Originally by: *****Monger

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Edited by: *****Monger on 16/08/2007 16:33:12
Usually when something like that happens it's to do with an unsupported refresh rate / res combination.

Before windows starts press F8 and choose safe mode.

Does it start up?
If so uninstall the card from device manager then reboot.

Can you get into windows now?

If so reload the driver and see what happens then.

W

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Originally by: kayleigh stoneheart

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try loading windows in safe mode, go into control panel and look up the graphics settings, i think u need to set windows to use the new graphics card as the default card, though u might have already done this, just a thought as i had this to begin with with my geforce 7600gs after replacing the standard one, even though i had installed the new drivers, windows still kept trying to usethe old card that wasnt there,

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Originally by: thundachronic

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If your monitor drops to standby, but it looks like the PC is still on (ie: not shut down), I would guess that you've plugged the monitor onto the 2nd gfx card socket, and not told Windows to extend the display onto that socket.

Try plugging the monitor onto the other port and see how you go.

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Originally by: Thridi

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Originally by: thundachronic

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If your monitor drops to standby, but it looks like the PC is still on (ie: not shut down), I would guess that you've plugged the monitor onto the 2nd gfx card socket, and not told Windows to extend the display onto that socket.

Try plugging the monitor onto the other port and see how you go.

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If this works i love you...

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Originally by: thundachronic

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Originally by: Thridi

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Originally by: thundachronic

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If your monitor drops to standby, but it looks like the PC is still on (ie: not shut down), I would guess that you've plugged the monitor onto the 2nd gfx card socket, and not told Windows to extend the display onto that socket.

Try plugging the monitor onto the other port and see how you go.

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If this works i love you...

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Flattering, but also slightly unsettling ;)

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Originally by: Thridi

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Originally by: thundachronic

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Originally by: Thridi

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Originally by: thundachronic

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If your monitor drops to standby, but it looks like the PC is still on (ie: not shut down), I would guess that you've plugged the monitor onto the 2nd gfx card socket, and not told Windows to extend the display onto that socket.

Try plugging the monitor onto the other port and see how you go.

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If this works i love you...

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Flattering, but also slightly unsettling ;)

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Well i just unplugged the monitor from one of the sockets (while pc was on) and plugged it into the other, the monitor went into power saving mode so i plugged it back into the other and now the monitor is back on so im not sure if that is the problem.

Im installing the catalyst drivers now and will tell you once iv done it.

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Originally by: thundachronic

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Originally by: Thridi

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Originally by: thundachronic

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Originally by: Thridi

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Originally by: thundachronic

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If your monitor drops to standby, but it looks like the PC is still on (ie: not shut down), I would guess that you've plugged the monitor onto the 2nd gfx card socket, and not told Windows to extend the display onto that socket.

Try plugging the monitor onto the other port and see how you go.

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If this works i love you...

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Flattering, but also slightly unsettling ;)

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Well i just unplugged the monitor from one of the sockets (while pc was on) and plugged it into the other, the monitor went into power saving mode so i plugged it back into the other and now the monitor is back on so im not sure if that is the problem.

Im installing the catalyst drivers now and will tell you once iv done it.

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Does your mobo have onboard graphics ? If it does then Windows will pick that as the default video output.

Here's where it becomes a serious PITA so let me know if you have on board VGA first.

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Originally by: thundachronic

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Edited by: thundachronic on 16/08/2007 18:12:35
OK, now we're getting to the part where I'm normally swearing at the PC and starting to sweat. Swig of beer, ciggy, count to 10 and take 1 step at a time.

If your mobo does have onboard gfx then just look for another blue D sub female connector close to the paraller port, or just below the PS/2 ports. If the monitor loead plugs into it, you have onboard VGA, if it doesn't, then you don't ;)

Power supply is more than adequate so I doubt it would suffer under any Windows stress when that starts to load.

The fact you said you swapped monitor sockets while the PC was on says to me that the PC hasn't shut down, so the standby mode is because something between the gfx card and the monitor isn't happy. Initial indications would lead me to agree with the original replies in that the monitor is being told to display a refresh rate or resolution it can't handle, but you said you recently reformatted so that's not likely.

