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Matorek
Cataclysm Enterprises
Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2007.08.22 22:24:00 -
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Up for auction is a quality HEL-Class MOTHERSHIP
it will be fitted with t2 gear, 20 fighters, 20 large, medium and small t2 drones aswell as 2 capital armor repairer and the new capital remote ecm module.
If u have any fitting wishes we will adjust the fitting, we can also offer to sell several faction modules to u.
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AUCTION END: Aug 28th at 22:00 hours eve time
SNIPER RULE: +30 minutes after every last bid
start bid: 25 billion isk
reserve: 29 billion isk
buyout: 35 billion isk ( also possible ingame via evemail )
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Buyer must have the full sum ready by auction end.
Alts:
Alt bids are not valid until u stated ur mainchar ( per evemail to "Matorek" , don t be shy, the buyer will stay anonymous and we will sell to the highest bidder regardless of his political affiliation )
Transfer:
The ship will be transfered in a low security system which will be disclosed to the buyer. We will meet at a pos there, the buyer transfers the isk to me. After i got the whole sum, the pilot will eject from the ship und the buyer will get the pos-pw to board it.
3rd Party:
If you want to use a 3rd party, you are responsible for any fees incurred and we will only use Chribba - you will be responsible for arranging it.
Cataclysm Enterprises ?
Yeah i realize the fact, that we are no well-known CAOD-entity but we were, are and will never be interested in playing thread-war.
We now fight in the eveverse for ourself and our friends for about 4 and a half years, we fought from the beginning of what later should become known as "GNW". We were founding members of G and D2 and a part of the well-known Trust-Shop-Program.
So we have come a long way and came across many entities, some friends and some hostiles. I think we always stood by our word and i am sure, you guys who can afford our product know that .
Reference:
previous NYX-auction
It is all about trust, if u think u can t trust us, just stay away from the thread and don t bid.
Matorek
Director
Cataclysm Enterprises |
DirtyDiana
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Posted - 2007.08.23 07:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Matorek
nyx is sold.
thx to the buyer and many thanks to Chribba who acted as a third party and was available on short notice 
Who or what is "Chribba"? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.23 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: DirtyDiana
Originally by: Matorek
nyx is sold.
thx to the buyer and many thanks to Chribba who acted as a third party and was available on short notice
Who or what is "Chribba"?
How rude. I am Chribba.
Help me help you. |
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2007.08.23 08:45:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
How rude. I am Chribba.
I have been a member of this community for over 4 years and resent being lied to. |
DirtyDiana
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Posted - 2007.08.23 16:17:00 -
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ah, THX! |
Matorek
Cataclysm Enterprises
Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2007.08.23 22:01:00 -
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*bumparoo
we in CE see chribba as neutral and one of the most respected and trustworthiest persons of the eve-community.
and because we think thats the opinion of the majority of eve-players ( atleast of those who can afford our products and know the community ), we chose him to be the only possible 3rd party in trading with us
Matorek
Director
Cataclysm Enterprises |
Wylker
Caldari
Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.08.23 22:56:00 -
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WHAT IS THIS CHRIBBA!?!??!?!? 
Portsmouth Shipyards IPO Sales
Portsmouth Shipyards IPO Discussion
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DirtyDiana
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Posted - 2007.08.24 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Originally by: DirtyDiana
Originally by: Matorek
nyx is sold.
thx to the buyer and many thanks to Chribba who acted as a third party and was available on short notice
Who or what is "Chribba"?
How rude. I am Chribba.
And what is your fee? |
Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2007.08.24 15:24:00 -
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20bil
seriously
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putting the gist back into logistics |
Arquiteto
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: DirtyDiana
Originally by: Matorek
nyx is sold.
thx to the buyer and many thanks to Chribba who acted as a third party and was available on short notice
Who or what is "Chribba"?
Chribba is the Veldspar god and don't you forget it.
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Leo Balthur
Koshaku
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:23:00 -
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selling it before we blow it up ?
thats not fair 
Originally by: VJ Maverick
Originally by: Red Harvest
Originally by: VJ Maverick
Best Fleet Commander? Hmm. it's a 3-way tie between Admiral Thrawn, Mon Mothma, and Admiral Akbar.
Not even close! Admiral Thrawn i |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.24 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: DirtyDiana
Originally by: Chribba
Originally by: DirtyDiana
Originally by: Matorek
nyx is sold.
thx to the buyer and many thanks to Chribba who acted as a third party and was available on short notice
Who or what is "Chribba"?
