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Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.31 01:46:00 - [1] What's the current status of ex G / D¦ people ? Were they chasen away from north or have they even left the game ? Don't see the *****s in the Alliance tournament. Ok D2 did very bad in the last tournament anyways, SpiralJunkie even called them noobs because they were using t1 drones in one of their battles, but now they completeley abandonned the tournament, turning themselves into nonames/nonexistants ? Or are they back after summer break like some of them announced a while ago ? But why don't we see them in tournament pairings ?
Lowanaera Amarr Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.31 01:51:00 - [2] Ev0ke is still around, and still owns EC. Saw a gang of them down in our area a few days ago.
Daxit Caldari Lacedaemon. Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.08.31 01:58:00 - [3] you will find most of them have moved to Rule of Three in the drone regions
hisgoatness Calista Industries Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.08.31 02:15:00 - [4] Theres a few of them hanging around Solitude/Syndicate flexing their motherships.
Orion Phoenix Aliastra	Posted - 2007.08.31 03:44:00 - [5] Some formed Ev0ke, Others formed Mostly Harmless after D2 formally disbanded.
Fendra Caldari Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.08.31 04:13:00 - [6] Don't forget KRAFTWERK aswell.
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.08.31 06:23:00 - [7] D2 broke up and now - Ev0ke has EC and is gangking people/pirating - Mostly Harmless is in the northern drone regions, eventually helping Razor - Kraftwerk has a sov4 constellation and is selling Motherships - Some people joined various other alliances, for example Against All Authorities
Anglo Minmatar Astral Mexicans	Posted - 2007.08.31 07:05:00 - [8] they are around! planing stuff..
Astarte Nosferatu We Know Derek Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2007.08.31 07:37:00 - [9] They split up, infiltrated almost every major alliance in EvE and are now patiently waiting to execute "the masterplan" . signature removed - please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected]) snip Do not discuss moderation in your sig - hutch
Sinder Ohm Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.08.31 07:56:00 - [10] Originally by: Daxit you will find most of them have moved to Rule of Three in the drone regions Please get your facts straight, we have NOT joined rule of three, we are thier neighbors. Thankyou. Originally by: Karanth Wimps play empire. Real men play in 0.0. Hardcore masochists live out in drone space.
Silvana Starbreeze key tech limited	Posted - 2007.08.31 10:28:00 - [11] Considering the Alliance Tournament - i think a lot of people just don`t care about it ?
Tassi Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.31 11:29:00 - [12] CE ftw. Originally by: fire 59 i don't know of any bobs that have cheated
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Cataclysm Enterprises Kraftwerk.	Posted - 2007.08.31 11:34:00 - [13] Originally by: Tassi CE ftw. Signed. Thanks Tassi. We do a few more things than sellings Motherships. Expect more soon.
Tassi Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.31 11:37:00 - [14] Originally by: Deviana Sevidon We do a few more things than sellings Motherships. You will give me one for free? YAY Originally by: fire 59 i don't know of any bobs that have cheated
Frances Ducoir Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.31 11:37:00 - [15] they are there, but scattered to the four winds. as you might know, germans were never very good in doing stuff as a whole nation, their smaller member states alone did better. also want to mention that the op is a bad flamebait. snip Signiture remoted because it contained profanity - hutch
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Cataclysm Enterprises Kraftwerk.	Posted - 2007.08.31 11:44:00 - [16] Originally by: Tassi You will give me one for free? YAY No, but I will give you a 7/10 for trying.
sakana North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.08.31 12:11:00 - [17] If you define those who do not take part in the tourny as "nonames" or "nonexistants" then...well...you fail.
Emeline Cabernet Amarr DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.31 16:09:00 - [18] how much does ce charge for a ms?
Eaan Thurs Cataclysm Enterprises Kraftwerk.	Posted - 2007.08.31 16:32:00 - [19] You¦re welcome to join our official channel "cash" and ask the ppl who are responsible for that..
