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Fifinella
Caldari
Fringe Exploration And Salvage Trust
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2007.09.03 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: Fifinella on 03/09/2007 21:36:25
 Originally by: Keiler
After those agreements -V- was set to plus and you guys to minus. RA however set us neutral without warning and started shooting us. TCF and TE-KA sent us a mail saying they will set us neutral.
You didn't know that if you shoot at someone, their allies and/or friends will start shooting at you? I guess ignorance on that level is one way of keeping your life surprising and eventful. GOONs are unstable at best, but you might have wanted to inform RED about your intentions, too. Then them shooting at you wouldn't have come as a complete surprise. :)
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Actually this thread is just about informing everyone that we will shoot everyone now (except those few buddies we have here and there).
Those few buddies being BoB and their allies, I guess. I mean,that's what this drivel boils down to, isn't it? "We desperately want to join BoB, but don't want BoB's enemies to start shooting us just yet" or something to that effect? You started by attacking an alliance that is friends to anti-BoBbers, then expanded the your hostilities to cover those anti-BoBbers, as well. That's one strange behavior pattern for someone who's main target they claim to be BoB, but would fit well someone allied to or paid by BoB. Why don't you just come on out and say it?
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P.S.: I am not a fan of NRDS and never will be. Same goes for all of TA. We just don't like setting someone red after loosing ships to them ;).
I've never understood why NRDS keeps being placed on the same level as stupidity. I guess people who've never tried NRDS assume that it means "going to the gate in an unarmed hauler to greet any new unknowns that pop into system." Newsflash: It doesn't. NRDS means we don't shoot neutrals, but it doesn't mean that we trust them, quite the contrary. NRDS means we don't shoot first, but we work hard to shoot last. Plenty of alliances and corps get set red even before a single FDN ship is lost to them, if ever. And I rather lose the occasional ship than the occasional friend.
Hudsonn: You might want to open your alliance-window, and then the politics -> standings tab, and see who -V-'s allies and friends are. You'll find Band of Brothers there.
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Hudsonn
Mercenaries of Andosia
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.09.03 21:44:00 -
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Hudsonn: You might want to open your alliance-window, and then the politics -> standings tab, and see who -V-'s allies and friends are. You'll find Band of Brothers there.
Ahh so GW is bob space? i get you.
Read my post again....
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Space Chutney
Minmatar
Wildlands Heavy Technologies
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2007.09.03 23:01:00 -
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Edited by: Space Chutney on 03/09/2007 23:01:37
No actually, I think you'll find that if you read the posts again then you may get the point of his post.
Originally by: DREAMWORKS
Yes, we did try to nap alliances that are in the coalition against BoB.
Members in this Coalition like to fight each other when they should fight BoB.
We do not like to be part of that KINDERGARTEN.
Originally by: DREAMWORKS
BoB will always be our main target .
And if you check your alliance's friends list I think you will find Band Of Brothers on there, the point is... they allied with friends of their so called 'main targets'... prehaps they dont understand politics / standings. Even Curse Alliance was better organized with their standings than that.
Great Wildlands has nothing to do with it, their reasoning for their standings changes and the blantant smacktalk in this thread are. Its the enemy of my enemy is my friend, not the friend of my enemy is my friend. 
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Hudsonn
Mercenaries of Andosia
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.09.03 23:09:00 -
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righto...in otherwords... "OMG BOB Petzz". well done. 
Anyway, doesn't matter... pew pew is good in GW and that whats it's all about. Nuff said.
Sweet as.
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znacke1986
Battalion of Fear
TALIONIS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2007.09.03 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Fifinella
Edited by: Fifinella on 03/09/2007 21:36:25
Originally by: Keiler
After those agreements -V- was set to plus and you guys to minus. RA however set us neutral without warning and started shooting us. TCF and TE-KA sent us a mail saying they will set us neutral.
You didn't know that if you shoot at someone, their allies and/or friends will start shooting at you? I guess ignorance on that level is one way of keeping your life surprising and eventful. GOONs are unstable at best, but you might have wanted to inform RED about your intentions, too. Then them shooting at you wouldn't have come as a complete surprise. :)
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Actually this thread is just about informing everyone that we will shoot everyone now (except those few buddies we have here and there).
Those few buddies being BoB and their allies, I guess. I mean,that's what this drivel boils down to, isn't it? "We desperately want to join BoB, but don't want BoB's enemies to start shooting us just yet" or something to that effect? You started by attacking an alliance that is friends to anti-BoBbers, then expanded the your hostilities to cover those anti-BoBbers, as well. That's one strange behavior pattern for someone who's main target they claim to be BoB, but would fit well someone allied to or paid by BoB. Why don't you just come on out and say it?
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P.S.: I am not a fan of NRDS and never will be. Same goes for all of TA. We just don't like setting someone red after loosing ships to them ;).