You can get into safe mode, so the monitor and gfx card both work but something about Windows and it's drivers are f00king things up.

You can see that the gfx card is telling you it has 2 outputs in the display properties, hence why I thought you had the wrong socket.

At a guess I'd say your card probably has a VGA and a DVI output along with a VGA/DVI converter in the box. If you have a CRT monitor then you need to use the D shape VGA output anyway, otherwise an LCD should really be using the DVI.

Erm, try firing up in safe mode again, and go to display properties. First, tell it to display in 800*600 or whatever low res your monitor is happy with and won't flip out at. Then hit the "Identify" button to see what socket Windows thinks your monitor is plugged into. If you get the option, tell it to make this output the default output - make it primary.

edit: forgot to mention to reboot... doh


Let me know what happens :)

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Originally by: thundachronic

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Edited by: thundachronic on 16/08/2007 18:12:35
OK, now we're getting to the part where I'm normally swearing at the PC and starting to sweat. Swig of beer, ciggy, count to 10 and take 1 step at a time.

If your mobo does have onboard gfx then just look for another blue D sub female connector close to the paraller port, or just below the PS/2 ports. If the monitor loead plugs into it, you have onboard VGA, if it doesn't, then you don't ;)

Power supply is more than adequate so I doubt it would suffer under any Windows stress when that starts to load.

The fact you said you swapped monitor sockets while the PC was on says to me that the PC hasn't shut down, so the standby mode is because something between the gfx card and the monitor isn't happy. Initial indications would lead me to agree with the original replies in that the monitor is being told to display a refresh rate or resolution it can't handle, but you said you recently reformatted so that's not likely.

You can get into safe mode, so the monitor and gfx card both work but something about Windows and it's drivers are f00king things up.

You can see that the gfx card is telling you it has 2 outputs in the display properties, hence why I thought you had the wrong socket.

At a guess I'd say your card probably has a VGA and a DVI output along with a VGA/DVI converter in the box. If you have a CRT monitor then you need to use the D shape VGA output anyway, otherwise an LCD should really be using the DVI.

Erm, try firing up in safe mode again, and go to display properties. First, tell it to display in 800*600 or whatever low res your monitor is happy with and won't flip out at. Then hit the "Identify" button to see what socket Windows thinks your monitor is plugged into. If you get the option, tell it to make this output the default output - make it primary.

edit: forgot to mention to reboot... doh


Let me know what happens :)

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Originally by: Thridi

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Originally by: thundachronic

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Edited by: thundachronic on 16/08/2007 18:12:35
OK, now we're getting to the part where I'm normally swearing at the PC and starting to sweat. Swig of beer, ciggy, count to 10 and take 1 step at a time.

If your mobo does have onboard gfx then just look for another blue D sub female connector close to the paraller port, or just below the PS/2 ports. If the monitor loead plugs into it, you have onboard VGA, if it doesn't, then you don't ;)

Power supply is more than adequate so I doubt it would suffer under any Windows stress when that starts to load.

The fact you said you swapped monitor sockets while the PC was on says to me that the PC hasn't shut down, so the standby mode is because something between the gfx card and the monitor isn't happy. Initial indications would lead me to agree with the original replies in that the monitor is being told to display a refresh rate or resolution it can't handle, but you said you recently reformatted so that's not likely.

You can get into safe mode, so the monitor and gfx card both work but something about Windows and it's drivers are f00king things up.

You can see that the gfx card is telling you it has 2 outputs in the display properties, hence why I thought you had the wrong socket.

At a guess I'd say your card probably has a VGA and a DVI output along with a VGA/DVI converter in the box. If you have a CRT monitor then you need to use the D shape VGA output anyway, otherwise an LCD should really be using the DVI.

Erm, try firing up in safe mode again, and go to display properties. First, tell it to display in 800*600 or whatever low res your monitor is happy with and won't flip out at. Then hit the "Identify" button to see what socket Windows thinks your monitor is plugged into. If you get the option, tell it to make this output the default output - make it primary.

edit: forgot to mention to reboot... doh


Let me know what happens :)

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Not sure if this will help.

