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Kiku Alatani
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Posted - 2007.08.13 15:54:00 -
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Hi,
me and a friend of mine are currently playing the 14-day Trial and now that we have 7 days left, we need to decide if we should buy gametime cards or not. And while we really, really like EVE, we have no idea what we'd do if we played it for half a year or so.. I don't think we'd join a big corp or get involved with PvP, I know that much. But what else can you do in EVE? Keep mining? Do missions? Buy and learn new skills to be able to fly that cool ship?
Some people here have been playing EVE for years.. What's your longtime motivation? What keeps you playing?
Thanks in advance,
- Kiku Alatani
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Ethion
Soldiers of Woe
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Posted - 2007.08.13 16:06:00 -
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Im a long time player and I've been sucked into the skill trained part if this game. I might need to find a new reason to keep playing once I hit 100million skill points.
Other wise to kill time I kill people in lowsec and do exploration for money
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Zaqar
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Posted - 2007.08.13 16:09:00 -
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 Originally by: Kiku Alatani
I don't think we'd join a big corp or get involved with PvP, I know that much.
Why not, may I ask? Its a big part of the game (understatement). I can appreciate the 'not joining a big corp' thing, but if you totally avoid pvp then you'll only be experiencing part of the game...
Someone will be along shortly to point out that almost everything in Eve is PVP in one form or another, but I'll assume you mean ship-to-ship combat.
Go on, give it a go. Fly stuff you can afford to lose. You might just like it :)
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Durn Loze
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Posted - 2007.08.13 16:15:00 -
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Why wouldn't you get involved in PvP or in a big corp? It seems a bit early to make that decision. You need to experience more of the game imo to have a better idea of all the options out there. Play for another month if you enjoy it and then you can decide after that month if there are longterm goals worthpurusing.
I started and did missions, traded and avoided corporations for a while. After a few months, I finally dove in and joined a merc corp in lowsec. We tried to setup a POS, it got destoryed, we got into some battles, we got wardeced, I was in one fleet battles, and this was all in about 1 month. I experienced a ton and it changed my view of the game. I left EVE, came back, the corp was gone and I ended up joining a lowsec corp that eventually moved into 0.0 and is now living in 0.0.
I never would have expected to be where I was when I first started. But one thing led to another, I just made sure I was doing what I had fun with in game and now I'm a 0.0 resident, spending 90% of my time in 0.0 and defending our space. About the last place I would have expected to be when I first started.
Durn
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Kiku Alatani
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Posted - 2007.08.13 16:32:00 -
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About the PvP part: I wouldn't mind taking care of myself in low security zones but I'm just not interested in big battles. I have no idea what corporations do all day, but I've never wanted to join a big clan or guild in any game, same for EVE... ;)
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Zaqar
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Posted - 2007.08.13 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kiku Alatani
About the PvP part: I wouldn't mind taking care of myself in low security zones but I'm just not interested in big battles. I have no idea what corporations do all day, but I've never wanted to join a big clan or guild in any game, same for EVE... ;)
Cool, I'm the same in that respect. Done the alliance thing, can't see myself doing it again.
I personally take some satisfaction from trying to do things alone. I don't play 'Single-player Eve' as some might say; there are still many other players trying to kill me while I go about my business so its definitely still MMO ;-)
Longterm motivation? Well, I may fly solo a lot but I have a lot of friends ingame...they are the main reason I keep coming back. Building the wallet, developing my knowledge of the game (I spend more time designing ship loadouts than actually flying them  ) and generally hanging out and having fun are others I guess. Some folks have loftier goals like universal domination and being the baddest-ass out there, but I'm nowhere near as competitive.
My advice then: Sample as much as you can of what Eve has to offer, but try to find yourself a niche. Something you like doing, maybe something that no-one's even thought of before. There's so many opportunities here for creative gameplay, and many of Eve's 'professions' were invented by players not CCP :) Leaving your mark on the universe in some way is a nice goal.
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Verona Mal
Eve University
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Posted - 2007.08.13 18:21:00 -
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The great thing about EVE is that it can be almost anything you want to make of it. It's a lot like real life stuck on fast forward in a confined space without the effects of gravity. PVP is such a central part of the game because everything you do affects everyone else in the game and despite EVE space being so big it's still relatively confined. Conflict is bound to come up. It's not all pew pew either. Anytime you have an advantage over others, somebody else will want to take that from you. As you gain power you become a bigger target. That's why when an alliance claims a chunk of 0.0 they get attacked a lot. That's why BoB is such a huge target. That's why industrialists take out hits on each other when market PVP turns ugly. The list goes on and on...