I've never understood why NRDS keeps being placed on the same level as stupidity. I guess people who've never tried NRDS assume that it means "going to the gate in an unarmed hauler to greet any new unknowns that pop into system." Newsflash: It doesn't. NRDS means we don't shoot neutrals, but it doesn't mean that we trust them, quite the contrary. NRDS means we don't shoot first, but we work hard to shoot last. Plenty of alliances and corps get set red even before a single FDN ship is lost to them, if ever. And I rather lose the occasional ship than the occasional friend.
Hudsonn: You might want to open your alliance-window, and then the politics -> standings tab, and see who -V-'s allies and friends are. You'll find Band of Brothers there.
it seams to me that you are interpreting things that were never said...
Originally by: Space Chutney
And if you check your alliance's friends list I think you will find Band Of Brothers on there, the point is... they allied with friends of their so called 'main targets'... prehaps they dont understand politics / standings. Even Curse Alliance was better organized with their standings than that.
hmm if i remember my history lessons, i think i remember you guys fighting together with imperium allinze untill you guys decided to turn them to red or what ever you guys want to call that. and of course lets not forget alliing with imerpiums enemies who you have been fiting the whole time before... kind of funny isent it 
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Keiler
Jion Keanturi
TALIONIS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2007.09.03 23:40:00 -
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Edited by: Keiler on 03/09/2007 23:40:54
Originally by: Fifinella
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My dear Fifinella!
It would be very kind of you NOT to talk about things you have absolutly no clue about. WE have absolutly no problem with having more "red" people around. But I get the feeling you guys do.
I have no intentions whatsoever to tell you or anyone else who the alliances and corps are that are friendly to us or have a NAP with us. But right now, and I am very glad about that, no alliance directly involved in the Big War has blue standings to us. Yes, that also means that BOB is not our friend ;).
It is also pretty funny that you think others put you on a stupidity level. NRDS is a way to handle things... go ahead. Nothing for us though. But that's the great thing about eve... you have the right to do what you want.
Keiler
Talionis Alliance
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MaidMarion
The SMITE Brotherhood
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.04 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: znacke1986
hmm if i remember my history lessons, i think i remember you guys fighting together with imperium allinze untill you guys decided to turn them to red or what ever you guys want to call that. and of course lets not forget alliing with imerpiums enemies who you have been fiting the whole time before... kind of funny isent it
Actually I remember FDN being blue to Imperium until Imperium disbanded and reformed Curse, and then FDN only set CA red because of certain corps (cough Infod etc cough) joined the new CA.
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Fifinella
Caldari
Fringe Exploration And Salvage Trust
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2007.09.04 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Keiler
It would be very kind of you NOT to talk about things you have absolutly no clue about. WE have absolutly no problem with having more "red" people around. But I get the feeling you guys do.
And by "more", you of course mean "less", which is why you're hiding in GW under the protection of -V-, the BoB pet (note: I didn't say GW is BoB space. I merely said -V- is their pet. Owners of pets usually let them have cots). RED and GOON very rarely do more than visit the region.
And yes, I'd personally prefer to have less reds around. But I'm not FDN. I'm not even a leader in FDN. That's just my personal opinion. It gets a bit repetitive after three years. However, we'll keep fighting any comers, like we've done before. Eventually you'll get bored with GW and leave, like all the others before you, and -V- lures in the next cannonfodder alliance, and the cycle repeats itself.
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But right now, and I am very glad about that, no alliance directly involved in the Big War has blue standings to us. Yes, that also means that BOB is not our friend ;).
Yes, but instead of fighting your "main target", you're fighting the enemies of your "main target". Let's see, in the last FOUR months you've killed a whopping 4 BoB ships (ref: your killboard. Or do you have a separate double secret killboard somewhere for just your BoB kills?). And the only alliance you seem to have blue standings towards is a BoB pet. Why not go after your main target? I hear they're quite a large alliance, so there should not be a shortage of targets.
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It is also pretty funny that you think others put you on a stupidity level.
I don't sit all night inventing these things, you know. There are people all over saying it. So I don't think others put us on a stupidity level, I know they do. My comment on that subject wasn't so much a direct response to you, just general musing on the subject, since it came up.
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Dr Kojak
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.09.04 09:07:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Kojak on 04/09/2007 09:10:41
I want to post here to before this post becomes too epic and is closed.
