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Civah	Posted - 2007.08.28 20:29:00 - [1] Edited by: Civah on 28/08/2007 20:37:28 2 Medium unstable Neuts 3 HAMS T2 (Faction Loaded) 10MN MWD Large Cap battery T2 Warp disruper T2 3 Phased Muon sens damps Or T2 didnt think to test if they would fit :) might be nice to know 3 T2 cap relays 1 PDU Eggress port Polycarbon Drones 5 Hammers 2 Valk etc Or wotever takes ur fancy Implants mandatory Snakes for the Speed - expensive but well worth it. Hams hit out to 20km with max skillz, everything perma runs on cap recharge alone, tried and tested on Sisi. Orbit at 16km goes out to about 20km fine for ur Hams. :) Upgrade rigs etc to T2 if u like but not really needed. Altho you will need max cap skillz and in Navigation to make this really shine, recon 5 is also good which we all should have ^^. Would anyone like to fight this?? lol oopsie shulda been on the other curse thread but ahwell this setup is that uber it needed its own tbh hehe. - Edit
Lithel Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.28 20:36:00 - [2] Edited by: Lithel on 28/08/2007 20:37:05 Edited by: Lithel on 28/08/2007 20:36:43 Edit: I'm an idiot... Looks good. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Aramendel Amarr Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.08.28 20:38:00 - [3] Basically zero HP buffer and pretty low speed. Aggro from 5 med drones = major problems. Nevermind NPCs in a belt.
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.08.28 20:45:00 - [4] Originally by: Aramendel Basically zero HP buffer and pretty low speed. Aggro from 5 med drones = major problems. Nevermind NPCs in a belt. Asperger's anyone? You come off sounding like an ass almost 100% of the time, even if you "know what you're talking about" (which you sometimes do). You should work on your social skills if you want anyone to take you seriously. Liang Yarr?
Civah	Posted - 2007.08.28 20:46:00 - [5] Edited by: Civah on 28/08/2007 20:50:51 Edited by: Civah on 28/08/2007 20:48:12 orbit speed is plenty fast enough at 2.2km/s. Top speed 3km/s ish (Most ships wont do this). And dont just say its pretty rubbish without suggesting an alternative etc. jeez. Plus if this get tight tuck tail and run. Doh 3rd edit ug 5 medium drones only valk's will cause any trouble and they really aint gonna hit they hard condsidering the exp res on the sheild. Not 100 percent certain but i dont think the other will cause that much of a prob. Plus ppl tend to sick there own drones on the curses more often than not.
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.08.28 20:53:00 - [6] Originally by: Civah Edited by: Civah on 28/08/2007 20:50:51 Edited by: Civah on 28/08/2007 20:48:12 orbit speed is plenty fast enough at 2.2km/s. Top speed 3km/s ish (Most ships wont do this). And dont just say its pretty rubbish without suggesting an alternative etc. jeez. Plus if this get tight tuck tail and run. Doh 3rd edit ug 5 medium drones only valk's will cause any trouble and they really aint gonna hit they hard condsidering the exp res on the sheild. Not 100 percent certain but i dont think the other will cause that much of a prob. Plus ppl tend to sick there own drones on the curses more often than not. No, I think Aramendel was right with what's wrong with your setup. I just don't know enough about Curses to have suggested something constructive, or I would have. It strikes me that the cap battery + PDU may be wrong, though. Liang Yarr?
Aramendel Amarr Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.08.28 20:57:00 - [7] Originally by: Liang Nuren trolling as usual and wasting peoples time yawn Originally by: Civah orbit speed is plenty fast enough at 2.2km/s. Top speed 3km/s ish (Most ships wont do this). And dont just say its pretty rubbish without suggesting an alternative etc. jeez. Plus if this get tight tuck tail and run. No, 2.2 km/s is not "plenty fast enough". Its enough to avoid heavy drones and hammer2s. Other drones will reach you. Or, as said, npc aggro. Which can easily happen in something which isn't a sisi FFA arena. And a setup which has to have faction implants to work is IMO poorly thought out. Alternatives? 2 nos, 2 neuts, 1 whatever (offline probe launcher) mwd, scram, injector, 2 damps, LSE2 (or 3rd damp) 2 od2, 1 istab, 1 PDU (if you use LSE2) 3.2 km/s without snakes. Damp target to below 20k, keep that range. Get yourself to 5-10% cap, use nosses to fuel neuts. No need at all to use injector. Do not use MWD unless you absolutely have to (like if BC is using his MWD in an attempt to get close), disable neuts while using MWD. Once you start to get no cap from nosses (meaning target is below 5-10% cap) do another neut + nos cycle until you are basically empty, inject one 400 cap charge, use 1 single neut once for good measure. Finished. With the PDU fitting you can use at peak recharge one neut every ~30 sec to stop him from recharging while keeping your scram + EW up.