I just went into safe mode, removed the drivers, started windows normally.

I then went through the installation process manually, i installed my monitor properly, i then installed the primary x1950 Pro driver, then just as i installed the x1950 pro secondary driver the monitor went off into 'power saving'

I really dont have a clue lol :)

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Originally by: Belloc Slunv

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Originally by: Thridi

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Originally by: thundachronic

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Edited by: thundachronic on 16/08/2007 18:12:35
OK, now we're getting to the part where I'm normally swearing at the PC and starting to sweat. Swig of beer, ciggy, count to 10 and take 1 step at a time.

If your mobo does have onboard gfx then just look for another blue D sub female connector close to the paraller port, or just below the PS/2 ports. If the monitor loead plugs into it, you have onboard VGA, if it doesn't, then you don't ;)

Power supply is more than adequate so I doubt it would suffer under any Windows stress when that starts to load.

The fact you said you swapped monitor sockets while the PC was on says to me that the PC hasn't shut down, so the standby mode is because something between the gfx card and the monitor isn't happy. Initial indications would lead me to agree with the original replies in that the monitor is being told to display a refresh rate or resolution it can't handle, but you said you recently reformatted so that's not likely.

You can get into safe mode, so the monitor and gfx card both work but something about Windows and it's drivers are f00king things up.

You can see that the gfx card is telling you it has 2 outputs in the display properties, hence why I thought you had the wrong socket.

At a guess I'd say your card probably has a VGA and a DVI output along with a VGA/DVI converter in the box. If you have a CRT monitor then you need to use the D shape VGA output anyway, otherwise an LCD should really be using the DVI.

Erm, try firing up in safe mode again, and go to display properties. First, tell it to display in 800*600 or whatever low res your monitor is happy with and won't flip out at. Then hit the "Identify" button to see what socket Windows thinks your monitor is plugged into. If you get the option, tell it to make this output the default output - make it primary.

edit: forgot to mention to reboot... doh


Let me know what happens :)

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Not sure if this will help.

I just went into safe mode, removed the drivers, started windows normally.

I then went through the installation process manually, i installed my monitor properly, i then installed the primary x1950 Pro driver, then just as i installed the x1950 pro secondary driver the monitor went off into 'power saving'

I really dont have a clue lol :)

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Don't install the pro secondary drivers and see if it works?

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Originally by: Belloc Slunv

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Originally by: Thridi

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Originally by: thundachronic

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Edited by: thundachronic on 16/08/2007 18:12:35
OK, now we're getting to the part where I'm normally swearing at the PC and starting to sweat. Swig of beer, ciggy, count to 10 and take 1 step at a time.

If your mobo does have onboard gfx then just look for another blue D sub female connector close to the paraller port, or just below the PS/2 ports. If the monitor loead plugs into it, you have onboard VGA, if it doesn't, then you don't ;)

Power supply is more than adequate so I doubt it would suffer under any Windows stress when that starts to load.

The fact you said you swapped monitor sockets while the PC was on says to me that the PC hasn't shut down, so the standby mode is because something between the gfx card and the monitor isn't happy. Initial indications would lead me to agree with the original replies in that the monitor is being told to display a refresh rate or resolution it can't handle, but you said you recently reformatted so that's not likely.

You can get into safe mode, so the monitor and gfx card both work but something about Windows and it's drivers are f00king things up.

You can see that the gfx card is telling you it has 2 outputs in the display properties, hence why I thought you had the wrong socket.

At a guess I'd say your card probably has a VGA and a DVI output along with a VGA/DVI converter in the box. If you have a CRT monitor then you need to use the D shape VGA output anyway, otherwise an LCD should really be using the DVI.

Erm, try firing up in safe mode again, and go to display properties. First, tell it to display in 800*600 or whatever low res your monitor is happy with and won't flip out at. Then hit the "Identify" button to see what socket Windows thinks your monitor is plugged into. If you get the option, tell it to make this output the default output - make it primary.

edit: forgot to mention to reboot... doh


Let me know what happens :)

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Not sure if this will help.

