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Nvermind
Nvermind Inc.
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Posted - 2012.01.15 13:38:00 -
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Hello All,
just a quick check but, didn't the forums used to be where discussion of the game took place? Seems that in the last year it has disintegrated into a non-stop slanging match instead.
I've been lurking in the forums for the last week or so, and not once have I seen anyone provide any examples or evidence for a point of view - it all revolves around "lol stfu noob - I lov ur tearz" or "DIAF!" or "I hate this thing wot you lieke, so I hate you k?" It's hopeless and totally unhelpful at a time when the DEV's are clearly trying to find a new way forward.
Honestly, if any of you actually enjoyed the game you'd be coming up with a way to help those with questions rather than insulting them. If you really thought you had a better way of doing things you'd be in features and discussions or the CSM area, rather than here saying one-liners like "I h8's local/cloaky/allianzes/blobz dev rsponse pls nw k tnks".
Whatever, I hope this all works out as there is simply no other game out there like EvE. But's it's dying of a thousand small cuts at the moment and the playerbase - at lease that portion represented on these forums - seem to me to be of zero help to anyone, and in some cases appear to have an account purely to troll other players.
Meh. Best of luck - I'll be paying my sub to fly in spaceships and keeping my fingers crossed. |

Sara XIII
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2012.01.15 13:45:00 -
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There is great stuff to be had in other sections. Warfare and Tactics is a great spot for example. General Discussion....not so much.  |

Atticus Fynch
333
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Posted - 2012.01.15 13:51:00 -
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I agree.Just look at the reply this idiot provided when I asked about incursions:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=652499#post652499
God forbid you have an "idea. " Good or bad. This thread disintigrated quickly into personal attacks:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=57334 NeX needs hats. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=652239&#post652239 |

Zimmy Zeta
Battle Force Industries Tactical Invader Syndicate
669
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Posted - 2012.01.15 14:03:00 -
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Nvermind wrote:Hello All,
just a quick check but, didn't the forums used to be where discussion of the game took place? Seems that in the last year it has disintegrated into a non-stop slanging match instead.
I've been lurking in the forums for the last week or so, and not once have I seen anyone provide any examples or evidence for a point of view - it all revolves around "lol stfu noob - I lov ur tearz" or "DIAF!" or "I hate this thing wot you lieke, so I hate you k?" It's hopeless and totally unhelpful at a time when the DEV's are clearly trying to find a new way forward.
Honestly, if any of you actually enjoyed the game you'd be coming up with a way to help those with questions rather than insulting them. If you really thought you had a better way of doing things you'd be in features and discussions or the CSM area, rather than here saying one-liners like "I h8's local/cloaky/allianzes/blobz dev rsponse pls nw k tnks".
Whatever, I hope this all works out as there is simply no other game out there like EvE. But's it's dying of a thousand small cuts at the moment and the playerbase - at lease that portion represented on these forums - seem to me to be of zero help to anyone, and in some cases appear to have an account purely to troll other players.
Meh. Best of luck - I'll be paying my sub to fly in spaceships and keeping my fingers crossed.
Thank you. But before accepting the award, I would also like to thank all those nice and educated people that made this possible and have been a constant source of inspiration and support. Yes, you know who, please stand up, people, this one goes out to you, this is your applause! Thank you, thank you so very much..... (sniff) Apparently my work here is done and I for one can now finally ride into the sunset to face other challenges. Maybe Dyslexia forum ... or rather the Phobia forum? There is still lots of work for me to do and I am proud and happy that my contibution here hasn't gone unnoticed.
Thanks again!
XoXoXo
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
120
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Posted - 2012.01.15 14:03:00 -
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What happened?
That an emergent game for 30k subscriptions went more mainstream and got 10 times as many.
The more mainstream and aged a game gets, the more the baddies, trolls and other human garbage infect it. |