Anyway I digress. If you aren't interested in PVP, I assume you mean the kind where you shoot at people. Have you looked into trading, mining, or industry? Despite what some might tell you, these can be fun and lucrative professions. You don't even need to start your own corp right off. Just find another corp out there whose goals sound good to you and see if they're recruiting.
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Ozzie Asrail
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.08.13 18:40:00 -
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Drunken pvp. It's the endgame of eve! 
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Ess Erbe
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Posted - 2007.08.13 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ozzie Asrail
Drunken pvp. It's the endgame of eve!
I thought it was the startgame, midgame and endgame?
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Vladimir Ilych
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:15:00 -
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Sounds like you and your friend should start a corp together.
My long term motivation...
New Skills
New Ships
Better weapons
More cash
Learning to PvP better
Building stuff for myself
Exploration
POS industry
um thats it for the moment.
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Serret Nevets
Serret's Harem
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Posted - 2007.08.13 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: Serret Nevets on 13/08/2007 20:49:44
One of the worst pieces of advice people give is "don't fly what you can't afford to loose." That's terrible advice. If I took that to heart I'd never leave the station because I can't afford to loose anything. When I loose a ship, it sucks, so I try not to loose them. Go buy expensive stuff and expensive ships and go to low sec and get that heart racing and your brow wet with perspiration. You'll end up loving PVP. That will be a definite motivator. 
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Vincenzo Delloro
Amarr
Lux et Veritas
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Posted - 2007.08.13 21:15:00 -
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For me, it's exploration with a small "e". I want to see it all.
Of course big "E" Exploration is awesome too. And I like tinkering with ship fittings just right until I get a ship that does just what I want every time.
I come from a background of unrestricted PvP MUDs (and EVE is actually closer to a MUD in many respects than your typical MMORPG) and I'm used to being on my guard at all times. Hell, in some of those, there were literally no safe spots to rest up because other players could become powerful enough to take down whole rooms of city guards and gank other players at the same time.
Even so, PvP is a side interest for me. I'm a defensive player, and won't go out activly searching for PvP, but I enjoy the thrill of being attacked out of the blue while I'm missioning.
It took me a little while to get to a point where the game didn't feel like an uphill grind, but now I'm at nearly 6 million skill points, I have a fitted, insured tier 3 battleship; several industrial, trade and research skills; and my learning skills all up to 4, and I really do enjoy the game more than ever because I can do a little bit of everything. That's really what keeps me here, finding new cool stuff every day.
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Cipher7
OldBastardsPub
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.13 21:27:00 -
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Variety.
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Pang Grohl
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.13 21:28:00 -
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I would suggest trying out everything you can. At this early stage having a go at PvP ship combat wouldn't be a bad idea. Simply, because at some point you will be attacked by another player.
Si non adjuvas, noces
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Zephyr Mallory
Limberry Aegis GmbH
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Posted - 2007.08.13 21:36:00 -
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The main reason I play is because my goal is to eventually own and be able to fly every ship (to its potential) ... if that isn't a long term goal...
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William Walker
Amarr
Interplanetary Mechanics
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Posted - 2007.08.13 21:37:00 -
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Lots and lots of monies to buy shiny things. That is my long-term motivation.
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Pirate Tom
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Posted - 2007.08.13 21:41:00 -
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I want a bounty on my head so big the person who pods me becomes the richest player ingame. I want to see MY face (or lack thereof) on a concord billboard. Regularly.
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The wonderful thing about pirates is pirates is wonderful things. Their box is filled up with killmails and they love to hear the screams!
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Azirapheal
Amarr
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.13 22:03:00 -
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my LTG is to fly every non capital ship in the game, with pimped skills. and full t2 fittings for all :)
also really want to train for amarr capships
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for.
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.08.13 22:59:00 -
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Combat.
First I learned how defend myself, then how to attack solo, now I'm honing my skills at leading others.
You are right though, I don't like the thought of very large fights, I enjoy small-scale combat of say 30 v. 30 or less where tactics and strategy matter more than numbers, and where lag is only starting to rear its ugly head.
