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Gaelean
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Posted - 2007.08.15 23:39:00 -
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Edited by: Gaelean on 15/08/2007 23:43:12
Here's what you do.
Step 1:
Create a (Want to Buy) Item Exchange Contract.
Step 2:
Pick an expensive (or moderately pricey) item, which you will receive in exchange for some money.
Step 3: (Here's the trick)
Post a description that your are buying the item, and include an amount that is 1-3 decimal places further than you will pay (e.g. Description text, "Buying [item] 1.275 Billion" - Actual Money Given = 12.75 Million).
Step 4:
Wait for a complete sucker to think he's getting a GREAT deal, then take the item and resell it.
This is completely legal.
-Here's the proof-
I submitted a petition complaining about this type of scam as a violation of EULA:
Private communication between a GM, including petitions are not permitted to be discussed on the forums -TheDagda([email protected])
So, there it is. I have posted dozens of contracts (of course not on this character) that will nab all of the complete suckers out there in Eve space.
Let's all make some money off of this GREAT COMPLETELY LEGAL SCAM!!! |
NoNah
Unseen University
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Posted - 2007.08.15 23:43:00 -
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Why would it be an exploit?
And please stop breaching the EULA *snip* Please be nice -TheDagda ([email protected]), don't post petitions and replies.
Alts is just another name for inbreeders.
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CrayC
Gallente
CrayC Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.15 23:43:00 -
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Very... Old news...
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Chereadenine Zakalwe
VENOM72
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.15 23:43:00 -
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If you fall for that one you deserve to loose your stuff.
TBH i just filter out "want to buy" in contracts cos theres so much of that crap clogging it up!
Fancy a change of scenery?
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
Sanctuary
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Posted - 2007.08.15 23:43:00 -
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Welcome to EVE.
Ths would be more appropriate in the Crime and Punishment forum.
SEARCh- we find sites for you! |
IMinYOURforums
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.08.15 23:45:00 -
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Welcome to Revelations and the new contract system. Now please, leave. CCP needs to either outlaw these contracts, or give me more than 80 ignore slots. plzthxkbai
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Saint Lazarus
C R Y O
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Posted - 2007.08.15 23:45:00 -
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I dont get it, I see no reason for it to be illegal, you get exactly what ya pay for right? 
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Gaelean
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Posted - 2007.08.15 23:48:00 -
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No no no, you're right Saint Lazarus. It is not illegal, that's the point. People get EXACTLY what they pay for.
Trade on!!!
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Fswd
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Posted - 2007.08.15 23:53:00 -
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BOOOOORING, scamming is allowed by the game mechanics
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Laura Steel
Minmatar
Independent Interspace Industiers
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Posted - 2007.08.15 23:54:00 -
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Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it
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Darn exclamation mark! I have brown hair, green eyes and a nice tan :) |
SXyWhile
Gallente
NYIT Gangstaz
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.16 00:03:00 -
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That's so five minutes ago. - Billie Joe Armstrong
Blog. |
Lord Saradomin
Gallente
Asshats and Alcoholics
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Posted - 2007.08.16 00:08:00 -
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*snip* Off-topic -TheDagda ([email protected])
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In the beginning the Universe was created,
This made a lot of people angry,
and has been widely regarded as a bad idea. |
Gaelean
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Posted - 2007.08.16 00:11:00 -
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*snip* Reference to a snipped post -TheDagda ([email protected])
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2007.08.16 00:14:00 -
[14]
 Originally by: Lord Saradomin
i love it when people say:
"(of course not on this character)"
unless CCP really are from the stone ages, it's not hard to trace one account to another 
You missed the point, he isn't hiding the scammer from CCP, he's hiding it from the playerbase, so they don't immediately block his contracts as soon as they read this.
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DubanFP
Caldari
Four Rings
D-L
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Posted - 2007.08.16 00:17:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 16/08/2007 00:17:25
nm wrong thread
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DubanFP> Flying a capital ship without knowing what you're doing is sort of like wading into the middle of a minefield. You're doomed to die horribly, it's only a matter of when. |
Gaelean
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Posted - 2007.08.16 00:19:00 -
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I'm getting owned by TheDagda!!!!
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DarkFenix
Caldari
Pilots Of Honour
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Posted - 2007.08.16 00:19:00 -
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*Yawn* Another tiresome scam complaint thread. Eve does not spoon feed idiots that can't tell one number from another. Eve certainly has been getting more and more idiot/noob friendly, but it hasn't quite turned into world of spacecraft yet.
I wish you all the luck in the world on your new scamming career. May you cause many tears for many idiots.
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pl0x pl0x
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Posted - 2007.08.16 00:38:00 -
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Wait... you want new rules for price fixing items so you dont make more mistakes, is that it?
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Gaelean
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Posted - 2007.08.16 00:48:00 -
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Edited by: Gaelean on 16/08/2007 00:49:46
No, pl0x pl0x ... I want them to come over to your house and watch you play, that was my proposal the whole time.
TheDagda is pretty quick in responding to the forums - I nominate him.
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Alanee'a Unakarakta
World Order
The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.08.16 00:51:00 -
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the market works quite the same way.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.08.16 00:51:00 -
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Hehe, so instead of "oh my god how could I have been so stupid and fall for it" self-slaps, you elect to petition the scammer ?
Of course scamming like this is completely legal.
Highly annoying for various different reasons, but still legal.