I just went into safe mode, removed the drivers, started windows normally.

I then went through the installation process manually, i installed my monitor properly, i then installed the primary x1950 Pro driver, then just as i installed the x1950 pro secondary driver the monitor went off into 'power saving'

I really dont have a clue lol :)

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Don't install the pro secondary drivers and see if it works?

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Originally by: Blue Binary

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I had the same problem with my X1950pro and the AsRock 4CoreDual-VSTA motherboard. My motherboard has a similar northbridge/southbridge (K8T800 Ultra/VT8237a) as the A8V (K8T800 Pro/VT8237). The symptoms were the same as yours, except the hard drives would power down and the graphics card fan would run at full speed.

I solved the problem by flashing the BIOS to the latest version. Also, i disabled all power saving functions in the BIOS and through Windows "Control Panel --> Power Options".

Make sure your display settings had detected your monitor properly and check that the option for "hide modes that this monitor cannot display" is enabled on the monitor tab.

Make sure your motherboard drivers are up to date. You can get them here (VIA), as ASUS had discontinued the model.

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Originally by: Blue Binary

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I had the same problem with my X1950pro and the AsRock 4CoreDual-VSTA motherboard. My motherboard has a similar northbridge/southbridge (K8T800 Ultra/VT8237a) as the A8V (K8T800 Pro/VT8237). The symptoms were the same as yours, except the hard drives would power down and the graphics card fan would run at full speed.

I solved the problem by flashing the BIOS to the latest version. Also, i disabled all power saving functions in the BIOS and through Windows "Control Panel --> Power Options".

Make sure your display settings had detected your monitor properly and check that the option for "hide modes that this monitor cannot display" is enabled on the monitor tab.

Make sure your motherboard drivers are up to date. You can get them here (VIA), as ASUS had discontinued the model.

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Originally by: Thridi

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Originally by: Blue Binary

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I had the same problem with my X1950pro and the AsRock 4CoreDual-VSTA motherboard...

...Make sure your motherboard drivers are up to date. You can get them here (VIA), as ASUS had discontinued the model.

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Can you point out the bios file for me please? I cant seem to find it lol :P

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Originally by: Thridi

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Originally by: Blue Binary

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I had the same problem with my X1950pro and the AsRock 4CoreDual-VSTA motherboard...

...Make sure your motherboard drivers are up to date. You can get them here (VIA), as ASUS had discontinued the model.

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Can you point out the bios file for me please? I cant seem to find it lol :P

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Originally by: Blue Binary

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Edited by: Blue Binary on 16/08/2007 19:07:53

Originally by: Thridi

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Originally by: Blue Binary

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I had the same problem with my X1950pro and the AsRock 4CoreDual-VSTA motherboard...

...Make sure your motherboard drivers are up to date. You can get them here (VIA), as ASUS had discontinued the model.

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Can you point out the bios file for me please? I cant seem to find it lol :P

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Select the download option of your motherboard (vanilla A8V?). There is a BIOS dated June 2007 there.

EDIT: Be VERY careful when flash it. Read the instructions.

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Originally by: Thridi

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Originally by: Blue Binary

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Edited by: Blue Binary on 16/08/2007 19:07:53

Originally by: Thridi

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Originally by: Blue Binary

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I had the same problem with my X1950pro and the AsRock 4CoreDual-VSTA motherboard...

...Make sure your motherboard drivers are up to date. You can get them here (VIA), as ASUS had discontinued the model.

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Can you point out the bios file for me please? I cant seem to find it lol :P

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Select the download option of your motherboard (vanilla A8V?). There is a BIOS dated June 2007 there.

EDIT: Be VERY careful when flash it. Read the instructions.

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Iv allready flashed to that bios, should i install the hyperion drivers also?

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Originally by: Blue Binary

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Originally by: Thridi

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Originally by: Blue Binary

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Edited by: Blue Binary on 16/08/2007 19:07:53

Originally by: Thridi

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Originally by: Blue Binary

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I had the same problem with my X1950pro and the AsRock 4CoreDual-VSTA motherboard...

