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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.27 04:35:00 -
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Top Five Most Famous Artists of the 20th Century.
Me and a friend were discussing this. Just trying to think of the top 5 artists (any kind of artists except for musicians). And mainly we want to get a good cross section of what people think. There is no right or wrong answer, and if you can't name 5, what you can name is good.
This is 20th century artists, and if they were born in the 19th century, whichever was the majority of their work, so someone like Cezanne would be 19th century. It comes up a bunch too, so Monet and the Impressionists were 19th century.
Also, if you would be so kind to mention if you have any formal education in Art History or not. Just because we have been trying to figure out among those formally educated and those who aren't, so for stastical purposes. Thank you 
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Phiend
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:03:00 -
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You excluded music, but still left open a huge variety. What about literature?
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Tarquin Tarquinius
Gallente Escorts of Eve
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:04:00 -
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Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 27/08/2007 05:08:47
Pablo Picasso Salvador Dali Robert Mapplethorpe Claes Oldenburg Frank Lloyd Wright
I tried to include people from different mediums. "Almost made the list" group includes: Man Ray, Frank Gehry, Dorthea Lange, Alexander Calder, Andy Warhol, Jasper Johns, and I'll think of more later. ------ wait...what? |

Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:13:00 -
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In no particular order:
- Pablo Picasso - Jackson Pollock - Andy Warhol - Wassily Kandinsky - Henri Matisse
No schooling in the Arts save a classical education. Just an appreciation of them is all.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: Phiend You excluded music, but still left open a huge variety. What about literature?
It is hard to construct the sentence so it includes everything I want and not the things I don't. But no Lit either, the way I am thinking is that Writing and Music are something that people will see as their own thing. So mainly, visual artists (but performance artists and the aspects of non-traditional art are open too). Make sense?
And later on I'll post the top 5 I have gotten so far from everyone here and other's I've asked.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius
I tried to include people from different mediums. "Almost made the list" group includes: Man Ray, Frank Gehry, Dorthea Lange, Alexander Calder, Andy Warhol, Jasper Johns, and I'll think of more later.
My Maybe list is pages and pages long.
Mixing all mediums is fine, but don't feel like you need to, if five painters are what come to mind, go for it.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:22:00 -
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I should note in choosing my 5 (difficult) I did not pick "favorites" of mine but rather artists who I felt redefined art in a unique way (e.g. Picasso and Cubism or Matisse and Fauvism and so on). Five is really too short to cover it all and without going back to my books or visiting the local art museum I allow I may have missed some noteworthy artists.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h I should note in choosing my 5 (difficult) I did not pick "favorites" of mine but rather artists who I felt redefined art in a unique way (e.g. Picasso and Cubism or Matisse and Fauvism and so on). Five is really too short to cover it all and without going back to my books or visiting the local art museum I allow I may have missed some noteworthy artists.
That is moreso what I am looking at. People's "Favorites" are fine. But I am really looking at the top ones who really have their place in defining 20th century history, and that your average person will know by name.
When more people say stuff, I can elaborate, but I don't want to skew the results.
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:45:00 -
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It all depends on how you look on it I guess. The scream is the most iconic painting ever, and the most copied/used comercially. So does that make Edward Munch the most famous painter? Nope, but one of them.
It's really impossible to name the most famous in any category as there are so many variables.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:50:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 27/08/2007 05:50:59
Originally by: Death Kill It all depends on how you look on it I guess. The scream is the most iconic painting ever, and the most copied/used comercially. So does that make Edward Munch the most famous painter? Nope, but one of them.
I know The Scream is up there. But can you really prove that it is "the most". Even excluding non-20th century works, there are still things like The Kiss Infront of the Hotel Deville and The Persistence of Memory.
But anyway, this thread is more about artists, and not individual pieces of work. And more about opinions than any stastical proof from one person.
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Epoch
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:55:00 -
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Martin Scorsese Stanley Kubrick Salvador Dali Frank Lloyd Wright Pablo Picasso
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.08.27 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
I know The Scream is up there.
Yeah I'm not kidding I saw a BBC(IIRC) documentary about it a while back. I'm at work atm so I got limited time for digging things up.
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excluding non-20th century works, there are still things like The Kiss Infront of the Hotel Deville and The Persistence of Memory.
The Kiss, you mean by Rodin?
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But anyway, this thread is more about artists, and not individual pieces of work. And more about opinions than any stastical proof from one person.
I thought all of this was opinion? And how can it be about artists when its not about what makes them famous(their work)?
So what decides why/how an artist is famous, his country of birth?
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.27 06:26:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill The Kiss, you mean by Rodin?
Nope, the photo by Robert Doisneau, this one
Originally by: Death Kill I thought all of this was opinion? And how can it be about artists when its not about what makes them famous(their work)?
So what decides why/how an artist is famous, his country of birth?
Well, it is still opinion. But I figure in each person's opinion, many things overlap, and so that will paint a much broader picture.
There are quite a few paintings that are sort of like the "one hit wonders", like American Gotchic, or The Nighthawks. But I think their are some artists who have transcended just their works and become known as cultural icons. I can think of some examples, but again, I don't wanna name names just yet. And these are generally some of the ones whose names I see pop up the most.
