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Cornucopian Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.17 08:53:00 - [1] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/08/16/scispeed116.xml I don't know if the telegraph is a very reputable paper, but hey, it sounds somewhat feasable.... and the sci-fi nerds knew all along that it was possible! yay! ----------------------------------------------- "Yes... I sleep with my myrmidon. It's nothing to be ashamed of!"

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2007.08.17 08:57:00 - [2] We podpilots have been breaking the lightspeed for years now Help me help you .

Gaven Blands	Posted - 2007.08.17 09:21:00 - [3] I bet I can find more than 6 paragraphs on Beckham scoring his first goal for whatever club he plays for now... This article causes me to recall Shaun of the Dead, where he steps out to the shop and everybody has been turned into zombies, but he doesn't even notice because human beings are generally so banal and uninteresting anyway. I hope the LHC does actually end the world when they switch it on. 1 in 50 million chance they reckon. Well I feel lucky. And now back to cuddly comfort, freedom, dollars and happy families. Next, American Gladiators... back to sleep with you. Yes. I do feel this way about it.
Kenneys RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.17 09:31:00 - [4] Uhh they're just demonstrating quantum entanglement. (AKA Quantum teleportation) It's been done about a decade ago. It's not breaking news. Example: If i hold two balls, one a yellow, one a blue in both my hands. I show you one, and it's blue, you know for a fact the other is yellow. Quantum entanglement is very close to that example, except that if both of the balls had another property, let's say hard or soft, we do not know if it will be hard or soft when that color is revealed.
Cornucopian Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.17 09:38:00 - [5] not entanglement, quantum tunneling, which is different... http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0708/0708.0681.pdf check it out. seems like no one gives a damn though.... oh well... go back to watching oprah then mediocre masses... ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt you sad little exploiting metagamer."
Rashmika Clavain Gallente Revelation Space	Posted - 2007.08.17 09:40:00 - [6] Originally by: Gaven Blands I bet I can find more than 6 paragraphs on Beckham scoring his first goal for whatever club he plays for now... This article causes me to recall Shaun of the Dead, where he steps out to the shop and everybody has been turned into zombies, but he doesn't even notice because human beings are generally so banal and uninteresting anyway. I hope the LHC does actually end the world when they switch it on. 1 in 50 million chance they reckon. Well I feel lucky. And now back to cuddly comfort, freedom, dollars and happy families. Next, American Gladiators... back to sleep with you. Yes. I do feel this way about it. We need quaaludes, stat!
Cornucopian Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.17 09:42:00 - [7] Originally by: Rashmika Clavain Originally by: Gaven Blands I bet I can find more than 6 paragraphs on Beckham scoring his first goal for whatever club he plays for now... This article causes me to recall Shaun of the Dead, where he steps out to the shop and everybody has been turned into zombies, but he doesn't even notice because human beings are generally so banal and uninteresting anyway. I hope the LHC does actually end the world when they switch it on. 1 in 50 million chance they reckon. Well I feel lucky. And now back to cuddly comfort, freedom, dollars and happy families. Next, American Gladiators... back to sleep with you. Yes. I do feel this way about it. We need quaaludes, stat! yeah what DID that guy mean by that post anyway?? VALIUM, OVER HERE!!! ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt you sad little exploiting metagamer."
T Than	Posted - 2007.08.17 09:53:00 - [8] Originally by: Cornucopian Originally by: Rashmika Clavain Originally by: Gaven Blands I bet I can find more than 6 paragraphs on Beckham scoring his first goal for whatever club he plays for now... This article causes me to recall Shaun of the Dead, where he steps out to the shop and everybody has been turned into zombies, but he doesn't even notice because human beings are generally so banal and uninteresting anyway. I hope the LHC does actually end the world when they switch it on. 1 in 50 million chance they reckon. Well I feel lucky. And now back to cuddly comfort, freedom, dollars and happy families. Next, American Gladiators... back to sleep with you. Yes. I do feel this way about it. We need quaaludes, stat! yeah what DID that guy mean by that post anyway?? VALIUM, OVER HERE!!! i doubt valium will help him. but if you give it to me it will lesson the trauma of having tried to understand it.
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.17 13:09:00 - [9] Sigh. One can get from A to B faster than the speed of light, thats what the whole wormhole thing is about. One CAN NOT get from A to B faster than the speed of light while passing all points in between of A and B. Thread over