You guys (Foundation, RA and other coalition) seem to think that whoever is not "blue-ing" up are fighting on Bobs side. This is not world of warcraft where you are either this or that side. This is as much political as it is about finding targets and having fun; meaning that you do not have to side with either this or that side to be a piece on the table. Also, I have seen some comments being made about low amounts of bob-kills on some killboards. Well, in case some of you have not noticed BoB is not around GW a lot, making it hard to kill someone who is not there. You do not have to be Einstein to figure that one out. (sadly some of you do not... )
If the coalition is so set on killing bob why dont you just go where bob is and kill em. To me that seems like a good idea to settle things. Instead you sit out in the drone regions and in GW and napfest whoever is unfortunate to cross paths with your diplomats. And when someone comes along who want to create something for themselves without bending over to the big big alliances (yes bob also) you guys are to blind to see it and cry wolf wolf as loud as you can.
As for the Church I am neither denying nor confirming your accusations of us being bob pets; that would surely decrease the amount of epic posts on these forums; and you know how much representatives of the Church likes preaching! 
Dr Kojak
CEO Infinitus Odium
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Space Chutney
Minmatar
Wildlands Heavy Technologies
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2007.09.04 09:35:00 -
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Whoa who'd of thought what your leaders say and what actually happens could be two different things... more on that in another post some time down the line I expect. Noes we set CA red because they had some corporations we refuse to ally ourselves with when they were blantantly smacking and actively trying to get the NAP broken regardless, god forbid. Prehaps we didnt want to be blue to such an organization after you decided to change your name and adopt 1500+ more members.
Yep, us nasty people again. Once again people miss the point, reading DREAMWORKS own posts, their 'Main target' is in fact BoB, its not us avoiding reds.
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DREAMWORKS
Gallente
Dark Destiny Inc.
TALIONIS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2007.09.04 09:54:00 -
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Keep it coming -i like it
DREAMWORKS
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Keiler
Jion Keanturi
TALIONIS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2007.09.04 12:04:00 -
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@ Fifinella:
Since this is an announcement thread and actually no CAOD Discussuin thread I just won't commment your ways of thinking anymore. (btw... I represent my corporation and alliance)
@ Kojac
I could just quote you but then I think the best way is just to say AMEN!
@ all...
If you like we can do a flaming new thread in CAOD to discuss all these wonderful things. I don't care and I will only respond to intelligent posts from now on.
Keiler
Jion Keanturi
Talionis Alliance
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Koibito
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Posted - 2007.09.04 12:35:00 -
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forum warfare is a funny thing but please - let us see what happens in future :)
dont flame each other in our threads.
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Space Chutney
Minmatar
Wildlands Heavy Technologies
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2007.09.04 19:22:00 -
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Well in that case.... he started it.
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Engad Tanon
Caldari
Enterprise Estonia
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.05 05:24:00 -
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Originally by: Hudsonn
righto...in otherwords... "OMG BOB Petzz". well done.
Anyway, doesn't matter... pew pew is good in GW and that whats it's all about. Nuff said.
Sweet as.
hudsonn in MOA  , LD dont lol, your recruitment lvl is to low
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Light Darkness
Mercenaries of Andosia
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.09.05 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: Engad Tanon
Originally by: Hudsonn
righto...in otherwords... "OMG BOB Petzz". well done.
Anyway, doesn't matter... pew pew is good in GW and that whats it's all about. Nuff said.
Sweet as.
hudsonn in MOA , LD dont lol, your recruitment lvl is to low
We have still our fun. 
Greetz to CoW and EE.
Regards
/LD
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Hudsonn
Mercenaries of Andosia
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.09.05 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Engad Tanon
Originally by: Hudsonn
righto...in otherwords... "OMG BOB Petzz". well done.
Anyway, doesn't matter... pew pew is good in GW and that whats it's all about. Nuff said.
Sweet as.
hudsonn in MOA , LD dont lol, your recruitment lvl is to low
Ahh shut it!
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speedcat
Gallente
Human Liberty Syndicate
TALIONIS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2007.09.05 13:36:00 -
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"We desperately want to join BoB, but don't want BoB's enemies to start shooting us just yet"
Never repeat that again, it makes me sick! After fighting on Coalition side for about 1 year now maybe you just accept we are going our own way.
The Kindergarden as already mentioned, is a real problem of the Coalition. Members of the so called Coalition get shot by other members of the Coalition. And after a while people just get mad and wants a change, whatever it is.
But that makes not better BoB. And if I ever see a BoB in Great Wildlands I hope "it" will fly by in E02 so I can shoot my first BoB. I really looking forward to do that.
But what I not forget about is, that you "FDN" shoot us while we were in Curse and tried to shoot CoW. So for me you're not a Goon and not an RA. Sorry mates! You had your chance and you are also one which decided to fight friends. 
br
speedcat
Against BoB forever!
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Hudsonn
Mercenaries of Andosia
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.09.05 16:14:00 -
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Yup. Shame most people cant seem to understand that things in eve aren't just black and white. It's never as simple as that.
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Light Darkness
Mercenaries of Andosia
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.09.06 04:38:00 -
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To make it clear:
-V- is going his own way and we descide who is our friend or enemy.
