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Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.29 21:22:00 - [1] Short and sweet (for real this time) I have determined a nice profiting plan, and rather than run an IPO (i already have enough of those), this is just a simple bond offering that will reach maturity within 3 months. I won't tell you what it is, but Motivated Prophet is aware of my plan. This goes completely against all templates Hexxx and you other guys have made. * There won't be any shares * There won't be monthly dividends. * There won't be any disclosure * In the event of failure as per always I will fix it by funding people myself * You won't know what I am doing with the isk * You will recieve your bond money back in full plus a 20% bonus within 2-3 months of the date I have recieved 50% of the isk required. So as an example. Let's say 50% becomes available tomorrow, then I will have your money plus bonus back to you between 1st November, and 30th December Ricdic is proud to present another Ricdic production Looking forward to seeing your isk. Please send to Ricdic and label description as bond offering. Thank you for your time. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.29 21:28:00 - [2] For those who miss the subject. The bond is for 5.5 billion isk total. Nothing further will be required. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.29 21:38:00 - [3] 1 more post, if you are sending money please post in here with amount sent (use an alt if you want) just so we know when to stop taking more cash. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.29 21:43:00 - [4] Update : 4.1 billion isk has been recieved 1.4 billion isk remains to be claimed. Maturity will be 2-3 months from today's date. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Icarus Carlyle Gallente Streel Corporation	Posted - 2007.08.29 22:05:00 - [5] Originally by: Ricdic Edited by: Ricdic on 29/08/2007 21:44:59 Update : 4.6 billion isk has been recieved 900 million isk remains to be claimed. Maturity will be 2-3 months from today's date. edit: updated remaining bonds Put me down for 200 million if possible. I'm at work atm but will get funds to you in a few hours if I catch you before they sell out. Thanks.
Thetis Caldari NewDawn	Posted - 2007.08.29 22:10:00 - [6] Originally by: Icarus Carlyle Originally by: Ricdic Edited by: Ricdic on 29/08/2007 21:44:59 Update : 4.6 billion isk has been recieved 900 million isk remains to be claimed. Maturity will be 2-3 months from today's date. edit: updated remaining bonds Put me down for 200 million if possible. I'm at work atm but will get funds to you in a few hours if I catch you before they sell out. Thanks. I'll take whatever's left please :)
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.29 22:14:00 - [7] Edited by: Ricdic on 29/08/2007 22:15:31 700m mate. Thank you all for investing in a RICDIC production. I won't let you guys down. edit: Removed a terrible attempt at quoting. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Thetis Caldari NewDawn	Posted - 2007.08.29 22:21:00 - [8] Originally by: Ricdic 700m mate. Done & Sent
Hanoi Hana	Posted - 2007.08.29 22:55:00 - [9] Edited by: Hanoi Hana on 29/08/2007 22:57:35 Removed my post, was a good post but better left unsaid. Sorry to muck up your thread. :)
Quutar Caldari Auraxian Irregulars The Sundering	Posted - 2007.08.30 00:25:00 - [10] that is impressive 5.5 billion bond on your name alone (I am not insinuating anything... just amazed) good luck with your venture Not finding research slots in Empire Space? Try Quutar Research Services.
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2007.08.30 04:45:00 - [11] don't do these kind of things when im horoezontal! ^^ - WTS Rorqual BPO
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.30 05:36:00 - [12] Originally by: Roemy Schneider don't do these kind of things when im horoezontal! ^^ I second that I wanted some of this too
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.30 05:56:00 - [13] Originally by: Roemy Schneider don't do these kind of things when im horoezontal! ^^ I am probably in possession of half of your assets already You know the saying about too many eggs in one basket <3 Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
EMFi Manager EvE Mutual Fund Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.30 07:44:00 - [14] Originally by: Quutar 5.5 billion bond on your name alone Well it is more a personal toan with 20% over 3 months, on his name alone yes, he guarantees he will pay back the 120% even if the plan fails.. so.. yeah, wasn't too surprised he could get this in a day.
