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Valcoria Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.08.28 19:25:00 - [1] I have been playing around with a few setups for lvl 4s. Note that I run two ships. One fit for max tank and the other fit for damage. The Sac will be for tanking. Armor Thermic Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 10MN Afterburner II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II [empty high slot] Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I The tank seems to be ok but not something you want to get full room agro with. The damage is not so good. I must say I am impressed how well it tanks for a cruiser but the armor buffer isn't that big if things go bad. It is a beast in lvl 3s.
Julius Romanus Free Space Development Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.28 19:27:00 - [2] I'd swap the EANM's for type specific hards if you're missioning. Other than that it looks fine.
Valcoria Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.08.28 20:07:00 - [3] I agree but I tend to be lazy and don't often. Cap wise active hards will run with no problem.
Yaro	Posted - 2007.08.28 20:16:00 - [4] use rat specific hardeners and damage mods
Aramendel Amarr Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.08.28 20:17:00 - [5] A drake will do more dps at 20k+ while tanking better and being a LOT cheaper.
Dizeezer Velar Caldari Atomic Heroes The OSS	Posted - 2007.08.28 20:26:00 - [6] are you using javelin hams? i personally will be fitting launcher rigs that increase missile speed so I can get additional range.
Valcoria Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.08.28 20:32:00 - [7] Originally by: Aramendel A drake will do more dps at 20k+ while tanking better and being a LOT cheaper. Yes it will and I use one as well. I am just using the Sac for some missions just to mix things up.
Valcoria Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.08.28 20:33:00 - [8] Originally by: Dizeezer Velar are you using javelin hams? i personally will be fitting launcher rigs that increase missile speed so I can get additional range. I only use tech 1 ammo for missions. Again one of those habit things. It also helps I have mountains of ammo I use.
Aramendel Amarr Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.08.28 21:20:00 - [9] Originally by: Valcoria Yes it will and I use one as well. I am just using the Sac for some missions just to mix things up. Fair enough
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.08.28 21:36:00 - [10] i've been using heavy launchers, instead of heavy assaults, since most of the rats i've engaged tend to keep thier range. however.. the ship got a huge speed boost... can go almost 700 m/s with a 10mn AB II. The Beginning <-- crap quality, need to redo, sorry :(
Valcoria Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.08.28 22:22:00 - [11] Originally by: Feng Schui i've been using heavy launchers, instead of heavy assaults, since most of the rats i've engaged tend to keep thier range. however.. the ship got a huge speed boost... can go almost 700 m/s with a 10mn AB II. That is part of what makes it fun. Most missile boats you just snipe in. With the Sac you need to get up close and mix it up. Sure you can do that with any missile boat but as you pointed out the Sac has the speed to make it fun. I am rather liking the idea of a armor tanked missile boat. You also can't go wrong with a sexy black ship.
Zak Wralyn Redback Industries	Posted - 2007.08.28 23:31:00 - [12] Just a suggestion, Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II [empty high slot] Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 10MN Afterburner II Missions specific Hardner T2 (primary dmg type) Missions specific Hardner T2 (secondary dmg type) Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Thermal Armor Rig I (Dont remember the correct name) This wil provide a more comprehensive tank and plug that thermal hole permanently while freeing up a low slot allowing you to then concentrate on the specific dmg types. End result will be a much stronger tank. ______________________________________________ Zak Wralyn - Combat Pilot for Redback Industries
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.08.28 23:38:00 - [13] Edited by: Feng Schui on 28/08/2007 23:40:46 Originally by: Valcoria Originally by: Feng Schui i've been using heavy launchers, instead of heavy assaults, since most of the rats i've engaged tend to keep thier range. however.. the ship got a huge speed boost... can go almost 700 m/s with a 10mn AB II. That is part of what makes it fun. Most missile boats you just snipe in. With the Sac you need to get up close and mix it up. Sure you can do that with any missile boat but as you pointed out the Sac has the speed to make it fun. I am rather liking the idea of a armor tanked missile boat. You also can't go wrong with a sexy black ship. Well.. I actually got this ship for COSMOS hacking complexes, and I must say, while not the most uber damage, the tank on it is very good (even have 1 BCU =p).. not too mention I can perma-run my AB, MAR II, and Codebreaker (I do use a medium NOS on an NPC cruiser). But unfortunately, I cant really run to the rats and such for my damage, since I'm running to the hacking containers instead Edit: Ship Setup: 5x XR-3200 Heavy Missle Bay 1x Medium Nosferatu II 1x Codebreaker I 1x 10MN Afterburner II 1x PL-0 Shipment Probe (thought it would work on containers.. it doesn't.. changing out for another codebreaker) 1x Cap Recharger II 1x MAR II 1x Kinetic, Thermal, Explosive Hardener II 1x BCU II The Beginning <-- crap quality, need to redo, sorry :(
Valcoria Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.08.28 23:40:00 - [14] Originally by: Zak Wralyn Just a suggestion, Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II [empty high slot] Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 10MN Afterburner II Missions specific Hardner T2 (primary dmg type) Missions specific Hardner T2 (secondary dmg type) Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Thermal Armor Rig I (Dont remember the correct name) This wil provide a more comprehensive tank and plug that thermal hole permanently while freeing up a low slot allowing you to then concentrate on the specific dmg types. End result will be a much stronger tank. I thought the Sac only had two rigs slots? I fit EANMs out of laziness. Fitting mission specific hardeners will always create a better tank.