Tassi Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.31 16:43:00 - [20] Originally by: Emeline Cabernet how much does ce charge for a ms? You will have to survive 30 minutes of cybering with me :P Disclaimer: I listen to Fall Out Boy while cybering and so will you! I have tried to create and alt called Fall Out Boy but everytime I hit the character selection screen I get these intense feelings when trying to delete an existing alt, tears pop out of my eyes and I start to cry, its a mess Originally by: fire 59 i don't know of any bobs that have cheated
RheinKraft10 Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke	Posted - 2007.08.31 16:44:00 - [21] Originally by: Silvana Starbreeze Considering the Alliance Tournament - i think a lot of people just don`t care about it ? True words are spoken!
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.31 17:39:00 - [22] Originally by: RheinKraft10 Originally by: Silvana Starbreeze Considering the Alliance Tournament - i think a lot of people just don`t care about it ? True words are spoken! Bah, the tournament is like a big PR event, alliances get a lot of fame, not only by their neighbours but by the whole community that watches eve tv. Not to care about this is like ... dont't know .. like not to care about the alliances reputation. Can't imagine there were not enough members who did not want to participate ? Bad move to not care about it ... if you have a chance to be in the eve media and don't take it it's not good for the alliance. (Hope i won't get a troll warning for this like for the OP :()
Gordon Red SteelVipers YouWhat	Posted - 2007.08.31 18:11:00 - [23] FSP and STV split from D2 long ago and formed YouWhat.
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Cataclysm Enterprises Kraftwerk.	Posted - 2007.08.31 18:16:00 - [24] Have you considered that there are corps and alliances that PvP for fun. That respect their enemies and have respect in return? Sorry to have to break it to you, but I can do easily without CAOD. Our enemies and our friends know how we fight, but they do not feel the need to open a thread about it at every opportunity, nor do we will do so. About the PR thing, we play this game for fun, not for CAOD attention seeking, with their usual 0,5seconds of glory followed by a hell of a flamefests.
Gordon Red SteelVipers YouWhat	Posted - 2007.08.31 19:52:00 - [25] I totally agree with you Deviana. And I hardly see much germans doing "forum warrioring". IMHO it has something to do with the average age of a german EVE player.
Dopple Black Claw Exploratory	Posted - 2007.08.31 20:15:00 - [26] Originally by: Anglo they are around! planing stuff.. Glad to hear I am not the only one who enjoys woodworking. Made my son a rubber band gun the other day.
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.31 20:46:00 - [27] Originally by: Gordon Red I totally agree with you Deviana. And I hardly see much germans doing "forum warrioring". IMHO it has something to do with the average age of a german EVE player. That's because some of the german corps don't allow their members to post here (except diplomats etc.). But i think it's a big mistake. Propaganda is important in any war, if you guys fail to understand that then you don't understand much of psychological warfare. Propaganda boosts the morale of members, makes them fight with passion, not giving up to fast, boosts the morale of allys, give them confidence they are about to win is important. Propaganda influence the decisions of other corps, how and if to take sides in a war (noone likes to ally up with someon who is seen as being about to dissolve or something), it might intimidate the enemy and many other things. No wonder you lost the war against BoB and allies, since they obviously understand very well how important propaganda is. Just watch how much real $ is spend in advertising/pr/propaganda in the real world, maybe then you understand it's importance
Torquemanda Corteaz Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.08.31 21:08:00 - [28] Edited by: Torquemanda Corteaz on 31/08/2007 21:10:47 we're not all german some of us most definitely did not join RoT we live next door we (3-i/xt/oe) sell motherships just as ce does, now the north and south are covered :) last tournament black lance were the d2 team, and I seriously doubt them using t1 drones, I would remember seeing it, I don't think the alliance was too interested in participation i remember the discussion about the tournament being rather short(<3 black lance) Originally by: Deviana Sevidon We do a few more things than sellings Motherships. Expect more soon. wotankn still rolling with you darlings?
Crean NaVar Cataclysm Enterprises Kraftwerk.	Posted - 2007.08.31 21:33:00 - [29] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba That's because ... or it might have something to do with the fact that this forum is full of silly troll attempts like yours nowadays. Get lost, alt. We don¦t need your advice.
