal nosdomi.
that's exactly what i like about this ship 
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