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.08.30 08:18:00 - [15] Originally by: Quutar that is impressive 5.5 billion bond on your name alone (I am not insinuating anything... just amazed) good luck with your venture While I will agree it is impressive in how quickly it sold based solely on a name, 5.5 billion is a relatively small sum. Many people on this forum can dish that much out without denting their wallet. I personally wish I felt someone was trustworthy enough and had a plan to use quite a lot more than this and would accept it all as a private investment. Unfortunately the trust that would be required for such large ventures is substantial... thus it comes back to the smaller investments, such as this one. Perhaps 10 people on these forums could offer such a bond and get it... maybe less. And when he pays it off he could easily get 10-15 I'd imagine, if he wanted to. But what you don't see is the people who finance these such ideas without even needing outside investors. Perhaps Ricdic didn't need them either and he just enjoys building up his reputation and helping the EVE market. If so then he is offering a tidy 20% for a 2-3 month period... very nice profit for no work and little risk if ya ask me. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.30 08:49:00 - [16] Edited by: Ricdic on 30/08/2007 08:49:55 Originally by: Shadarle While I will agree it is impressive in how quickly it sold based solely on a name, 5.5 billion is a relatively small sum. Many people on this forum can dish that much out without denting their wallet. I personally wish I felt someone was trustworthy enough and had a plan to use quite a lot more than this and would accept it all as a private investment. Unfortunately the trust that would be required for such large ventures is substantial... thus it comes back to the smaller investments, such as this one. Well thats the thing. If I needed more, I would have asked for it. That's the only reason I asked for 5.5b. Because I saw something I could make a lot of money off, which admittedly came to about 5.3b, and wanted to capitalise on this before it became known. So yeh, in closing, if I needed more, I would have asked for it, but I have never been one to try and have the biggest IPO's, or be the most trusted person in Eve, I just ask for what I need, nothing more. Quote: And when he pays it off he could easily get 10-15 I'd imagine, if he wanted to. I could probably get it now tbh. Especially as the 5.5b was all financed within about an hour. But as above, it wasn't necessary and I don't like putting too many eggs in one basket, especially when I am dealing with other people's money. Quote: But what you don't see is the people who finance these such ideas without even needing outside investors. Perhaps Ricdic didn't need them either and he just enjoys building up his reputation and helping the EVE market. If so then he is offering a tidy 20% for a 2-3 month period... very nice profit for no work and little risk if ya ask me. I enjoy the public getting into my ideas, I don't really think the rep needs that much work, the EBANK will truly test that. I have a fair few in-game people I could ask but I dont like putting people on the spot. I prefer to offer it to a whole lot of people at once, and allow them to invest solely based on what they read, or walk away happily. That's why I chose public over private. People can take offence to being asked for things, in comparison to here where people are asking me if I will take their money. Cheers. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Jon Asus	Posted - 2007.08.30 11:16:00 - [17] Awww shucks, and I was about to give him the full 5.5bil and he's already got it... Oh well.
Tailhook Caldari Hotchies	Posted - 2007.08.30 11:26:00 - [18] Originally by: Jon Asus Awww shucks, and I was about to give him the full 5.5bil and he's already got it... Oh well. Yeah thats very impressive, raising 5.5b on your face, saying you are going to do something secret, which will forever stay secret is nice by itself, but in less than 1 hour Guess I am not camping forums enough.