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.31 22:02:00 - [30] Originally by: Crean NaVar Originally by: Yakia TovilToba That's because ... or it might have something to do with the fact that this forum is full of silly troll attempts like yours nowadays. Get lost, alt. We don¦t need your advice. Pff you know that i'm right and just can't take the truth
Sinder Ohm Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.08.31 22:10:00 - [31] Edited by: Sinder Ohm on 31/08/2007 22:12:13 I REALLY love this product . Forum troll flyswatter Originally by: Karanth Wimps play empire. Real men play in 0.0. Hardcore masochists live out in drone space.
Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.08.31 22:20:00 - [32] kraftwerk is a great example of how ppl bend over and take it twice, only for not having to take risks or change their gameplay. how they can look into the mirror is beyond me. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
Cmd Woodlouse moon7empler Ev0ke	Posted - 2007.08.31 22:43:00 - [33] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba What's the current status of ex G / D¦ people ? Were they chasen away from north or have they even left the game ? Don't see the snip Don't use such terms on this forum. -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected]) in the Alliance tournament. Ok D2 did very bad in the last tournament anyways, SpiralJunkie even called them noobs because they were using t1 drones in one of their battles, but now they completeley abandonned the tournament, turning themselves into nonames/nonexistants ? Or are they back after summer break like some of them announced a while ago ? But why don't we see them in tournament pairings ? Well, G and D2 aswell sucked in those so called "championships". They however didnt on the battlefield. And they wont come back. Atleast thats what every alliance hopes for that had a grudge against them. Have a nice night. And nice dreams....
Cmd Woodlouse moon7empler Ev0ke	Posted - 2007.08.31 22:45:00 - [34] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists kraftwerk is a great example of how ppl bend over and take it twice, only for not having to take risks or change their gameplay. how they can look into the mirror is beyond me. Its beyond me how somebody can talk about a mirror while being in BoB and talking about gameplay - metaboy.
Ponderous Thunderstroke Republic War Machine Industries	Posted - 2007.09.01 07:54:00 - [35] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists kraftwerk is a great example of how ppl bend over and take it twice, only for not having to take risks or change their gameplay. how they can look into the mirror is beyond me. I don't remember kraftwerk needing a damage control team to spin their many scandals and outright cheating though...
Khorian Gallente Excidium.	Posted - 2007.09.01 10:01:00 - [36] Edited by: Khorian on 01/09/2007 10:01:41 Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists kraftwerk is a great example of how ppl bend over and take it twice, only for not having to take risks or change their gameplay. how they can look into the mirror is beyond me. Its beyond me how somebody can talk about a mirror while being in BoB and talking about gameplay - metaboy. What is Kraftwerk doing? Who are you fighting? To the uninformed it might seem you are allready isolating yourself in your little home again, carebearing and building capitals and ships for the "great things to come" and then when the **** hits the fan, you might just dissolve again. Like D2. Same thing with Ev0ke. Honest question here, I just want to know who you guys are fighting on a large scale atm.
Schneiderr Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke	Posted - 2007.09.01 10:45:00 - [37] me so guilty
Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.01 10:57:00 - [38] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists kraftwerk is a great example of how ppl bend over and take it twice, only for not having to take risks or change their gameplay. how they can look into the mirror is beyond me. Its beyond me how somebody can talk about a mirror while being in BoB and talking about gameplay - metaboy. what a stupid thing to say, our gameplay was never altered by any gms, nor was it ever suggested that an gm altered our gameplay - 1ship and some ammo t2 bpos a dev spawned for himself didnt make our guns do more dmg. kraftwerk ont he other hand had the chance to take their land, the mad pact was weak and shouldnt have been a prolbem, but kraftwerk ahs been told by the goons to stop the attack - and they obey! they obey tot he goons, who smacked them so hard ont he forums just a few days before when d2 was about to fold. i mean seriously, those are the same goons d2 ranted about when they fought each other in xzh... - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
Ponderous Thunderstroke Republic War Machine Industries	Posted - 2007.09.01 10:58:00 - [39] Just capitulate and put everyone but Dianabolic on forum-ignore already, you white-flag waving forum-quitter.