W1rlW1nd
The Scope Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.01.15 14:05:00 -
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Nvermind wrote:Hello All,
just a quick check but, didn't the forums used to be where discussion of the game took place? Seems that in the last year it has disintegrated into a non-stop slanging match instead.
I've been lurking in the forums for the last week or so, and not once have I seen anyone provide any examples or evidence for a point of view - it all revolves around "lol stfu noob - I lov ur tearz" or "DIAF!" or "I hate this thing wot you lieke, so I hate you k?" It's hopeless and totally unhelpful at a time when the DEV's are clearly trying to find a new way forward.
Honestly, if any of you actually enjoyed the game you'd be coming up with a way to help those with questions rather than insulting them. If you really thought you had a better way of doing things you'd be in features and discussions or the CSM area, rather than here saying one-liners like "I h8's local/cloaky/allianzes/blobz dev rsponse pls nw k tnks".
Whatever, I hope this all works out as there is simply no other game out there like EvE. But's it's dying of a thousand small cuts at the moment and the playerbase - at lease that portion represented on these forums - seem to me to be of zero help to anyone, and in some cases appear to have an account purely to troll other players.
Meh. Best of luck - I'll be paying my sub to fly in spaceships and keeping my fingers crossed.
WAT!? EGD is specifically for "lol stfu noob - I hate this thing wot you lieke"/ bitter vet slinging match... it's been like that since 2003.
If you want to discuss helpful game improvements you AREN'T even supposed to post that here, that is for the "Features and Ideas" forum.
Or if you want to help other players go lurk in the "EVE New citizens" forum.
Everything in its rightful place.
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Atticus Fynch
333
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Posted - 2012.01.15 14:08:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:What happened?
That an emergent game for 30k subscriptions went more mainstream and got 10 times as many.
The more mainstream and aged a game gets, the more the baddies, trolls and other human garbage infect it.
"The baddies?"
I like to refer to them as the clueless or the phallically-challenged.
One of my favorite replies here is "grow-up." I get that often when I post an idea.
Now think about it. You are playing imaginary internet spacships and you are asking me to grow-up?
NeX needs hats. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=652239&#post652239 |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
120
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Posted - 2012.01.15 14:13:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:What happened?
That an emergent game for 30k subscriptions went more mainstream and got 10 times as many.
The more mainstream and aged a game gets, the more the baddies, trolls and other human garbage infect it. "The baddies?" I like to refer to them as the clueless or the phallically-challenged.One of my favorite replies here is "grow-up." I get that often when I post an idea. Now think about it. You are playing imaginary internet spacships and you are asking me to grow-up?
Well, considering I learned to trade in RL after learning to trade in EvE I find this a suitable game for grown ups too.  |

Ammzi
Imperial Guardians
765
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Posted - 2012.01.15 14:14:00 -
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EGD is only for the experienced forum warriors - going in here without enough buffer/logistic support and-or the knowledge to protect yourself you will soon find yourself downgraded to an egg. Scrambled and popped. quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
16
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Posted - 2012.01.15 14:16:00 -
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In reverse order;
People are usually nicer in features and ideas. (unless your idea is truley terribad, ie. "Mining ships need to have more ehp then titans")
People don't like it when you are to lazy to do 5 minutes of your own research and just bug them about it instead, Had you done your research and were still confused about something, and posted in the right section of the forum, then you would have got better replies. |

Atticus Fynch
333
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Posted - 2012.01.15 14:23:00 -
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Grey Azorria wrote:
People don't like it when you are to lazy to do 5 minutes of your own research and just bug them about it instead, Had you done your research and were still confused about something, and posted in the right section of the forum, then you would have got better replies.
Asking about a game feature in a game forum...God forbid.
NO one is making them click and reply either. Seems everyone has a mouse with a mind of its own here, cause they just cant help but click on threads they hate.
NeX needs hats. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=652239&#post652239 |

Alara IonStorm
1419
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Posted - 2012.01.15 14:40:00 -
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I have noticed... =/
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Pinaculus
Insanely Twisted
132
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Posted - 2012.01.15 15:00:00 -
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The internet has given every moron in the western world a keyboard and complete anonymity. Some of them also play EVE. I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs. |

Halcyon Ingenium
Infomorph Research and Technology
129
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Posted - 2012.01.15 15:07:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:Grey Azorria wrote:
People don't like it when you are to lazy to do 5 minutes of your own research and just bug them about it instead, Had you done your research and were still confused about something, and posted in the right section of the forum, then you would have got better replies.
Asking about a game feature in a game forum...God forbid.  NO one is making them click and reply either. Seems everyone has a mouse with a mind of its own here, cause they just cant help but click on threads they "hate."
Yes, how dare they suggest you discuss your feature and/or idea in the forum for discussing features and/or ideas. How dare they also not show you the respect you deserve, despite being the most recent in a long line of people who also know exactly where a post belongs, forum descriptions placed just below a forum and sometimes in the forum name be damned! That which always was, and is, and will be everlasting fire, the same for all, the cosmos, made neither by god nor man, replenishes in measure as it burns away. -Heraclitus |