If people WOULDN'T fall for it, it wouldn't still be there.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.08.16 02:13:00 -
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i just found a raven for sale for 12 million
omg i just bought a raven for 1.2 billion
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Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn |
Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.16 03:13:00 -
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What?! Scams in constracts?! RIDICULOUS! 
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Whiners - Unite!
Tarminic - 26 Million SP in Forum Warfare. |
Ravelin Eb
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.08.16 03:21:00 -
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Welcome to the late Proterozoic eon.....
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Tammarr
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Posted - 2007.08.16 03:25:00 -
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This is why having more then 100m in your wallet is unhealthy to.
I almost fell for my very first scam a couple of days ago, market none the less...
mammoths in jita, right, 1.2m thats ok I guess... waaaait a minute here, who the prices mammoths for 120m I think it was... had to go to another station to get zhit since some visionary had bought all the mammoths put them out at this ludcrious price :(
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Eric Lupanasia
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Posted - 2007.08.16 03:48:00 -
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Not all PvP involves guns. Caveat emptor!
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sartorii
Genco
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.16 03:53:00 -
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simple proof that in Eve, ignorance and failure to pay attention to details is painful...
double and triple check your numbers before you buy/sell ANYTHING that costly...
or stay stupid and make whiny threads on the forum when you screw yourself...
"disconnect and self destruct one mullet at at time" [sic] |
WarlockX
Amarr
Free Trade Corp
Kinetic Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.16 04:00:00 -
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I don't understand how ppl can fall for that.
In the contract it says how much money you are getting e.g. 12,750,000.00 (12.75 Million)
Maybe if the bracket wasn't there you might fall for it, but when it specifically tells you "million" how can you fall for it?
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Sicil Fioet
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.08.16 04:24:00 -
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Not to mention that most of those buy orders are rediculously overpriced. If you sold someone a navy raven for 1.6b or a charon for 2b all i gotta say is hahahahahaha!!!!111eleveone
Here's a hint. Once CCP makes something illegal, people stop doing it because then they will be banned for it. If you see people doing it all over the place, then it is perfectly legal to do so, many petitions already been written, and making just another one won't help you.
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Tractormech
Caldari
Astrometrics Unlimited
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.16 04:40:00 -
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You obviously have not played eve long if you think its easy to fall for contract scams.
I can only imagine how many more noobs would lose their CNR money if we still had the old escrows.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.08.16 05:00:00 -
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yes, in eve scamming is part of life.
it's almost a class. :)
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Quote:
Why didn't we use them 80 man-years to fix bugs?
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Mirirar
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2007.08.16 05:45:00 -
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manditory "go back to wow".
seriously, though... how is this a 'sploit? just a newbie as far as I can see.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.16 05:50:00 -
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Yes, the quantity of this kind of scam attempts is annoing but they are perfectly leagl in EVE.
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.16 05:52:00 -
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The price was clearly listed there. It is simply a case of one player taking advantage of another player's mistake. We can call it a scam. But it is still perfectly legitimate.
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2007.08.16 06:09:00 -
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SCAM LEGALLY!
Heh, sounds like a tautology.
EXPLOIT LEGALLY would be call for concern,,,
Improve Market Competition!
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.16 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: Tractormech
You obviously have not played eve long if you think its easy to fall for contract scams.
I can only imagine how many more noobs would lose their CNR money if we still had the old escrows.
This ill quote for the truth, I liked escrow :(
Originally by: Rawne Karrde
PVP in EvE is consentual, you agree to it when you login. If you don't like it you're in the wrong game.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.16 08:46:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 16/08/2007 08:50:02
A While ago - there was a bug in this method. I dont know if the bug is still there just now but what would happen was the countract would automatically add in the amount in words i.e the mark would see the words that say "1.2 Million" so it would be hard for the scammer to get any targets.
However, if the scammer uses a pile of decimal points - the words "x Million" did not show up, probebly got overflowed off the contract window or something.
So insted of seeing, e.g "1,200,000.00 (1.2 Million)" in the contract price. If the scammer added in a pile of decimal points after the . mark, the contract which would automatically add in the words "1.2million" would dissapear, so combined with the Eve Font, 12,000,000.00 would look like 12 bil and not 12 mil since the Textus warning got removed.
So there is 2 issues. 1 = Idiot mark who ignores the automatic contract words that gets created. 2nd issue is taking advantage of a very real contract bug and hoping the mark misreads due to eve font.
Neither of which are exploit in my opinion though.
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Patricia Bateman
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Posted - 2007.08.16 09:53:00 -
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probably 90% of people who get scammed let greed get the better of them in one way or another.
I find intellectual PvP/social engineering rather lame however, and it's proponents lacking in both the intellect and the social. Could you please stop clogging the market/contracts up with spurious buy/sell orders?
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Necronomicon
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.16 11:16:00 -
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first rule of contracting is select all regions, select (in any order) Macherial, Navy Issue, modified, then scroll to the bottom of the results, and ADD TO IGNORED for all the WTB at silly prices.
Job done.
Carlsberg dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.16 11:47:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 16/08/2007 11:49:03
contracts have been nurfed down to oblivion. if you still get scammed i call that darwin at work.
even the [mineral]x[unbelievable big amount] for [unbelievable low price] scam was rather obvious, when it was introduced, and you really had to look a lot harder than you need to do today.
Pictures, colored text, and a player-made description thats way harder to notice than the engine-generated text make it nigh impossible to get scammed unless you are under heavy medication. Or just a bit... slow by default.
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