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.01 11:05:00 - [40] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists look yourself in the mirror etc. Kraftwerk was not a change in allegiance when it was founded, maybe you should look yourself in the mirror because you one day stopped and said: "Hey, I can't beat them, I'll join them."
Kirah Ovai Altcenaries	Posted - 2007.09.01 11:09:00 - [41] Zese are not ze Germanz you're looking for.
Saul Reaver UK Corp FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.01 11:47:00 - [42] Originally by: Silvana Starbreeze Considering the Alliance Tournament - i think a lot of people just don`t care about it ? Especially now we have too pay MORE money too watch it. I wont be watching it thats for sure.
Maltroc Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke	Posted - 2007.09.01 11:55:00 - [43] Originally by: Gnulpie - Ev0ke has EC and is gangking people/pirating \o/ Yarrr ---
MacDuncan Minmatar Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke	Posted - 2007.09.01 14:21:00 - [44] Edited by: MacDuncan on 01/09/2007 14:21:49 Well...we're still figuring out how the comms are working... Comms? -- Might As well Train Another Race
Kura Accipter Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.01 14:26:00 - [45] Originally by: Saul Reaver Originally by: Silvana Starbreeze Considering the Alliance Tournament - i think a lot of people just don`t care about it ? Especially now we have too pay MORE money too watch it. I wont be watching it thats for sure. It is free
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.09.01 15:12:00 - [46] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists kraftwerk is a great example of how ppl bend over and take it twice, only for not having to take risks or change their gameplay. how they can look into the mirror is beyond me. LOL BoB talking about e-honour? That made my day. I had a good laugh, thanks.
Cmd Woodlouse moon7empler Ev0ke	Posted - 2007.09.01 17:51:00 - [47] Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 01/09/2007 17:54:19 Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists kraftwerk is a great example of how ppl bend over and take it twice, only for not having to take risks or change their gameplay. how they can look into the mirror is beyond me. Its beyond me how somebody can talk about a mirror while being in BoB and talking about gameplay - metaboy. what a stupid thing to say, our gameplay was never altered by any gms, nor was it ever suggested that an gm altered our gameplay - 1ship and some ammo t2 bpos a dev spawned for himself didnt make our guns do more dmg. kraftwerk ont he other hand had the chance to take their land, the mad pact was weak and shouldnt have been a prolbem, but kraftwerk ahs been told by the goons to stop the attack - and they obey! they obey tot he goons, who smacked them so hard ont he forums just a few days before when d2 was about to fold. i mean seriously, those are the same goons d2 ranted about when they fought each other in xzh... STV and co. alias YouWhat alwyas ranted about BoB and now? SO they are also bendovers? Also, i talked about metagaming - which is FAR worse in the eyes of alot of players than an alliance using diplomatic solutions, not by guns. Dont evade the truth.
Teron D'Amun The Burning Orphans Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.01 19:28:00 - [48] Edited by: Teron D''Amun on 01/09/2007 19:28:25 Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse STV and co. alias YouWhat alwyas ranted about BoB and now? SO they are also bendovers? Also, i talked about metagaming - which is FAR worse in the eyes of alot of players than an alliance using diplomatic solutions, not by guns. Dont evade the truth. I hStt gern noch a frisch g'zopft's Paulaner fnr mi und meine Freund Tinfoilhat-Waldlaus hier. Gute Besserung!
Steven McWayne Gallente Decadence.	Posted - 2007.09.02 00:29:00 - [49] We're shooting stuff...