Valcoria Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.08.28 23:43:00 - [15] Originally by: Feng Schui Edited by: Feng Schui on 28/08/2007 23:40:46 Originally by: Valcoria Originally by: Feng Schui i've been using heavy launchers, instead of heavy assaults, since most of the rats i've engaged tend to keep thier range. however.. the ship got a huge speed boost... can go almost 700 m/s with a 10mn AB II. That is part of what makes it fun. Most missile boats you just snipe in. With the Sac you need to get up close and mix it up. Sure you can do that with any missile boat but as you pointed out the Sac has the speed to make it fun. I am rather liking the idea of a armor tanked missile boat. You also can't go wrong with a sexy black ship. Well.. I actually got this ship for COSMOS hacking complexes, and I must say, while not the most uber damage, the tank on it is very good (even have 1 BCU =p).. not too mention I can perma-run my AB, MAR II, and Codebreaker (I do use a medium NOS on an NPC cruiser). But unfortunately, I cant really run to the rats and such for my damage, since I'm running to the hacking containers instead Edit: Ship Setup: 5x XR-3200 Heavy Missle Bay 1x Medium Nosferatu II 1x Codebreaker I 1x 10MN Afterburner II 1x PL-0 Shipment Probe (thought it would work on containers.. it doesn't.. changing out for another codebreaker) 1x Cap Recharger II 1x MAR II 1x Kinetic, Thermal, Explosive Hardener II 1x BCU II Yeah if anything I am finding it to be a fun ship. Sure other ships can beat it in many ways. At least it is useful now. My Sac has been collecting dust for a long time before the change.
Dalanoria Northern Intelligence Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.08.29 00:18:00 - [16] Originally by: Aramendel A drake will do more dps at 20k+ while tanking better and being a LOT cheaper. Drake for pve Sac for pvp..... Sac can actualy hold targets down and pound the living crap out them, Drake can do the same with a tackler..... The sac is much sexier then the drake and its on the way to a Damnation....
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.08.29 00:25:00 - [17] or a sacrilege for pve when you can't use bc's =p The Beginning <-- crap quality, need to redo, sorry :(
Zak Wralyn Redback Industries	Posted - 2007.08.29 03:22:00 - [18] Originally by: Valcoria Originally by: Zak Wralyn Just a suggestion, Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II [empty high slot] Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 10MN Afterburner II Missions specific Hardner T2 (primary dmg type) Missions specific Hardner T2 (secondary dmg type) Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Thermal Armor Rig I (Dont remember the correct name) This wil provide a more comprehensive tank and plug that thermal hole permanently while freeing up a low slot allowing you to then concentrate on the specific dmg types. End result will be a much stronger tank. I thought the Sac only had two rigs slots? I fit EANMs out of laziness. Fitting mission specific hardeners will always create a better tank. My bad, there are only two rig points. I forget that about the T2 ships. So your setup is pretty much what i would do, though i would consider a DCU II, it is slightly less on the armor resists than the EANM II but it avoids the stacking penalty so the difference is not as large as it appears and it makes up for it in the increase sheild buffer you will have and the massivly increased structure buffer you will have if things go astray... ______________________________________________ Zak Wralyn - Combat Pilot for Redback Industries
Cpt Cosmic	Posted - 2007.08.29 06:13:00 - [19] Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 29/08/2007 06:17:47 hi: 5 Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Mids: AB II Fleeting Web Large Capacitor Battery II (better than Cap Recharger due to Ship bonus) Cap Recharger II Lows: 2 Medium Armor Repper II Caldari Navy BCU 2 Rat Specific Hardener II Rigs: 2 Nano Pump drones: 3 Hobos II for longer range you can use javelins, not much of an issue I think because they go pretty far. setup fits perfectly, tanks like 500 dps, does about 300-380 dps (depending on range, javelins do less) and everything runs all day long + you can choose dmg type for specific rats/faction.
Zaqar	Posted - 2007.08.29 08:56:00 - [20] Swapping an Aux nano pump for a Nanobot Accelerator will improve your hp/s repaired - if your cap can handle it.

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