...Make sure your motherboard drivers are up to date. You can get them here (VIA), as ASUS had discontinued the model.

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Can you point out the bios file for me please? I cant seem to find it lol :P

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Select the download option of your motherboard (vanilla A8V?). There is a BIOS dated June 2007 there.

EDIT: Be VERY careful when flash it. Read the instructions.

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Iv allready flashed to that bios, should i install the hyperion drivers also?

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Yes, they will auto install for you when you run it. Try the other solutions i provided as well Thridi.

IIRC the latest Hyperion version is 5.12A.

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Originally by: Thridi

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EDIT: Be VSorry for being a pain but can you give me a bit more in depth information on disabling the power settings in the bios please?

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Originally by: Blue Binary

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Originally by: Thridi

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EDIT: Be VSorry for being a pain but can you give me a bit more in depth information on disabling the power settings in the bios please?

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I'm not familiar wuth navigating an A8V bios. Use the cursor keys to find an option for power saving or similar named option, it's there somewhere.

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Originally by: Thridi

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Edited by: Thridi on 16/08/2007 19:34:07

Originally by: Blue Binary

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Originally by: Thridi

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EDIT: Be VSorry for being a pain but can you give me a bit more in depth information on disabling the power settings in the bios please?

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I'm not familiar wuth navigating an A8V bios. Use the cursor keys to find an option for power saving or similar named option, it's there somewhere.

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Options Are

[Suspend Mode] > [S1(POS) & S3(STR)] or S1(POS) Only
Repost Video on S3 Resume on/off
ACPT Support Enable/Disable
ACPT APIC Support Enable/Disable

[APM Config > Power Management/APM Enable/Disable

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Originally by: Mashie Saldana

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I would replace the powersupply ASAP, it is quite likely the reason for your instability. Qtec is the lowest quality PSU brand known to man.

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Originally by: Mashie Saldana

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I would replace the powersupply ASAP, it is quite likely the reason for your instability. Qtec is the lowest quality PSU brand known to man.

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Originally by: Mashie Saldana

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I would replace the powersupply ASAP, it is quite likely the reason for your instability. Qtec is the lowest quality PSU brand known to man.

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Originally by: Aaron

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Just a few thoughts,

- install motherboard drivers
- obtain latest gcard drivers
- upgrage XP to service pack 2
- install direct X
- install sata/raid software (if any)
- flash the Bios
- set motherboard settings to default
- review BIOS graphics settings, and ensure its set correctly
- Goto google groups (Ive fixed many PC problems there)

Alternatively, Send me your dump file I have some software that can analyse it and tell me precicely what when wrong before the system shutdown, im not sure if a dump file has even been created for your recent errors but it is worth a shot.

To get dump file;

1, goto start
2, select run
3, paste %SystemRoot%\Minidump into the field, and select ok.
4, if you get a list of files sort them in date order and send me the most recent.

leave a message for me ingame and i will send you my real life email address.

If your PC did create a dump file we can fix this buddy.



From what your saying it sounds like the graphics card issue

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Originally by: Aaron

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Just a few thoughts,

- install motherboard drivers
- obtain latest gcard drivers
- upgrage XP to service pack 2
- install direct X
- install sata/raid software (if any)
- flash the Bios
- set motherboard settings to default
- review BIOS graphics settings, and ensure its set correctly
- Goto google groups (Ive fixed many PC problems there)

Alternatively, Send me your dump file I have some software that can analyse it and tell me precicely what when wrong before the system shutdown, im not sure if a dump file has even been created for your recent errors but it is worth a shot.

To get dump file;

1, goto start
2, select run
3, paste %SystemRoot%\Minidump into the field, and select ok.
4, if you get a list of files sort them in date order and send me the most recent.

leave a message for me ingame and i will send you my real life email address.

If your PC did create a dump file we can fix this buddy.