Atticus Fynch
333
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Posted - 2012.01.15 15:12:00 -
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Halcyon Ingenium wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote:Grey Azorria wrote:
People don't like it when you are to lazy to do 5 minutes of your own research and just bug them about it instead, Had you done your research and were still confused about something, and posted in the right section of the forum, then you would have got better replies.
Asking about a game feature in a game forum...God forbid.  NO one is making them click and reply either. Seems everyone has a mouse with a mind of its own here, cause they just cant help but click on threads they "hate." Yes, how dare they suggest you discuss your feature and/or idea in the forum for discussing features and/or ideas. How dare they also not show you the respect you deserve, despite being the most recent in a long line of people who also know exactly where a post belongs, forum descriptions placed just below a forum and sometimes in the forum name be damned!
Ladies and gentelmen, I present to you the reason this forum is so hostile: Thank you for proving my point. I said nothing about demanding "respect," but so many of you are so caught up in your own little world, you cant see the bigger picture. The game, the forum is your "home" and if it's in the least way out of order or disturbed...you throw a fit.
Like a disturbed little child...you throw a fit.
NeX needs hats. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=652239&#post652239 |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
250
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Posted - 2012.01.15 15:12:00 -
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Nvermind wrote:Hello All,
just a quick check but, didn't the forums used to be where discussion of the game took place? Seems that in the last year it has disintegrated into a non-stop slanging match instead.
It's been a non-stop slinging match since the day I started playing in Dec 2007.
Welcome to EVE-Online. OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |

Siigari Kitawa
Push Industries Push Interstellar Network
87
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Posted - 2012.01.15 15:15:00 -
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At least we aren't the League of Legends GD yet, where a person posts something only for it to fall off the first page two minutes later, and then for ANOTHER person to post EXACTLY THE SAME THING after the first post is on page 2.
Seriously, those forums are awful. If it's not on page 1 the thread died. Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Servicing highsec and lowsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX |

Ioci
Space Mermaids
58
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Posted - 2012.01.15 15:23:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Nvermind wrote:Hello All,
just a quick check but, didn't the forums used to be where discussion of the game took place? Seems that in the last year it has disintegrated into a non-stop slanging match instead.
It's been a non-stop slinging match since the day I started playing in Dec 2007. Welcome to EVE-Online.
This.
As time went by less and less try to raise the standard and either leave or just jump down in to the pit with the trolls. Lost cause. Even mods gave up.
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Atticus Fynch
333
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Posted - 2012.01.15 15:29:00 -
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Ioci wrote:Even mods gave up.
A forum is only as good as its mods. You need to be patient, even tempered and unbiased. You also have to understand that it is "work" with no end in sight. You can not make things better, you can only try to keep it from getting worse. You are alwyas fighting gravity to keep your forum from hitting bottom. You cant give up. NeX needs hats. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=652239&#post652239 |

Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
16
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Posted - 2012.01.15 15:29:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:Halcyon Ingenium wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote:Grey Azorria wrote:
People don't like it when you are to lazy to do 5 minutes of your own research and just bug them about it instead, Had you done your research and were still confused about something, and posted in the right section of the forum, then you would have got better replies.
Asking about a game feature in a game forum...God forbid.  NO one is making them click and reply either. Seems everyone has a mouse with a mind of its own here, cause they just cant help but click on threads they "hate." Yes, how dare they suggest you discuss your feature and/or idea in the forum for discussing features and/or ideas. How dare they also not show you the respect you deserve, despite being the most recent in a long line of people who also know exactly where a post belongs, forum descriptions placed just below a forum and sometimes in the forum name be damned! Ladies and gentelmen, I present to you the reason this forum is so hostile: Thank you for proving my point. I said nothing about demanding "respect," but so many of you are so caught up in your own little world, you cant see the bigger picture. The game, the forum is your "home" and if it's in the least way out of order or disturbed...you throw a fit. Like a disturbed little child...you throw a fit. Credit where credit is due, if nothing else you are determined |