Cmd Woodlouse moon7empler Ev0ke	Posted - 2007.09.02 00:44:00 - [50] Originally by: Teron D'Amun Edited by: Teron D''Amun on 01/09/2007 19:28:25 Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse STV and co. alias YouWhat alwyas ranted about BoB and now? SO they are also bendovers? Also, i talked about metagaming - which is FAR worse in the eyes of alot of players than an alliance using diplomatic solutions, not by guns. Dont evade the truth. I hStt gern noch a frisch g'zopft's Paulaner fnr mi und meine Freund Tinfoilhat-Waldlaus hier. Gute Besserung! Mia hom nia son schmarrn wie spione braucht! Wemma scho vo eiern in de buxen spricht, dann solld ma sei goschen holdn wemma zuglei in BoB is! Dangsch÷, mia gehts gut, besser konns nit wern.
Liet Traep Minmatar Black Lance oooh Shiny	Posted - 2007.09.02 05:32:00 - [51] Originally by: Torquemanda Corteaz Edited by: Torquemanda Corteaz on 31/08/2007 21:10:47 we're not all german some of us most definitely did not join RoT we live next door we (3-i/xt/oe) sell motherships just as ce does, now the north and south are covered :) last tournament black lance were the d2 team, and I seriously doubt them using t1 drones, I would remember seeing it, I don't think the alliance was too interested in participation i remember the discussion about the tournament being rather short(<3 black lance)That tournament brings back bad memories. I'm the one who put the D2 team together. The alliance didn't have any plans to join the tournament so I asked around and we put a team together from black lance on d2's behalf. I can honestly say it's nothing like real pvp. Between the lag and the small ring size and just the general poor performance we did I really didn't enjoy it. But I we did our best to represent our alliance when no one else was interested. Originally by: Deviana Sevidon We do a few more things than sellings Motherships. Expect more soon. wotankn still rolling with you darlings? That tournament brings back bad memories. I'm the one who put the D2 team together. The alliance didn't have any plans to join the tournament so I asked around and we put a team together from black lance on d2's behalf. I can honestly say it's nothing like real pvp. Between the lag and the small ring size and just the general poor performance we did I really didn't enjoy it. But I we did our best to represent our alliance when no one else was interested. So we didn't do well. But at least we showed up.
Sinder Ohm Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.09.02 11:13:00 - [52] Originally by: MacDuncan Edited by: MacDuncan on 01/09/2007 14:21:49 Well...we're still figuring out how the comms are working... Comms? You owe me a new keyboard Originally by: Karanth Wimps play empire. Real men play in 0.0. Hardcore masochists live out in drone space.
RheinKraft10 Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke	Posted - 2007.09.02 12:17:00 - [53] Edited by: RheinKraft10 on 02/09/2007 12:17:56 Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Originally by: RheinKraft10 Originally by: Silvana Starbreeze Considering the Alliance Tournament - i think a lot of people just don`t care about it ? True words are spoken! Bah, the tournament is like a big PR event, alliances get a lot of fame, not only by their neighbours but by the whole community that watches eve tv. Not to care about this is like ... dont't know .. like not to care about the alliances reputation. Can't imagine there were not enough members who did not want to participate ? Bad move to not care about it ... if you have a chance to be in the eve media and don't take it it's not good for the alliance. (Hope i won't get a troll warning for this like for the OP :() Erm ... so YOU think your ally only gets reputation when they join a tournament? The "real" reputation you win outside the tournaments!
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.02 15:40:00 - [54] Originally by: RheinKraft10 Erm ... so YOU think your ally only gets reputation when they join a tournament? The "real" reputation you win outside the tournaments! I never said "only" but it's defenitely a big event and a good chance to get your alliance more known. It's like the olypic games of eve, or like the world soccer tournament. Remember Germany 2006 ? Billions have been spend on this event, in some countries the sucessfull teams got big houses from the government and are like national heros, becaus they brought a bit of fame and glance on their country in the tournament. A lot of people watch this pvp championship and they hear a lot about those aliances who participate, but nothing on yours. A wise corporation leader (rl corporation) once said "if your corporation is not in the media, it does not exist" .. ofc. this does not 100% apply to eve, but if you are a larger alliance, a major player in eve politics you need to be known and not being a noname to everyone but your direct neighbours.