Now FDN is our enemy and TA are our friends. And TBH you shouldnt care about our standings. Only your standings with us.
Regards
/LD
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DiamondEdges
Adult Book Store
Alpha Tauri
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Posted - 2007.09.06 11:57:00 -
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Everyone here is red to me for one reason or another, except foundation.
Resetting the standing was a wise choice I must say. I think you'll find a few more to reset before long though
FOR SPARTA!
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AFTRUNX
Human Liberty Syndicate
TALIONIS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: DiamondEdges
FOR SPARTA!
hrhrhr..
still not enough targets... we need more!!
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TigCobra
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 19:35:00 -
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Fifinella,
Just shhh...
You really dont have any idea what you are talking about, so how about just drop it and leave it up to the people that count because I definently know a corporation called "Fringe Exploration And Salvage Trust" was not really out there doing the fighting. If you want a history lesson convo g0rg0n, and ask him and his leadership why he didnt uphold to the NAP with Imperium or Curse. If I remember correctly he said he was tired of the crap, and just left the area, to go "claim" another part of GW away from all the hostiles so that he could do gate camps all day long. I have no quarrel with any of these guys, but yes Dreamworks is correct they did leave the area and "broke" the NAP between IMP/CA and FDN.
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AFTRUNX
Human Liberty Syndicate
TALIONIS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2007.10.03 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: TigCobra
Fifinella,
Just shhh...
You really dont have any idea what you are talking about, so how about just drop it and leave it up to the people that count because I definently know a corporation called "Fringe Exploration And Salvage Trust" was not really out there doing the fighting. If you want a history lesson convo g0rg0n, and ask him and his leadership why he didnt uphold to the NAP with Imperium or Curse. If I remember correctly he said he was tired of the crap, and just left the area, to go "claim" another part of GW away from all the hostiles so that he could do gate camps all day long. I have no quarrel with any of these guys, but yes Dreamworks is correct they did leave the area and "broke" the NAP between IMP/CA and FDN.
tststststs...
we was killed from RA without any information... >>> we set RA to RED
GS help RA in Scalding Pass and GW >>> we set GS to RED
as more of you are in GW, as more we have to kill... (and we do it very well)
the time now in GW with -V- is the best time i never had!!
FOR SPARTA!!!!
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TigCobra
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.10 04:33:00 -
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Originally by: AFTRUNX
Originally by: TigCobra
Fifinella,
Just shhh...
You really dont have any idea what you are talking about, so how about just drop it and leave it up to the people that count because I definently know a corporation called "Fringe Exploration And Salvage Trust" was not really out there doing the fighting. If you want a history lesson convo g0rg0n, and ask him and his leadership why he didnt uphold to the NAP with Imperium or Curse. If I remember correctly he said he was tired of the crap, and just left the area, to go "claim" another part of GW away from all the hostiles so that he could do gate camps all day long. I have no quarrel with any of these guys, but yes Dreamworks is correct they did leave the area and "broke" the NAP between IMP/CA and FDN.
tststststs...
we was killed from RA without any information... >>> we set RA to RED
GS help RA in Scalding Pass and GW >>> we set GS to RED
as more of you are in GW, as more we have to kill... (and we do it very well)
the time now in GW with -V- is the best time i never had!!
FOR SPARTA!!!!
I would really think about using a better translator next time.
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Unruffled Equanimity
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.10.10 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: TigCobra
Originally by: AFTRUNX
Originally by: TigCobra
Fifinella,
Just shhh...
You really dont have any idea what you are talking about, so how about just drop it and leave it up to the people that count because I definently know a corporation called "Fringe Exploration And Salvage Trust" was not really out there doing the fighting. If you want a history lesson convo g0rg0n, and ask him and his leadership why he didnt uphold to the NAP with Imperium or Curse. If I remember correctly he said he was tired of the crap, and just left the area, to go "claim" another part of GW away from all the hostiles so that he could do gate camps all day long. I have no quarrel with any of these guys, but yes Dreamworks is correct they did leave the area and "broke" the NAP between IMP/CA and FDN.
tststststs...
we was killed from RA without any information... >>> we set RA to RED
GS help RA in Scalding Pass and GW >>> we set GS to RED
as more of you are in GW, as more we have to kill... (and we do it very well)
the time now in GW with -V- is the best time i never had!!
FOR SPARTA!!!!
I would really think about using a better translator next time.
what a statement! do you have nothing better to add my monolingual friend?
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Archonon
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.12 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: DREAMWORKS
We have new targets- new friends-but still the same hostiles.
BoB will always be our main target .
DREAMWORKS
Originally by: AFTRUNX
hrhrhr..
still not enough targets... we need more!!
If u're looking for BoB in GW, that's sure.
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Diicc Tater
Aggressive Tendencies
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.10.12 13:59:00 -
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