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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.08.16 06:30:00 -
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I can recall a "database dump" from long time ago, listing number of battleships in existance (and not quite sure about other ship types, can't recall if BCs and freighters made the statistics or not). Can we get a new datadump, this time including not only BSs/freighters, but also dreads, carriers, MSs and maybe even titans (if that last one is not "a secret") ?
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Callthetruth
Caldari Drunken Ratbags Inc New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.08.16 06:38:00 -
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total number of titans in existance would be ok
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.08.16 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Moved topic from GD -Sahwoolo
Err, it's a database/statistical issue, not a "which ship is better" or "how do I fit them" issue. You know, same as "how many subscribers are there now" or something like that. It belonged in GD, not here.
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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
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Posted - 2007.08.16 07:11:00 -
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dont discuss - > mail (mods@ccp-something)
Bump for a good topic - I'm a nice guy!!
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3nkil
The Chocolate Factory
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Posted - 2007.08.16 07:28:00 -
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Edited by: 3nkil on 16/08/2007 07:29:40 Edited by: 3nkil on 16/08/2007 07:29:37 Edited by: 3nkil on 16/08/2007 07:29:33 Edited by: 3nkil on 16/08/2007 07:29:29 Edited by: 3nkil on 16/08/2007 07:29:25 Edited by: 3nkil on 16/08/2007 07:29:21 Edited by: 3nkil on 16/08/2007 07:29:17 Edited by: 3nkil on 16/08/2007 07:29:13 Edited by: 3nkil on 16/08/2007 07:29:09 Edited by: 3nkil on 16/08/2007 07:29:05 Edited by: 3nkil on 16/08/2007 07:29:01 Edited by: 3nkil on 16/08/2007 07:28:56 Edited by: 3nkil on 16/08/2007 07:28:51 Edited by: 3nkil on 16/08/2007 07:28:45 Edited by: 3nkil on 16/08/2007 07:28:24 mod is a BLANK BLANK if he thinks this needs to be in ship/mods
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Ivan Kirilenkov
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.08.16 10:28:00 -
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Topic moved back to GD as it belongs here; but in the future, if you disagree with a move, email us instead please.
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Brutor Shaun
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Posted - 2007.08.16 10:43:00 -
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I would actually like to see a full demographic breakdown of the game. Ship numbers, racial proportion, isk spent per day, and other totally irrelevant but interesting stuff.
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Bianca Thorne
Caldari Kumogakure-Do
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Posted - 2007.08.16 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Brutor Shaun I would actually like to see a full demographic breakdown of the game. Ship numbers, racial proportion, isk spent per day, and other totally irrelevant but interesting stuff.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.08.16 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Bianca Thorne
Originally by: Brutor Shaun I would actually like to see a full demographic breakdown of the game. Ship numbers, racial proportion, isk spent per day, and other totally irrelevant but interesting stuff.
/signed 
you mean to make the market a no brainer hmm no
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Brutor Shaun
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Posted - 2007.08.16 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira
Originally by: Bianca Thorne
Originally by: Brutor Shaun I would actually like to see a full demographic breakdown of the game. Ship numbers, racial proportion, isk spent per day, and other totally irrelevant but interesting stuff.
/signed 
you mean to make the market a no brainer hmm no
Who rattled your cage?
example:- 6000 battleships in the game, 12 billion spent on average per day, 45% caldari.
Great, that makes the market soooooo much easier. Read the posts or STFU.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.08.16 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Brutor Shaun
Originally by: SiJira
Originally by: Bianca Thorne
Originally by: Brutor Shaun I would actually like to see a full demographic breakdown of the game. Ship numbers, racial proportion, isk spent per day, and other totally irrelevant but interesting stuff.
/signed 
you mean to make the market a no brainer hmm no
Who rattled your cage?
example:- 6000 battleships in the game, 12 billion spent on average per day, 45% caldari.
Great, that makes the market soooooo much easier. Read the posts or STFU.
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Mashie Saldana
Hooligans Of War
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Posted - 2007.08.16 11:04:00 -
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It would be fun with some more random stats from the database.
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Gunney McGunner
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.16 11:32:00 -
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This would be very interesting
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Major Stallion
Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.08.16 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira
Originally by: Bianca Thorne
Originally by: Brutor Shaun I would actually like to see a full demographic breakdown of the game. Ship numbers, racial proportion, isk spent per day, and other totally irrelevant but interesting stuff.
/signed 
you mean to make the market a no brainer hmm no
kill the market? seriously, how would a stat like how many ships exist make the market a no brainer??
Ive played a number of games in which the devs post database dumps on stats and it doesnt destroy the gameplay aspect at all. You make it like this presents some sort of metagmaing, when it doesnt.
Tbh this is the only game ive ever played that doesnt give out regular statistics.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.08.16 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Major Stallion
Originally by: SiJira
Originally by: Bianca Thorne
Originally by: Brutor Shaun I would actually like to see a full demographic breakdown of the game. Ship numbers, racial proportion, isk spent per day, and other totally irrelevant but interesting stuff.
/signed 
you mean to make the market a no brainer hmm no
kill the market? seriously, how would a stat like how many ships exist make the market a no brainer??
Ive played a number of games in which the devs post database dumps on stats and it doesnt destroy the gameplay aspect at all. You make it like this presents some sort of metagmaing, when it doesnt.