Atticus Fynch
333
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Posted - 2012.01.15 15:33:00 -
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Grey Azorria wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote:Halcyon Ingenium wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote:Grey Azorria wrote:
People don't like it when you are to lazy to do 5 minutes of your own research and just bug them about it instead, Had you done your research and were still confused about something, and posted in the right section of the forum, then you would have got better replies.
Asking about a game feature in a game forum...God forbid.  NO one is making them click and reply either. Seems everyone has a mouse with a mind of its own here, cause they just cant help but click on threads they "hate." Yes, how dare they suggest you discuss your feature and/or idea in the forum for discussing features and/or ideas. How dare they also not show you the respect you deserve, despite being the most recent in a long line of people who also know exactly where a post belongs, forum descriptions placed just below a forum and sometimes in the forum name be damned! Ladies and gentelmen, I present to you the reason this forum is so hostile: Thank you for proving my point. I said nothing about demanding "respect," but so many of you are so caught up in your own little world, you cant see the bigger picture. The game, the forum is your "home" and if it's in the least way out of order or disturbed...you throw a fit. Like a disturbed little child...you throw a fit. Credit where credit is due, if nothing else you are determined
..and you are a troll that continues to prove my point. Thank You.
NeX needs hats. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=652239&#post652239 |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
99
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Posted - 2012.01.15 15:34:00 -
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http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/
This comic, summs it up nicely. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
206
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Posted - 2012.01.15 16:21:00 -
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I dunno' maybe if you didn't post every little thing that crosses your mind in GD you'd get a better reception. Maybe if you took your magnificent feature ideas to the Features and Ideas forum area where they belong you would not get your feelings hurt so much.
BTW google is your friend because the search feature here still mostly sucks.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
860
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Posted - 2012.01.15 16:25:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:Grey Azorria wrote:
People don't like it when you are to lazy to do 5 minutes of your own research and just bug them about it instead, Had you done your research and were still confused about something, and posted in the right section of the forum, then you would have got better replies.
Asking about a game feature in a game forum...God forbid.  NO one is making them click and reply either. Seems everyone has a mouse with a mind of its own here, cause they just cant help but click on threads they "hate."
using the search button before asking is SOP on every forum since the dawn of time
you are a bad poster and you should feel bad
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

ElQuirko
The Demonfuge Malevolent Fan Club
316
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Posted - 2012.01.15 16:28:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:
"The baddies?"
I like to refer to them as the clueless or the phallically-challenged.
I'm confused; don't you like to think of yourself as one of the baddies? I swear you said that somewhere.
As for the OP; tl;dr, stfu, go back to WoW, HTFU or go back to WoW, DIAF, gtfo. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
5157
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Posted - 2012.01.15 16:29:00 -
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Has anyone mentioned the morality high ground brigade yet? Now there is a great group of people, for sure. 
I particularly like it when they resort to personal attacks, whilst telling me I'm a scumbag. 
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Brock Nelson
261
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Posted - 2012.01.15 16:36:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:What happened?
That an emergent game for 30k subscriptions went more mainstream and got 10 times as many.
The more mainstream and aged a game gets, the more the baddies, trolls and other human garbage infect it.
You forgot to mention the return of those who rage quit over nothing |

Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
16
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Posted - 2012.01.15 18:33:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote: Like a disturbed little child...you throw a fit.
Hello mister Fynch,
you may not have noticed it, but you do the exact same things you accuse others off. Right here you are telling someone you don't know, that he behaves like a child ... or in other words: "to grow up".
Atticus Fynch wrote: One of my favorite replies here is "grow-up." I get that often when I post an idea.
You're getting the same comment frequently ? So surely the more often you hear it the more likely it is that the other people are in the wrong. Must be that.
Atticus Fynch wrote: Now think about it. You are playing imaginary internet spacships and you are asking me to grow-up?
And you, sir ? Have you quit yet ? |

Alara IonStorm
1423
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Posted - 2012.01.15 18:47:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Has anyone mentioned the morality high ground brigade yet? Now there is a great group of people, for sure.  I particularly like it when they resort to personal attacks, whilst telling me I'm a scumbag.  Examples are always helpful.
Atticus Fynch wrote: Ladies and gentelmen, I present to you the reason this forum is so hostile: Thank you for proving my point. I said nothing about demanding "respect," but so many of you are so caught up in your own little world, you cant see the bigger picture. The game, the forum is your "home" and if it's in the least way out of order or disturbed...you throw a fit.
Like a disturbed little child...you throw a fit.

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Atticus Fynch
335
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Posted - 2012.01.15 19:32:00 -
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Jill Xelitras wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote: Like a disturbed little child...you throw a fit.
Hello mister Fynch, you may not have noticed it, but you do the exact same things you accuse others off. Right here you are telling someone you don't know, that he behaves like a child ... or in other words: "to grow up". Atticus Fynch wrote: One of my favorite replies here is "grow-up." I get that often when I post an idea.
You're getting the same comment frequently ? So surely the more often you hear it the more likely it is that the other people are in the wrong. Must be that. Atticus Fynch wrote: Now think about it. You are playing imaginary internet spacships and you are asking me to grow-up?
And you, sir ? Have you quit yet ?
Im not the one complaining about posting on the forum nor am I telling other people to "grow up". Having some trouble with comprehesion or do you always read what you want to in other's posts? And you also have proved my point by using my comments for prersonal attack instead of addresing the topic of the thread. Thank You troll. NeX needs hats. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=652239&#post652239 |
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