Once I get up though, I am hoping this thread will have moved a bit further, and I will be happy to. As far as countries go, I don't think that plays too much of a role in it.
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Locus Bey
Gallente Qalandar
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Posted - 2007.08.27 06:55:00 -
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Picasso Le Corbusier The big ****head: Andy Warhol Versace Orson Welles
I went with most famous, as opposed to top/best imo. I included Versace, could have been Chanel or Lagerfeld. I chose Orson more for influence and notoriety. I'm sure people could easily say Lucas, from a mainstream popular perspective.
No formal beyond high school.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.08.27 06:57:00 -
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It's funny cause all the suggestions have at least one name that I either don't know or don't think most people will know.
I'd say:
Pablo Picasso Frank Lloyd Wright Andy Warhol Salvator Dali Vincent Vangogh
I don't think it's fair to compare this kinda artist with movie makers. That's a multi billion dollar industry and totally different. Everyone and his dog knows who steven speilberg is.
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Epoch
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Posted - 2007.08.27 07:21:00 -
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Edited by: Epoch on 27/08/2007 07:23:46
Originally by: Frug I don't think it's fair to compare this kinda artist with movie makers. That's a multi billion dollar industry and totally different. Everyone and his dog knows who steven speilberg is.
Why is it unfair? Film is a medium that costs far more than a brush, paint & canvas.
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.08.27 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Epoch Edited by: Epoch on 27/08/2007 07:23:46
Originally by: Frug I don't think it's fair to compare this kinda artist with movie makers. That's a multi billion dollar industry and totally different. Everyone and his dog knows who steven speilberg is.
Why is it unfair? Film is a medium that costs far more than a brush, paint & canvas.
I think you fail at art if you think about cost.
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.08.27 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
I can think of some examples, but again, I don't wanna name names just yet. And these are generally some of the ones whose names I see pop up the most.
That can be related to place of birth and age. I studied arts for 2 years and in my opinion the avergae western art book is criminally faulty when it comes to presenting a proper introduction to different forms of arts and their history. They are usually dominated by artists of former colonial powers as they had much wider audience than anyone else.
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Cornucopian
Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.27 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Frug It's funny cause all the suggestions have at least one name that I either don't know or don't think most people will know.
I'd say:
Pablo Picasso Frank Lloyd Wright Andy Warhol Salvator Dali Vincent Vangogh
I don't think it's fair to compare this kinda artist with movie makers. That's a multi billion dollar industry and totally different. Everyone and his dog knows who steven speilberg is.
van gogh wasnt 20th century mate..... 19th. I thought the OP said that the artist had to have made at least ONE work in the 20th century??? I could be mistaken though.
Also.... don't tell me the Artists world isnt a Billion dollar industry. More money moves in art than in film, it's just advertised a little less mate.
I would say:
MC Escher Carl Sagan (you could argue he's an artist) Salvador Dali Spielberg (Schindlers List, Ryan: his WW2 childhood obsession turned into cinemas greats as different tableaux of the facets of the war) Peter Jackson (***** all you want: LOTR is a masterpiece of cinema, both storywise and from an artistic viewpoint, as well as a technological one.) Glen Miller Monty Python Oliver Stone Piet Mondriaan Giorgio Moroder Shirow Masamune
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:35:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 27/08/2007 12:36:46
Originally by: Death Kill
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
I can think of some examples, but again, I don't wanna name names just yet. And these are generally some of the ones whose names I see pop up the most.
That can be related to place of birth and age. I studied arts for 2 years and in my opinion the avergae western art book is criminally faulty when it comes to presenting a proper introduction to different forms of arts and their history. They are usually dominated by artists of former colonial powers as they had much wider audience than anyone else.
Well, this is true. Western art always tends to dominate things just beacuse of the way things were. But from the 19th century on, you tend to see the influence of asian art steadily growing. From Impressionism, to Cubism, to ARt Nouveau, and even up until now. Which a lot hs to do with Japanese opening up to International Commerce in 1853.
Originally by: Cornucopian van gogh wasnt 20th century mate..... 19th. I thought the OP said that the artist had to have made at least ONE work in the 20th century??? I could be mistaken though.
I'd prefer if the majority of their work was 20th century. But Van Gogh did die in 1890 or so.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Locus Bey Picasso Le Corbusier The big ****head: Andy Warhol Versace Orson Welles
I would probably say Chanel over Versace, just for all the stuff she did. But I can see a lot of people arguing with you that designers don't belong on the list. Not me though.
As for Orson Welles, I'd like to keep literature off the list.
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:50:00 -
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Edited by: LUH 3471 on 27/08/2007 12:55:06 nt
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Locus Bey
Gallente Qalandar
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Locus Bey Picasso Le Corbusier The big ****head: Andy Warhol Versace Orson Welles
I would probably say Chanel over Versace, just for all the stuff she did. But I can see a lot of people arguing with you that designers don't belong on the list. Not me though.
As for Orson Welles, I'd like to keep literature off the list.
Orson Welles was a film director. I was referring to Citizen Kane. As to Versace, it has nothing to do with my perspective on what's art, just who is famous.
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