Tbh this is the only game ive ever played that doesnt give out regular statistics.
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.16 17:24:00 -
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Wouldn't it be possible for the individual players themselves to come up with these statistics without the help of CCP? We've already got a lot of similar stuff going on with individual players taking it upon themselves to present maps, statistics, charts, graphs, outpost listings and other goodies. ---
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Ki Tarra
Caldari Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.16 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: cal nereus Wouldn't it be possible for the individual players themselves to come up with these statistics without the help of CCP?
No. There is no function in the API for me to check what ships and items you own. Nor should there be.
The only way this is going to happen is if CCP publishes it.
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.16 18:30:00 -
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Well, I don't mean getting accurate statistics. Just getting statistics. Like, there are eight Titans. I can't really verify this and it has the potential for error, but it is close to the truth. Not that different from most statistics IRL TBQH. ---
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.16 18:30:00 -
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Well, I don't mean getting accurate statistics. Just getting statistics. Like, there are eight Titans. I can't really verify this and it has the potential for error, but it is close to the truth. Not that different from most statistics IRL TBQH. ---
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.16 18:30:00 -
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Well, I don't mean getting accurate statistics. Just getting statistics. Like, there are eight Titans. I can't really verify this and it has the potential for error, but it is close to the truth. Not that different from most statistics IRL TBQH. ---
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.08.16 20:12:00 -
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Well, titans are the only ship class where players might be able to make a rough guess as to how many there are (due to the 50-ish bil worth of build cost, their numbers shouldn't be too high), and our best guess at the moment is 8 titans (11 confirmed built, 3 confirmed kills). Of course, more titans might exist that we don't know about, but I'm sure we would have heard of a titan loss.
However, move on into the "mothership" class and you get very fuzzy results. Sure, the 15-ish bil minimal pricetag ain't peanuts (and you need much more ISK invested to actually build one, comparable to titan overhead anyway), still, I would be hard-pressed to make an informed guess as to how many are in service. Is it 30 motherships ? 50 ? 100 ? I have no clue, and it would be fun to know.
Move down even more, in the dread/carrier area, and you get a lot fuzzier. A dread costs 1.5 bil-ish, and a carrier 0.8 bil-ish... and they're a lot easier to manufacture, because they don't require soveraignty (you can just do it in a lowsec empire station, for instance). How many dreads/carriers are there in existance, built and not destroyed yet ? I could say 500, I could say 2000, none of us would be the wiser.
Move down in the battleship class, and it gets really messy. I recall the quoted number in the last statistic to somewhere around 10k battleships. Well, I have no idea about you, but almost everybody I know (even 3-month old chars) owns at least one battleship if not several of them, and I see countless battleships on sale in market orders. How many battleships do you think there are in the game right now then ? 30k ? 50k ? 100k ? More ? Less ? Any idea ? Well, I don't, so that's why I'm asking somebody who can answer... the devs 
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.08.16 20:12:00 -
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Well, titans are the only ship class where players might be able to make a rough guess as to how many there are (due to the 50-ish bil worth of build cost, their numbers shouldn't be too high), and our best guess at the moment is 8 titans (11 confirmed built, 3 confirmed kills). Of course, more titans might exist that we don't know about, but I'm sure we would have heard of a titan loss.
However, move on into the "mothership" class and you get very fuzzy results. Sure, the 15-ish bil minimal pricetag ain't peanuts (and you need much more ISK invested to actually build one, comparable to titan overhead anyway), still, I would be hard-pressed to make an informed guess as to how many are in service. Is it 30 motherships ? 50 ? 100 ? I have no clue, and it would be fun to know.
Move down even more, in the dread/carrier area, and you get a lot fuzzier. A dread costs 1.5 bil-ish, and a carrier 0.8 bil-ish... and they're a lot easier to manufacture, because they don't require soveraignty (you can just do it in a lowsec empire station, for instance). How many dreads/carriers are there in existance, built and not destroyed yet ? I could say 500, I could say 2000, none of us would be the wiser.
Move down in the battleship class, and it gets really messy. I recall the quoted number in the last statistic to somewhere around 10k battleships. Well, I have no idea about you, but almost everybody I know (even 3-month old chars) owns at least one battleship if not several of them, and I see countless battleships on sale in market orders. How many battleships do you think there are in the game right now then ? 30k ? 50k ? 100k ? More ? Less ? Any idea ? Well, I don't, so that's why I'm asking somebody who can answer... the devs 
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.08.16 20:45:00 -
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I'd love this.
Anyone remember long ago when Concord released info on various stats? There were items like: Longest held conquerable station; Most contested station; Oldest corp; Largest Corp; etc.
Something like that would be neat to see again.
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RtoZ
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Posted - 2007.08.16 21:39:00 -
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I'm curious to know the number of capitals in the game...
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.08.17 00:41:00 -
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F'nog, yeah, such statistics would be very fun to have too.
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.08.17 06:20:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T F'nog, yeah, such statistics would be very fun to have too.
And the best part was that it was written really humorously.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.17 06:25:00 -
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I would guess something like this:
Ships used for killing npc's: 75% caldari Ships used for killing player ships: at least 50% gallente
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Raekone
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Posted - 2007.08.17 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: Brutor Shaun 45% caldari

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