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.08.28 21:01:00 - [8] Originally by: Aramendel Originally by: Liang Nuren trolling as usual and wasting peoples time yawn Originally by: Civah orbit speed is plenty fast enough at 2.2km/s. Top speed 3km/s ish (Most ships wont do this). And dont just say its pretty rubbish without suggesting an alternative etc. jeez. Plus if this get tight tuck tail and run. No, 2.2 km/s is not "plenty fast enough". Its enough to avoid heavy drones and hammer2s. Other drones will reach you. Or, as said, npc aggro. Which can easily happen in something which isn't a sisi FFA arena. And a setup which has to have faction implants to work is IMO poorly thought out. Alternatives? 2 nos, 2 neuts, 1 whatever (offline probe launcher) mwd, scram, injector, 2 damps, LSE2 (or 3rd damp) 2 od2, 1 istab, 1 PDU (if you use LSE2) 3.2 km/s without snakes. Damp target to below 20k, keep that range. Get yourself to 5-10% cap, use nosses to fuel neuts. No need at all to use injector. Do not use MWD unless you absolutely have to (like if BC is using his MWD in an attempt to get close), disable neuts while using MWD. Once you start to get no cap from nosses (meaning target is below 5-10% cap) do another neut + nos cycle until you are basically empty, inject one 400 cap charge, use 1 single neut once for good measure. Finished. With the PDU fitting you can use at peak recharge one neut every ~30 sec to stop him from recharging while keeping your scram + EW up. Jeeze, got it stored in a notepad, or did you actually go look it up in the other thread? At any rate, I may troll (and I'll freely admit it), but you flame. =/ Which is worse? Meh, who knows... lol. I really do prefer to be a bit less *******'ish when telling someone they're a 'tard-o though. Liang Yarr?
Civah	Posted - 2007.08.28 21:02:00 - [9] Well true Hp buffer blah blah...... Need the PDU for fitting and Bat to keep things running. Sure u could use cap boosters etc fit some kind of paper thing armor tank or fit a couple of LSE's and speed fit. This setup works perfectly fine and tbh most ships have some kind of flaw nothings perfect. This for me presents best DPS, with the power to shut down someone tanks like the curse is supposed to do without capping itself out, which seems to be the major whine of the moment.
Civah	Posted - 2007.08.28 21:09:00 - [10] Well im sticking to mine, doesnt need cap boosters better dmg :). It may be alittle harder to fly being paper thin and all but i guess thats well some judgement actually comes into it. Thanks for the critique :)
Aramendel Amarr Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.08.28 21:13:00 - [11] Originally by: Liang Nuren Jeeze, got it stored in a notepad, or did you actually go look it up in the other thread? What do you expect me to do, retyping it again? He wanted an alternative. Quote: At any rate, I may troll (and I'll freely admit it), but you flame. =/ Which is worse? Meh, who knows... lol. Honestly I do not see where I flamed there. I did not say the setup is crap contrary what the OP claimed, I simply stated its disadvantages. If thats flaming then I do not know what isn't besides "OH MY GOD YOU ARE A FITTING GENIUS!" I only flame when people are stupid enough to annoy me.
Arkios Odymei D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.28 21:58:00 - [12] Well, Ive been playing with curse setups aswell and so far i have 2 that i particularly like. Here is the first. This is a remake of the current curse setups which involve nano'ing and orbiting outside of heavy nos range (without the use of cap boosters). The cap is pretty stable with everything running, but it's cap draining and EW powers seem a little lacking to me: Lows- Overdrive Injector System II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Mids- 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Dark Blood Warp Disruptor Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I Large Peroxide I Capacitor Power Cell Highs- Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Rigs- Polycarbon Engine Housing I Polycarbon Engine Housing I Here is my second setup which is not anything like the previous patche's "nano-curse" setups. I cam up with this one while keeping the Khanid philosophy in mind (thanks to khanid Mk2!). What is this again? Well... Close(r) ranged, strong armor, capacitor superiority, and the ability to use missiles (note this setup doesnt actualy use missiles, but some of the neuts and nos can be swapped around if you like): Lows- Small Armor Repairer II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Thermic Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Mids: 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Dark Blood Stasis Webifier Fleeting Warp Scrambler I Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I Sensor Booster II (or more EW) Highs- Small Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Neutralizer II Medium Nosferatu II Medium Nosferatu II Rigs- Anti-Kinetic Pump I Capacitor Control Circuit I This second one orbits at 13-14km while dumping all the small neuts and med nos on the target. ------------------------------------------------------------------
Robke Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.28 22:22:00 - [13] I don't know that much about curses, but I'd hazard a guess and say that "Asperger's anyone?" is more 'flamish' than pointing out disadvantages in a setup. --------- Do not follow the instructions in this signature.
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.08.28 22:33:00 - [14] Originally by: Robke I don't know that much about curses, but I'd hazard a guess and say that "Asperger's anyone?" is more 'flamish' than pointing out disadvantages in a setup. Then you should read more threads than this one. It was really a continuation of another conversation I'd had with him/her. Liang Yarr?
Kokoshu Caldari Militaris	Posted - 2007.08.28 23:45:00 - [15] get a room and have done with it

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