How rude. I am Chribba.
And what is your fee?
My fee is whatever we agree upon, usually ranging from a few hundred millions and up. Feel free to drop me a convo to talk more about it.
/c
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Matorek
Cataclysm Enterprises
Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2007.08.24 21:18:00 -
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guys, may i remind u that this is a HEL-Auction thread and neither a "chit-chat-thread" nor a "who-is-chribba-thread". 
so plz stay out of the thread if u don t want to bid or have a serious question regarding the auction. 
@ Roemy Schneider: sorry, the starting bid is 25 billion and not below, this ship will definately not sell under the starting bid. ( it is not like we don t know how to use the ship ourselves )
kind regards
Matorek
Director
Cataclysm Enterprises |
Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2007.08.25 22:07:00 -
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of course - let me know if you still want to turn that 5bil profit on it, though ^^ *free bump*
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putting the gist back into logistics |
SaorAlba
Cataclysm Enterprises
Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2007.08.26 03:49:00 -
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Just think of all the evil things you can do with such a ship in low security space
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Demiurgos
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Posted - 2007.08.26 19:40:00 -
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I'll make a bid of 21 billion if you'll consider selling ;)
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Matorek
Cataclysm Enterprises
Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2007.08.26 21:21:00 -
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Edited by: Matorek on 26/08/2007 21:22:11
Originally by: Demiurgos
I'll make a bid of 21 billion if you'll consider selling ;)
put 4 billion on top and i ll consider it.
there is a reason why the start-price is 25 billion, because thats the price at which we might accept a buy-offer and over an offer of 29 billion we will definately sell our precious.
so if u are really interested start at 25 to have at least the chance to get it. ^^
kind regards
Matorek
Director
Cataclysm Enterprises |
Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2007.08.27 03:25:00 -
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well, there's reasons we offer only 20bil
- lots of folks dump their moms because of bubbles
- cyno jammers (with a heck load of HP) made production a fair bit safer
and soon (no ™):
- faster copying with new labs
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putting the gist back into logistics |
Allinput
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Posted - 2007.08.27 08:59:00 -
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Reputable bunch of guys with a legitimate product unlike many of the others on these forums.
Do not be fooled, there is a reason why some of these ships are being sold for 35bil and others are being sold for 25. If you think its because they are greedy you need to look over at the crime and punishment for the poor SOB who got scammed out of his isk trying to buy a cheap Nyx.
Good luck on the sale
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Mealka
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.27 09:23:00 -
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:D
Your signature exceeds the maximum file size of 24,000 bytes. - Tallan |
Oceemia
Caldari
Cataclysm Enterprises
Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:25:00 -
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up you go!
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Originally by: DirtyDiana
Originally by: Matorek
nyx is sold.
thx to the buyer and many thanks to Chribba who acted as a third party and was available on short notice
Who or what is "Chribba"?
How rude. I am Chribba.
LOL!
Great timing
SKUNK
Originally by: Jeximo
I also like how your cat only managed to hit the enter button when he/she jumped on your keyboard.
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Matorek
Cataclysm Enterprises
Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Roemy Schneider
well, there's reasons we offer only 20bil
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well from the producers side of view i can tell u that the production of such a beast from a bpc nearly costs 20 bil, the costs of several capital component bpc/bpo and the production infrastructure itself not taken into account.
but anyway, thats no price discussion-thread.
START BID IS 25 BILLION
ps: plz don t make silly ingame bo-offers, just bid here or make serious BO-offers ingame
regards
Matorek
Director
Cataclysm Enterprises |
Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:40:00 -
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well... it's more like bargaining rather than discussing a price. sure you could try 5 auctions before we agree on 20bil or we could have it now - it's in your interest ^^
bpcs currently go for no more than 4bil (and will drop below 3bil with those new labs)
and construction is about 11.something bil in minerals (if you're paying empire prices so i'd say well below 10bil)
i find 5-6bil sufficient for paying off a capital assembly array (which can still be sold afterwards) and the 22 freighter tours.
so, if you chose to go for that profit and demiu...thingy retracts his 21bil, let me know
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putting the gist back into logistics |
bsspewer
Caldari
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:57:00 -
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Edited by: bsspewer on 27/08/2007 20:58:09
Originally by: Roemy Schneider
well... it's more like bargaining rather than discussing a price. sure you could try 5 auctions before we agree on 20bil or we could have it now - it's in your interest ^^
bpcs currently go for no more than 4bil (and will drop below 3bil with those new labs)
and construction is about 11.something bil in minerals (if you're paying empire prices so i'd say well below 10bil)
i find 5-6bil sufficient for paying off a capital assembly array (which can still be sold afterwards) and the 22 freighter tours.
so, if you chose to go for that profit and demiu...thingy retracts his 21bil, let me know
I think you forget that you need to build it in a system that has system sovereignty, which required a lot of work, defense of the system from the mom being destroyed under construction, and that those minerals require more then 22 trips to/from the pos..
