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Jacob Kies	Posted - 2007.08.13 01:55:00 - [1] Ok heres the story, I'm at the Amarr's second space station (the one after you finish the tutorial) and there are no ships in sight as I undock. In front of the entrance there is a cargo container, so i scan the area and see no one, then I go carefully over to the container open it get the warning (scoff at it =P) and take out a shiny looking large laser (cant remember what it was called), all of a sudden a frigate appears above me and scrambles me (how it got there I have no idea), however the pilot must have forgot about the large station about 10 meters behind me -.-. So being the smart cookie I am, i simply turned around and docked. Now can someone tell me why someone would go to all that trouble and forget to pack a web? After the 15 min thingo expired I went out and hungaround for a bit, and sure enough it happened again, someone undocked, waited, and opened the container, the frig appears and the person just docks again. Are some people really that dumb?
PraetorNZ Axe Gang	Posted - 2007.08.13 02:00:00 - [2] probably cause he was in a cov ops and didnt have the mids for a web. also being at a noob station he would be guessing most people would panic and not know what to do when they get targeted being so new to the game
Jiny Galactic Industries	Posted - 2007.08.13 02:02:00 - [3] I was under the impression that it was against the rules to do this in newb systems, did that rule go away with the old newbie complexes? ----- Set phazors on fun!
Jacob Kies	Posted - 2007.08.13 02:06:00 - [4] Originally by: PraetorNZ probably cause he was in a cov ops and didnt have the mids for a web. also being at a noob station he would be guessing most people would panic and not know what to do when they get targeted being so new to the game Nah wasn't cov ops., looked like an Incursus to me. I though it was norty to this at a noob station too, but what I'd like to know is how he suddenly appeared !
Boses Galactic Industries	Posted - 2007.08.13 02:13:00 - [5] u can fit cloaks to other ships, but there would be a 30 second(or whatever penalty that cloak has) before he could lock...so maybe he just undocked, or warped in on a bookmark to land on the can?
Jacob Kies	Posted - 2007.08.13 02:15:00 - [6] Yeah I think he must have warped, because the container was level with the little tube thingy that you undock from and he appeared near the top of the station.
Devian 666 Axe Gang	Posted - 2007.08.13 03:18:00 - [7] Edited by: Devian 666 on 13/08/2007 03:18:39 Doing this in 1.0 to new characters is naughty. He's unlikely to be cloaked as the station radius is very large and would decloak any cloaked ship. That and a cov ops pilot would use a stealth bomber for insta pop. I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain.
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.13 03:43:00 - [8] Next time he does it in a 1.0 newb system, petition him. It is ok to do this in any place but in newb station systems and deadspace training plexes. Caldari are the plague of EVE, little whiners that must be cleansed from TQ.
hellsknights Phoenix Navy Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.08.13 03:49:00 - [9] Sounds like loads of fun....... Someone who goes out of there way to pop a 3 day old newb, with the container bait has gotta be a newb himself. Yes please do petition this character, i think he is of need of a GM spanking. Hells Let me liberate you of your T2 mods. T2 mods are dropping in price, because of invention?? No its because of pirates.
Jacob Castillo Caldari Copperhead Inc. Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.08.13 03:54:00 - [10] I didn't realize that Amarr was a starter system.
Avaricha Halo The Cry of Mankind	Posted - 2007.08.13 03:57:00 - [11] That actualy sounds like griefing to me. I cant see where either the fun or the profit is in this. And thats said from someone who hunts 'bears for a living. If he continues to do this I'd suggest a petition. On the other hand.. this might be a good way to filtrate out "unwanted players". But I'm not gonna elaborate on that.