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Amasera
Twilight Trading
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Posted - 2007.08.13 23:20:00 -
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.... To make mountains upon mountains of money, and then senselessly blow it all in an orgy of PVP goodness (and I have a talent for losing it, trust me). Then once I'm so spent I can't afford an exotic dancer, I hop in a frigate and start the process over again.
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Krytie
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Posted - 2007.08.13 23:20:00 -
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I agree that is may be good for you and your friend to start your own corporation. Personally, that is the route that I took also. I started eve about a year ago and have loved every moment. There is so much to do and see in the game.
When I started, the goal was to open a corporation with a friend of mine. We opened the corp and suddenly could share between us and put our cash into a pot and thus help each other along with the other things. Well, if you do this, you should talk with your friend about what skills you guys need and then work on those. Your "fighting" skills may hurt a bit as you need to get some of the administrative skills out of the way and make your corporation able to make things and sell them. That is what I did and the corporation is much better now. So, the first goal was to solidify our small 2 member corporation. We actually had two friends join our corporation as they saw how much fun we were having.
As a 2nd phase, our goal was to get a POS. Well, we found a great .7 space and our corporation almost has the standings. I am working on Gallante and the rest are caldari, so I have dropped out of the corp until the corp standings get to .7 and then will be back after the POS gets online soon.
Our next goal is to get all of our blueprints to perfect time and efficiency. This will all be dependant on the POS. After that, we want to solidify a monthly income and are currently working on this plan now as we have time while working on the blueprints.
After that, our goal is to move out to 0.0. So, we will of course at that time want to make the corp larger and have to work on when and where we would like to move out there. also, have to think about alliances and the many other aspects of 0.0. So, ultimately, we would like to have our own solar system or two or three or.... =;-D
We do have other goals as well and actually more or less have a 3 year plan, but for at least us, we dont see an end to playing Eve.
Eve is mostly about goals and trying to obtain them. Many say Eve is a sandbox and that is a great analogy. The tools are provided and we just do whatever we would like to do. So, think about what you want to do as and end goal and then work backwards from that point on how to achieve it.
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Arrs Grazznic
FireStar Inc
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kiku Alatani
I don't think we'd join a big corp or get involved with PvP, I know that much.
I really hope you decide to reevalute that statement. I was an ultimate mission running carebear, so much so that I ended up writing the mission running insider's guide for the EON magazine. After running more missions than you could possibly imagine I finally grew bored and pretty much decided to quit, though I wanted to head into 0.0 and see what it was like before I finally gave up on EVE.
So I joined a mid-sized corporation in a large alliance and on the first day in my new home the LV vs. RaGoon war broke out. I hardly had time to get my feet into the new belts before I got my first taste of fleet and small gang combat. Even though I lost ships, the experience was a revelation. From my point of view I'd been wasting my time in Empire -- being part of an alliance and battling for space was what this game is really about.
For me, I'd finally found EVE's 'end game'. The difference between EVE and other games, though, is that this end game will take a long, long time to fully play out.
Originally by: Kiku Alatani
Some people here have been playing EVE for years.. What's your longtime motivation? What keeps you playing?
So, what does keep me playing? Well, I think it is because I've found nothing better. EVE was my first MMO and ever since I started playing no other game has come close to giving what EVE has to offer. Aside from the great friends I've made in-game, the fact that everything you do, everything you buy and sell is an interaction with another real person makes this such an involved experience. So much so, that I can't imaging going back to any single player linear storyline game every again.
I would recommend joining a player corp. There are a number that run 'training' corps for newer players. Check the recruitment channel for more details.
Cheers,
Arrs
http://www.firestar-online.com/
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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
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Posted - 2007.08.14 14:16:00 -
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Most people either build up some industry earning isk and building a fortune or they wreack havoc on the battlefields losing isk if they are bad or winning if they are good. Anyways you have many good options and reasons to play.
Anyways you can almost always get better at something in Eve and sure you want that new ship or those new modules...
My Longtime and Alltime motivation for Eve are the friends in my corporation and outside. MMO's really hit you on the personal spot if you are a nice person.
Pinky
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Kiku Alatani
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Posted - 2007.08.14 16:28:00 -
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Thanks a lot for your answers! :)
I guess we'll continue playing (once we have the time). There seems to be enough to discover and to try out in EVE for a long time...
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