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Miraxiam
Gallente
Argent Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.28 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Roemy Schneider
well... it's more like bargaining rather than discussing a price. sure you could try 5 auctions before we agree on 20bil or we could have it now - it's in your interest ^^
bpcs currently go for no more than 4bil (and will drop below 3bil with those new labs)
and construction is about 11.something bil in minerals (if you're paying empire prices so i'd say well below 10bil)
i find 5-6bil sufficient for paying off a capital assembly array (which can still be sold afterwards) and the 22 freighter tours.
so, if you chose to go for that profit and demiu...thingy retracts his 21bil, let me know
Think someone needs to go build their own super cap 
GL with the sale CE, shame that the hel has such sucky bonus 
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WTB: 32% cap rechargers or better.
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The Nova
Gallente
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.28 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: Roemy Schneider
i find 5-6bil sufficient for paying off a capital assembly array (which can still be sold afterwards)
I believe there is still a bug with the capital assembly/maint arrays were they cannot be unanchored after use.
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Oceemia
Caldari
Cataclysm Enterprises
Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 13:48:00 -
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this threads needs an up.
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WallStArb
CyberDyne R-D
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Posted - 2007.08.29 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Roemy Schneider
and construction is about 11.something bil in minerals (if you're paying empire prices so i'd say well below 10bil)
i find 5-6bil sufficient for paying off a capital assembly array
Let's start ripping you and you're lame flame/troll one by one
1) contruction costs for a HEL at current JITA mineral prices are about 14 bil BEFORE any losses due to compression/decompression - if you assume a 5% loss due to odds and ends (componet BPO waste and refine tax/innefficiency of outposts) then we can say its ABOUT 15b. Getting minerals to deep lo sec is a HUGE effort - lets see ya freighter up 10 freighetrs of low end minerals and see how many make it.
2) BPC is about 4 bil - makes had costs about 18 - 19b
3)POS costs are about 250m for fuel (maybe more) and the cost of the POS itself would be about 4b - with the very real potential of loss of POS and the ship in the oven.
4) once parts are completed its ATLEAST 27 freighter loads from wherever parts are to the building POS. This is mindnumbing time sink to say the least.
5) Wait nearly 4 weeks - and hope no one decides your $25 billion target is worth blowing up.
Now since you have invested 18 - 20 billion for the ship and 5 billion for the POS and you have RISKED it all - you'd expect to make a higher % return on this then other capitals. Carriers have a 40% mark up based on raw mineral cost (they cost about 600 - 650 to build and sell for 850 - 900) and theres no risk in building. So on a mothership which is much more risky it'd stand to reason that reward is commeserate with teh risk and less then 40% you should build carriers rather then take the extra effort to bother with a mothership.
Since you seem to have life scoped out and you are fine with selling motherships for 20 billion - I'd like to order a few. If you are building them... then shut the f.u.c.*. up and put your spreadsheet away and get you hand off your johnson.
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Diablique
The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2007.08.29 21:41:00 -
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Edited by: Diablique on 29/08/2007 21:40:53
Wallstarb for president.
Pay up, or build your own.
Go CE.. not enough HEL's in the world.
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2007.08.29 22:24:00 -
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yes, indeed... i had no idea, that many people were relying on the coupling arrays as trit-machines.
sorry to hear about increased production costs
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Matorek
Cataclysm Enterprises
Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2007.08.31 23:05:00 -
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ship sold to ingame bid by demiurgos ( sorry roemy )
thanks again to chribba for his fast, easy and reliable service.
kind regards
Matorek
Director
Cataclysm Enterprises |
Demiurgos
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Posted - 2007.08.31 23:19:00 -
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Thanks a lot to Chribba for his immediate response and quality help which made the trade much smoother.
Thanks a lot to Matorek and CE for the great sell of a beautiful ship.
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