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.30 11:55:00 - [19] I will tell people what I am doing after it has completed (on the condition that it doesn't remain profitable to repeat it again). If I succeed and feel it can be repeated, I will speak to existing investors and see if they want to go another 3 month round and expand if/where necessary, but one thing at a time here. First I need to ensure a successful operation which I personally think will be no problem. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Tailhook Caldari Hotchies	Posted - 2007.08.30 12:32:00 - [20] Originally by: Ricdic I will tell people what I am doing after it has completed (on the condition that it doesn't remain profitable to repeat it again). If I succeed and feel it can be repeated, I will speak to existing investors and see if they want to go another 3 month round and expand if/where necessary, but one thing at a time here. First I need to ensure a successful operation which I personally think will be no problem. Rule #12. Anything worth selling is worth selling twice Unless the venture is patch related, and fastmoving is a requirement for success
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.30 13:39:00 - [21] Originally by: Tailhook Originally by: Ricdic I will tell people what I am doing after it has completed (on the condition that it doesn't remain profitable to repeat it again). If I succeed and feel it can be repeated, I will speak to existing investors and see if they want to go another 3 month round and expand if/where necessary, but one thing at a time here. First I need to ensure a successful operation which I personally think will be no problem. Rule #12. Anything worth selling is worth selling twice Unless the venture is patch related, and fastmoving is a requirement for success Well the reason I kept it secret, is that the second I mention what it is, every man and his dog will jump on it. There is potential for phenomenal profit margins (closer to 40% over the period) but if the market is flooded it will remove my ability to capitalise. Having said that, 2 months is quite some time, so for all I know someone has already capitalised and not yet reached fruition, but it's a risk I am happy to take as I don't believe this is the case (at least not on a ground-breaking level). And no, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the new patch Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Imperius Blackheart Caldari Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.30 15:46:00 - [22] Ok mate, i'll bite, i'll potentially hand over 1 billion of my hard earned isk for this, mainly because i'm curious as hell if it will be a scam or not, generally before investing I expect a business plan I can have faith in. You offer nothing... its crazy to invest in but why not. But before I do you used MP's name which to me lends some credablity to the offering, if MP says its good its good with me... if MP is "aware of it" (and is laughing in the background becuase he thinks its dumb) then I ain't interested
Hexxx Minmatar ironwood ink	Posted - 2007.08.30 16:05:00 - [23] On a slightly academic side note to this, anyone care to guess what the value of Ricdic's name/reputation is in monetary terms? It would be interesting if people assigned values to "brands" or reputations just like real companies do. (Pepsi puts a dollar value on their "brand" of Pepsi for example. Even though it is not a physical asset, just a name, it's value is estimated in their balance sheets.) Hexxx LLP - Business Consulting Services - IPO's, Business Plans, Share/Stock Pricing, and general Consulting.
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.30 16:25:00 - [24] Originally by: Imperius Blackheart Ok mate, i'll bite, i'll potentially hand over 1 billion of my hard earned isk for this, mainly because i'm curious as hell if it will be a scam or not, generally before investing I expect a business plan I can have faith in. You offer nothing... its crazy to invest in but why not. But before I do you used MP's name which to me lends some credablity to the offering, if MP says its good its good with me... if MP is "aware of it" (and is laughing in the background becuase he thinks its dumb) then I ain't interested I used MP as he actually knows the plan nothing more, not an endorsement. I don't know if you have ever heard of C-R-A, C-P-H, TCCS or the Zzz Alliance, but I have been in possession of well over 50b of public shareholders funds now for over a year. Feel free to get www.eve-search.com opened up and throw my name in there. I also secure CAP4U by locking down LaVista Vista's bpo's as a security to the investment to the tune of 20 billion isk. Either way this is purely academic as I have already filled the bond issuance (it was filled within an hour of creation). It wasn't filled because people blindly deposited isk, but because some people actually know who I am and what I do. You seem rather new to the market discussions forum so I would recommend you do some research to see where I come from I see what you are trying to do, and a lot of us have been doing it for over a year now, analysing business opportunities and ensuring scams and the likes are weeded out, but normally those who do the analysis know their history. Anyway, not trying to have a dig, but check EGSE if you like, and you will find that about 20% of the active corps listed on there are either run by me or secured by me. Hexxx, that is a valid point, I would be curious to know the value the public put on my head tbh. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.30 16:29:00 - [25] Originally by: Imperius Blackheart Ok mate, i'll bite, i'll potentially hand over 1 billion of my hard earned isk for this, mainly because i'm curious as hell if it will be a scam or not, generally before investing I expect a business plan I can have faith in. You offer nothing... its crazy to invest in but why not. But before I do you used MP's name which to me lends some credablity to the offering, if MP says its good its good with me... if MP is "aware of it" (and is laughing in the background becuase he thinks its dumb) then I ain't interested I know Ricdic's plan. And i can assure you, if he wants to scam, its not gonna be for a silly 5,5bill. His plan is well thought out.