From what your saying it sounds like the graphics card issue

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Originally by: Aaron

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Just a few thoughts,

- install motherboard drivers
- obtain latest gcard drivers
- upgrage XP to service pack 2
- install direct X
- install sata/raid software (if any)
- flash the Bios
- set motherboard settings to default
- review BIOS graphics settings, and ensure its set correctly
- Goto google groups (Ive fixed many PC problems there)

Alternatively, Send me your dump file I have some software that can analyse it and tell me precicely what when wrong before the system shutdown, im not sure if a dump file has even been created for your recent errors but it is worth a shot.

To get dump file;

1, goto start
2, select run
3, paste %SystemRoot%\Minidump into the field, and select ok.
4, if you get a list of files sort them in date order and send me the most recent.

leave a message for me ingame and i will send you my real life email address.

If your PC did create a dump file we can fix this buddy.



From what your saying it sounds like the graphics card issue

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Originally by: Aaron

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mailing you now...

if your gcard is pci-express, does it has a 6 slot power conecctor?

does your motherboard have a power slot specifically for the gcard?, normally the 4pin power connector that goes into an IDE HDD will fit into this slot, it is normally found at the bottom of your motherboard, tell me the exact name of you motherboard.

If you dont know it, install this software;

http://www.filehippo.com/download_everest_home/

it analyses all the hardware on your pc, and gives you exact names and where to get the latest drivers from. |Use this to tell me the name of your motherboard.

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Originally by: Aaron

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mailing you now...

if your gcard is pci-express, does it has a 6 slot power conecctor?

does your motherboard have a power slot specifically for the gcard?, normally the 4pin power connector that goes into an IDE HDD will fit into this slot, it is normally found at the bottom of your motherboard, tell me the exact name of you motherboard.

If you dont know it, install this software;

http://www.filehippo.com/download_everest_home/

it analyses all the hardware on your pc, and gives you exact names and where to get the latest drivers from. |Use this to tell me the name of your motherboard.

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Originally by: Thridi

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Thank you Thunda,

I dont have directx9 installed, could that be the problem?

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Originally by: Thridi

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Thank you Thunda,

I dont have directx9 installed, could that be the problem?

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Originally by: Thridi

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I cant make the dump file, it says file cannot be found.

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Originally by: Thridi

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IF the card was dead, what would the symptoms be please?

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Originally by: Thridi

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Originally by: Aaron

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Just a few thoughts,

- install motherboard drivers
- obtain latest gcard drivers
- upgrage XP to service pack 2
- install direct X
- install sata/raid software (if any)
- flash the Bios
- set motherboard settings to default
- review BIOS graphics settings, and ensure its set correctly

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Has all of this been done?

Originally by: Rolly Polly

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Now I'm assuming the track you're on allready is the correct one, I'd still like to know though; what monitor have you?

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Originally by: Thridi

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Originally by: Aaron

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mailing you now...

if your gcard is pci-express, does it has a 6 slot power conecctor?

does your motherboard have a power slot specifically for the gcard?, normally the 4pin power connector that goes into an IDE HDD will fit into this slot, it is normally found at the bottom of your motherboard, tell me the exact name of you motherboard.

If you dont know it, install this software;

http://www.filehippo.com/download_everest_home/

it analyses all the hardware on your pc, and gives you exact names and where to get the latest drivers from. |Use this to tell me the name of your motherboard.

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Its an AGP card, my motherboard is Asus a8v with the via k8t800pro/vt8237 chipset.

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Originally by: Thridi

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I havent touched anything in my BIOS yet, but i did everything else.
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I quickly read through your replyÆs, I thought I seen you say you had a onboard video card on the motherboard? If this wrong, please just dis-guard this part of the post.

If you do have a onboard video card, step one would be to go into the bios and disable the on board video, because leaving it on will cause a conflict with the video card your installing.

The next thing is, what kind of monitor are you using? Make sure the monitor you have can support the res youÆre trying to use.

After all that, if the 1950 has a dvi port on back (which it should), you should have a little adapter that came with your video card if you didnÆt buy it as a(OEM). Put the dvi to svga adapter on the dvi port and then run your monitor that way. Even though you have 2 monitor ports in the back of the card, you might have to run it in the primary port (dvi).