General Coochie New Justice Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.08.13 11:27:00 - [12] Ppl who put cans infront of station to kill noobs should get some kind of penalty from GMs if caught tbh. Ive got an alt hauling stuff in a trade hub from time to time. And it annoys the hell out of me, when I have to spend a couple of extra minutes each haul cause some ******s put containers infront of the station, making me bump the continers and all other ships that gets caught in the container. I think its griefing and I petition anyone I see doing it, even if it isnt in a noob system. Cause putting the can there to kill noobs making alot pf other players having to bump around like that, serves no other purpose then to grief ppl IMO. /whine Signature removed - please reduce your signature graphic height to less than 120 pixels - Jacques([email protected])
Halacris	Posted - 2007.08.13 11:40:00 - [13] Originally by: Jacob Castillo I didn't realize that Amarr was a starter system. I didn't realize you were an idiot who can't read.
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.08.13 12:54:00 - [14] Originally by: Jiny I was under the impression that it was against the rules to do this in newb systems, did that rule go away with the old newbie complexes? As far as i know you are correct. This is total griefing and really spoils the game for newcomers. As soon as they enter low sec or the proper systems then it's fair game but in noob system i believe it is a bannable offence. DE
Zafriel Acidic Reign	Posted - 2007.08.13 13:07:00 - [15] Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: Jiny I was under the impression that it was against the rules to do this in newb systems, did that rule go away with the old newbie complexes? As far as i know you are correct. This is total griefing and really spoils the game for newcomers. As soon as they enter low sec or the proper systems then it's fair game but in noob system i believe it is a bannable offence. DE Im not above a nice gank and have probably killed hundereds of noobs in my days of pirating, but intentionally going out of your way to grief newcommers is really pathetic. So petition the guy and get him banned or atleast a wake up call from a gm so that he stops his pathetic way of playing.
Angela Goethrella	Posted - 2007.08.13 16:05:00 - [16] I'm not above smashing newbies in the teeth should they ignore the warning 'hey, this is low sec...you're likely to get shot at'. But to can bait at a noobstation? Even I've got some standards. (I'm willing to blow up noobships tho, they are kind of crunchy, and on occasion come with really interesting and expensive fittings :)
Nocturnal Avenger The Ankou The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.08.13 17:58:00 - [17] Originally by: Setana Manoro Next time he does it in a 1.0 newb system, petition him. It is ok to do this in any place but in newb station systems and deadspace training plexes. If you become flagged - you're a target. There is no such thing as n00b-space. (shooting n00bs like that, however, is pathetic) - Carebear Pirate -
Lorrn Koil	Posted - 2007.08.13 22:37:00 - [18] Originally by: General Coochie Ppl who put cans infront of station to kill noobs should get some kind of penalty from GMs if caught tbh. Ive got an alt hauling stuff in a trade hub from time to time. And it annoys the hell out of me, when I have to spend a couple of extra minutes each haul cause some ******s put containers infront of the station, making me bump the continers and all other ships that gets caught in the container. I think its griefing and I petition anyone I see doing it, even if it isnt in a noob system. Cause putting the can there to kill noobs making alot pf other players having to bump around like that, serves no other purpose then to grief ppl IMO. /whine God forbid that we do it stop our war targets from insta-warping in shuttle and small frigates....
Khorian Gallente Excidium.	Posted - 2007.08.14 01:21:00 - [19] Could have been a noob too, that just wanted to try and blow someone up. Learning (He no knows that ganking at Space Stations is not so easy ;) )
Jacob Kies	Posted - 2007.08.14 01:35:00 - [20] Time for a bit of name and shame, I saw another one! Silverwing68 2 cans, and hes in a tricked out Dessie, same station. Hes been on in the last hour. Ill petition him when i log on again
Lord Evangelian Gallente LEAP Corp United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.08.14 03:39:00 - [21] last time I saw some one do this...I stole from his can got him to 5% struct (it was a very thin line hard to tell so im estimating) then ransomed him for 10M, poped him and gave the money back to the people I saw him pop. (Call me an ass for dishonoring this ransom but it strikes a nerve when i see people picking on noobs). BTW this guy was doing it in a caracal and was 1 month old so I figured he'd been playing long enough to know better... Just POP 'n' PET thats what I say... ------------------------------------------ One day I'll show you...and then you will bow down...