Hexxx Minmatar ironwood ink	Posted - 2007.08.30 16:31:00 - [26] As Ricdic said, there are a few of us here who are old hands to the market. Unfortunetly we won't be around forever, so never feel afraid to question or ask for additional details on investments or the people who run them. Hexxx LLP - Business Consulting Services - IPO's, Business Plans, Share/Stock Pricing, and general Consulting.
Meleil	Posted - 2007.08.30 16:35:00 - [27] Ricdic's name alone is imo, worth tens of billions of isk... maybe even hundreds ^^ ~Mel
Tailhook Caldari Hotchies	Posted - 2007.08.30 16:44:00 - [28] Originally by: Hexxx On a slightly academic side note to this, anyone care to guess what the value of Ricdic's name/reputation is in monetary terms? Well judging from this thread the brand is worth a lot by itself, I would hazard a guess of tripple figured billions. Part of this arises fromt the fact any buyer would have scamming potential in this range
Imperius Blackheart Caldari Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.30 19:35:00 - [29] Edited by: Imperius Blackheart on 30/08/2007 19:37:14 Originally by: Ricdic Originally by: Imperius Blackheart Ok mate, i'll bite, i'll potentially hand over 1 billion of my hard earned isk for this, mainly because i'm curious as hell if it will be a scam or not, generally before investing I expect a business plan I can have faith in. You offer nothing... its crazy to invest in but why not. But before I do you used MP's name which to me lends some credablity to the offering, if MP says its good its good with me... if MP is "aware of it" (and is laughing in the background becuase he thinks its dumb) then I ain't interested I used MP as he actually knows the plan nothing more, not an endorsement. I don't know if you have ever heard of C-R-A, C-P-H, TCCS or the Zzz Alliance, but I have been in possession of well over 50b of public shareholders funds now for over a year. Feel free to get www.eve-search.com opened up and throw my name in there. I also secure CAP4U by locking down LaVista Vista's bpo's as a security to the investment to the tune of 20 billion isk. Either way this is purely academic as I have already filled the bond issuance (it was filled within an hour of creation). It wasn't filled because people blindly deposited isk, but because some people actually know who I am and what I do. You seem rather new to the market discussions forum so I would recommend you do some research to see where I come from I see what you are trying to do, and a lot of us have been doing it for over a year now, analysing business opportunities and ensuring scams and the likes are weeded out, but normally those who do the analysis know their history. Anyway, not trying to have a dig, but check EGSE if you like, and you will find that about 20% of the active corps listed on there are either run by me or secured by me. Hexxx, that is a valid point, I would be curious to know the value the public put on my head tbh. LOL i'm not new to market discussions, and I hold shares in all your publicly listed corps currently ;) Plus you wrote to me earlier about this thread, i'm just curious as hell what this is thats all, and as all your other business's have clear plans and generally I have a rule not to invest in anything I don't understand this thread was somewhat of a dilema for me. But what the hell i'll risk it. Put me down for a billion, i'll transfer the isk tomorrow, bit busy helping training for some torny thats on tomorrow or something right now. (You actually already hold over 5 billion isk of mine over 2 charaters atm incidently, doesn't mean I usually like to know what I am investing in :P)
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.08.30 19:45:00 - [30] He can't put you down for a billion. He already sold all the bonds (500m of them to me, for that matter). MP -- Proud steward of 47 billion isk in public money, and counting. Ask me about mineral compression!

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