ThaMa Gebir Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.08.17 13:26:00 - [10] Originally by: Sokratesz Sigh. One can get from A to B faster than the speed of light, thats what the whole wormhole thing is about. One CAN NOT get from A to B faster than the speed of light while passing all points in between of A and B. Thread over That makes, funnily enough, a lot of sense... ---------------------------- Confirmed heaviest member of RDEX........ Hah, no more hijacks here.
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.08.17 14:00:00 - [11] Originally by: Sokratesz Sigh. One can get from A to B faster than the speed of light, thats what the whole wormhole thing is about. One CAN NOT get from A to B faster than the speed of light while passing all points in between of A and B. Thread over I think we forgot to tell that to the Neutrinos that spew out of black holes at slightly FTL speeds. ------------ Whiners - Unite! Tarminic - 26 Million SP in Forum Warfare.
El Berto Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.08.17 14:07:00 - [12] Pretty awesome to demonstrate but pretty useless as well as there is no information transmitted. Wasn't this done about 10years ago too? Also this paper hasn't been peer reviewed. Originally by: Gaven Blands I bet I can find more than 6 paragraphs on Beckham scoring his first goal for whatever club he plays for now... This article causes me to recall Shaun of the Dead, where he steps out to the shop and everybody has been turned into zombies, but he doesn't even notice because human beings are generally so banal and uninteresting anyway. I hope the LHC does actually end the world when they switch it on. 1 in 50 million chance they reckon. Well I feel lucky. And now back to cuddly comfort, freedom, dollars and happy families. Next, American Gladiators... back to sleep with you. Yes. I do feel this way about it. Although misanthropy is fun remember It's Just A Ride
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.17 20:05:00 - [13] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Sokratesz Sigh. One can get from A to B faster than the speed of light, thats what the whole wormhole thing is about. One CAN NOT get from A to B faster than the speed of light while passing all points in between of A and B. Thread over I think we forgot to tell that to the Neutrinos that spew out of black holes at slightly FTL speeds. Did they leave the hypothetical stage already? Last i time i checked they werent sure whether it was a wave, a particle, both, something else, or a combination of the former
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.17 20:27:00 - [14] Edited by: Grimpak on 17/08/2007 20:27:17 Originally by: Sokratesz Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Sokratesz Sigh. One can get from A to B faster than the speed of light, thats what the whole wormhole thing is about. One CAN NOT get from A to B faster than the speed of light while passing all points in between of A and B. Thread over I think we forgot to tell that to the Neutrinos that spew out of black holes at slightly FTL speeds. Did they leave the hypothetical stage already? Last i time i checked they werent sure whether it was a wave, a particle, both, something else, or a combination of the former maybe it's a "Schr÷dinger's cat" phenomenom. ...quantum physics are really weird tbh. --- truth about EVE: Quote: "Guns are fine, boost players" Quote: "Players are fine, boost guns"
Tsadkiel	Posted - 2007.08.18 00:05:00 - [15] Edited by: Tsadkiel on 18/08/2007 00:05:43 here is a link to the paper in question... http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0708/0708.0681.pdf the first thing i would like to point out is that there is absolutely no experimental data contained in the paper. no evidence presented... second is that the experimental setup is explained with minimum detail. they state in the paper that they measured the arrival time for the light pulses and drew their conclusions from that. the problem is to make a single measurement on the arrival time of a light pulse is to measure the group (or packet) velocity of the light, not the speed of light its self! because their setup is vague, it is completely possible that they measured this out of a vacuum, which would make the effect no too dissimilar to Cherenkov radiation, a phenomena well within the current laws of physics describing superluminal packet velocities for particles traversing a specific medium. finally, and most importantly, is their use of an evanescent wave model to describe this "teleportation" effect. strictly speaking, an evanescent wave is a standing wave of light that can only occur over very short distances. by its very nature it needs to be described mathematically with imaginary quantities (WHICH DOES NOT MAKE IT ANY LESS REAL). physically, such standing waves have an inherent velocity of zero and carry no energy/information. to say that an evanescent wave transmits information instantly is like saying that the parked car travels so fast you just don't notice it. the breakdown occurs when one tries to describe a mathematically imaginary system with real functions.

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