Xanos Blackpaw Amarr The Firestorm Elite	Posted - 2007.08.14 09:21:00 - [22] Edited by: Xanos Blackpaw on 14/08/2007 09:21:43 Edited by: Xanos Blackpaw on 14/08/2007 09:21:34 i admit i have done some n00b fishing outside a station before. however after i have killed their ship i do give them a few mil and some advise... Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi".
Jacob Kies	Posted - 2007.08.15 00:25:00 - [23] Now, you all thought the other ones where bad? Well... at the Chaven VII (or is it VIII?), the Amarr starting area basically, I was checking out a corp's office there and I noticed 3-4 containers sitting there with the words free stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on all of em. I couldn't see anything other than the Amarr starter frigs there so I docked and went about my bussiness. When I undocked there was a new ship and 2 wreckages next to a container... thats right someone was baiting people that have just started playing the game, good first impression eh? Name: lord kazarh Not long after that i saw him pop another frig, I was seriously considering getting a group together and taking him, but I didn't think anyone for a few systems would have tackling equipment and he was flying a heavy assault ship.
Krows Crimson Star Empire FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.27 14:38:00 - [24] Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw Edited by: Xanos Blackpaw on 14/08/2007 09:21:43 Edited by: Xanos Blackpaw on 14/08/2007 09:21:34 i admit i have done some n00b fishing outside a station before. however after i have killed their ship i do give them a few mil and some advise... I have too and I feel terrible for it. I'm sending the victim money when I get home, he deserves that much. What I say here... does not reflect on my corp or alliance.
PhantomVyper Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.27 15:25:00 - [25] Originally by: Jacob Kies Now, you all thought the other ones where bad? Well... at the Chaven VII (or is it VIII?), the Amarr starting area basically, I was checking out a corp's office there and I noticed 3-4 containers sitting there with the words free stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on all of em. I couldn't see anything other than the Amarr starter frigs there so I docked and went about my bussiness. When I undocked there was a new ship and 2 wreckages next to a container... thats right someone was baiting people that have just started playing the game, good first impression eh? Name: lord kazarh Not long after that i saw him pop another frig, I was seriously considering getting a group together and taking him, but I didn't think anyone for a few systems would have tackling equipment and he was flying a heavy assault ship. Please, the next time you witness something like this going on petition the char doing this for harassment. Can-baiting noobs in starter systems is a bannable offense. If you are not in a starter system then petition him for dropping jetcans too close to a station exit, that is also a bannable offense. Either way, EVE will have 1 less noob griefer and be that little bit better for it.
maCH'EttE Veto.	Posted - 2007.08.27 18:17:00 - [26] Why do they bother? Because they want to be nasty, ebil, pie-wats, but they're too afraid to leave the cotton-wool padded safety of High Sec. To make up for it, they make themselves feel all big and strong by killing lots of new players who don't know how to properly defend themselves. Originally by: Devil Hanzo (ISD) I got pwned!
Agent Li Caldari Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2007.08.27 19:29:00 - [27] Sounds like it would be fun to go out and open the can on purpose, in a Myrmi, and wait for him to start shooting. ------------------ "Don't be afraid to take advantage of your enemy's weaknesses. Becasuse winning is everything after all."
Irob Urore Amarr Rick Astleys Pirate Corp Of Goodness	Posted - 2007.08.28 05:31:00 - [28] My favorite is when they name the can "YOU" or "YOU - hurry fight back!" or something similar, then proceed to warp scramble the can when someone un docks.
Ess Erbe State War Academy	Posted - 2007.08.28 05:36:00 - [29] Originally by: Agent Li Sounds like it would be fun to go out and open the can on purpose, in a Myrmi, and wait for him to start shooting. Get a frig and do nothing but tank armor and shield on it so it won't instapop, instadock when shot, get out and proceed with the smackdown.
Steve Hawkings	Posted - 2007.08.28 13:06:00 - [30] write a petition, baiting noobs is a bannable offence.

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