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tarin adur Gallente Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.08.21 17:32:00 - [1] Edited by: tarin adur on 21/08/2007 17:32:14 With Rev 3 CCP has all these changes planned, and they're boosting the wrong ship =( Flycatcher's are Right up there with Sabres and they're still getting boosted, and now Heretic's will be more useful but what about the lowly Eris? This ship suffers from lack of a mid-slot, crap dps or moderate dps with absolutely 0 tank,a speed fit is useless as most of your targets(interceptors) will still outrun you, and then laugh as they annihilate you for a lack of a web. And the Ares, This ship can't even fit it's highs without running into powergrid problems, again 2 mids make's it less then great for PvP, and althought it can tank it won't kill anything with it's awesome dps and lack of a web. So CCP, please Remove a low from the ares,and add a mid, then give it a powergrid/cpu boost that it really needs and then remove a turret hardpoint and give it another missile hardpoint As for he eris,drop 2 missile hardpoitns,give it 2 turret hardpoints and drop a low for a mid so it can actually kill interceptors Just my 2 isk
FawKa Gallente Old Farts Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.08.21 17:40:00 - [2] I agree, these two ships made my Roden Shipyards needs around same bonuses as the new Khanid ships. Skip the turret bonus on both ships and focus on missiles together with PG issues on the Ares as allready posted.
Linavin Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.21 17:43:00 - [3] I wholeheartedly disagree, the Eris should stay crappy. Otherwise we'll have no cheap suicide shootmebecauseimcheap dictors, CCP already ruined the heretic. Oh what ever will we do if CCP boost the eris ---
MITSUK0	Posted - 2007.08.21 17:58:00 - [4] Double bubble eris of doom Leave it alone kthx. You have the Taranis for solo and the ares is just as good as the other long range intys for doing loldps and perma running the mwd + disrupter.
stopdropandlol Gallente F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.08.21 17:58:00 - [5] HEY dont talk bad about Gallente ships like that. ALL our ships are solo pwn mobiles especially the ares with its 4 weapon slots who cares if you cant fill them all there are 4 of them! and the eris its so damn cool looking it doesnt need to be a match of the other races dictors. now THATS sarcasm
Corphus Aliastra	Posted - 2007.08.21 18:03:00 - [6] agreed. i was hoping for a ares buff. tbh this ship should be either a 3 slot missle ship or a turret boat similar to the crusader using 4 guns. the split bonus system makes ships with such limited fitting options pretty weak. another option would be lowering its mass by 100000kg so it would excell at speed. give it a look balance team !
MITSUK0	Posted - 2007.08.21 18:03:00 - [7] Edited by: MITSUK0 on 21/08/2007 18:03:42 lol I manage to fill all 4 high slots on the ares AND still get it cap stable gogo 75mm rails (EDIT: also it does as much dps as most crow fittings tbh, it is only when you start adding damage mods that split weapon systems suck)
tarin adur Gallente Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.08.21 18:12:00 - [8] oh and worst if it all,they're BOTH pink!
MotoTsume Gallente Clan Black Scorpion	Posted - 2007.08.21 19:36:00 - [9] Edited by: MotoTsume on 21/08/2007 19:36:46 Originally by: stopdropandlol HEY dont talk bad about Gallente ships like that. ALL our ships are solo pwn mobiles especially the ares with its 4 weapon slots who cares if you cant fill them all there are 4 of them! and the eris its so damn cool looking it doesnt need to be a match of the other races dictors. now THATS sarcasm Ummm I fitted 4 weapons on my ares quite nicely 2x small missile launchers(named- foget which at this moment) 2xs 75mm railgun II's 24k scram mwd II 2x Nano II's 2x OD II's rigs: 2x Aux Thruster I's Poor mans fittings works quite fine for me. www.mototsume.ca [i]It's just a game........Or is it?
Gant Stryker AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.08.21 20:53:00 - [10] I like the Ares the way it is also. 2 75mm II, 2 standard launcher (named or II with AWU5) 1mn MWD II (or best named), 20k scram 3 OD II, 1 Nano II (good named if you want to save a bit) no rigs. Can get over 7000 m/s with only good skills and put the whole thing together T2 for about 15mil, less than 10mil for middle named stuff. Makes a nice inexpensive fleet or gang tackler. If you want a gallente solo inty get a Taranis. Not every ship needs to excel at every role. [url=http://killboard.intrepidcrossing.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=50] [/url]
Reto The Last Resort	Posted - 2007.08.21 21:13:00 - [11] Originally by: Gant Stryker I like the Ares the way it is also. 2 75mm II, 2 standard launcher (named or II with AWU5) 1mn MWD II (or best named), 20k scram 3 OD II, 1 Nano II (good named if you want to save a bit) no rigs. Can get over 7000 m/s with only good skills and put the whole thing together T2 for about 15mil, less than 10mil for middle named stuff. Makes a nice inexpensive fleet or gang tackler. If you want a gallente solo inty get a Taranis. Not every ship needs to excel at every role. at what range do u usually fight with the 75mm II ? Originally by: s4mp3r0r "Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
SkyEstaLimit	Posted - 2007.08.21 21:21:00 - [12] Yeah I like the ares too. It's an ok ship. Decent speed, good slots for long range, looks flashy. I think the only thing its lacking to make it ok from good is a bit of powergrid to be able to fit it shooty without filling the lows with grid mods. You cant fit a mwd and 4 long range weapons right now (without grid mod), and im not even talking about thinking to fit a repair. It still does ok as is and sells cheap.
aUTOKILL Gallente Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.08.21 21:55:00 - [13] Edited by: aUTOKILL on 21/08/2007 21:56:18 Originally by: MotoTsume Edited by: MotoTsume on 21/08/2007 19:36:46 Originally by: stopdropandlol HEY dont talk bad about Gallente ships like that. ALL our ships are solo pwn mobiles especially the ares with its 4 weapon slots who cares if you cant fill them all there are 4 of them! and the eris its so damn cool looking it doesnt need to be a match of the other races dictors. now THATS sarcasm Ummm I fitted 4 weapons on my ares quite nicely 2x small missile launchers(named- foget which at this moment) 2xs 75mm railgun II's 24k scram mwd II 2x Nano II's 2x OD II's rigs: 2x Aux Thruster I's Poor mans fittings works quite fine for me. HEY! That's my fitting! you cant steal it :D only thing different is that i got a fleeting disruptor on and no rigs for the xtra capage and cheapness. put therm missiles in and iron s in the 75's. faction for moar lolski's Originally by: Reto at what range do u usually fight with the 75mm II ? the 75's are just there just in case. ~~~~~~ Originally by: Demitri Klashnikov "Wanna come back to my place for some pew pew?" Originally by: lofty29 I HEREBY DECREE THAT FROM THIS DAY FORWARD, DARK SHIKARI IS TO BE REFERRED TO AS "DUTCH CURRY"

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