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.02 16:40:00 - [55] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Originally by: RheinKraft10 Erm ... so YOU think your ally only gets reputation when they join a tournament? The "real" reputation you win outside the tournaments! I never said "only" but it's defenitely a big event and a good chance to get your alliance more known. It's like the olypic games of eve, or like the world soccer tournament. Remember Germany 2006 ? Billions have been spend on this event, in some countries the sucessfull teams got big houses from the government and are like national heros, becaus they brought a bit of fame and glance on their country in the tournament. A lot of people watch this pvp championship and they hear a lot about those aliances who participate, but nothing on yours. A wise corporation leader (rl corporation) once said "if your corporation is not in the media, it does not exist" .. ofc. this does not 100% apply to eve, but if you are a larger alliance, a major player in eve politics you need to be known and not being a noname to everyone but your direct neighbours. Meh... so i joined alliance that doesnt count anywhere again :(
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.02 16:58:00 - [56] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Meh... so i joined alliance that doesnt count anywhere again :( Wrong, your alliance is present in the tournament with the lovely Angel X
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.02 17:17:00 - [57] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Originally by: Deva Blackfire Meh... so i joined alliance that doesnt count anywhere again :( Wrong, your alliance is present in the tournament with the lovely Angel X Oops
Bein Glorious GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.02 17:23:00 - [58] jetzt wissen Sie wirklich, ist da¯ was, ist, 0wned zu werden
Teron D'Amun The Burning Orphans Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.02 17:27:00 - [59] Originally by: Bein Glorious jetzt wissen Sie wirklich, ist da¯ was, ist, 0wned zu werden this is a creative use of commas
Mythrell Minmatar Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.09.03 05:08:00 - [60] We had some talk in forums about joining tournament but there was only handful of people interested. When it comes to ze germans, I guess it's all about efficiency and ISKfests like these are not an option.
Sinder Ohm Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.09.03 06:30:00 - [61] Originally by: Mythrell We had some talk in forums about joining tournament but there was only handful of people interested. When it comes to ze germans, I guess it's all about efficiency and ISKfests like these are not an option. Yeah zee Germans are all on Hartz 4, so we cant afford it. Hi mom. Originally by: Karanth Wimps play empire. Real men play in 0.0. Hardcore masochists live out in drone space.
Dionisius Gallente The School of Fine Art	Posted - 2007.09.03 09:20:00 - [62] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Originally by: Gordon Red I totally agree with you Deviana. And I hardly see much germans doing "forum warrioring". IMHO it has something to do with the average age of a german EVE player. That's because some of the german corps don't allow their members to post here (except diplomats etc.). But i think it's a big mistake. Propaganda is important in any war, if you guys fail to understand that then you don't understand much of psychological warfare. Propaganda boosts the morale of members, makes them fight with passion, not giving up to fast, boosts the morale of allys, give them confidence they are about to win is important. Propaganda influence the decisions of other corps, how and if to take sides in a war (noone likes to ally up with someon who is seen as being about to dissolve or something), it might intimidate the enemy and many other things. No wonder you lost the war against BoB and allies, since they obviously understand very well how important propaganda is. Just watch how much real $ is spend in advertising/pr/propaganda in the real world, maybe then you understand it's importance Propaganda my ae, propaganda and media spoil wars in eVe and out of it, btw, RL has no bearing in here so leave it out. And ftr, i hate to give you the same news as some other players, the Alliance Tourney isn't that important, there are ALOT of other corps and alliances that are fighting and respected to both their friends and foes and do well without propaganda. Oh and btw, good pr doesn't dissolve a corp, its good shooting and well planned and executed wars. Have a nice day now. _______________________ Dionisius - "In Vino Veritas"... did someone say wine?**
mamolian M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.09.03 09:28:00 - [63] Originally by: MacDuncan Edited by: MacDuncan on 01/09/2007 14:21:49 Well...we're still figuring out how the comms are working... Comms? -------------------------------

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