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Grapez
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.02 15:45:00 -
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If the MWD is a little warp drive, how come warp scrammers and jammers don't disable it? Why aren't they just called "really farking big afterburners (RFBAB)?" @º¬íí-T«+ºH for all your political humor needs |

Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.09.02 15:48:00 -
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Because you touch yourself at night
next question.
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Khadur
Minmatar Spontaneous Defenestration The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.09.02 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Captian Internet Because you touch yourself at night
next question.
lmao
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2007.09.02 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Captian Internet Because you touch yourself at night
Is it lonely up there on your pedestal?
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Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.09.02 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Captian Internet Because you touch yourself at night
Is it lonely up there on your pedestal?
yes
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Grapez
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.02 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Captian Internet Because you touch yourself at night
Damnit, going blind with hairy palms AND MWD's remain overpowered, fit-or-die modules?! That's too much. @º¬íí-T«+ºH for all your political humor needs |

Dr Paithos
Minmatar Republic Deep Space Institute
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Posted - 2007.09.02 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Grapez
Originally by: Captian Internet Because you touch yourself at night
Damnit, going blind with hairy palms AND MWD's remain overpowered, fit-or-die modules?! That's too much.
You can avoid the going blind by aiming further down
Originally by: RedFall How dare you try to argue my point with your so called "evidence". I don't need any, I have truthiness on my side.
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Avalira
Caldari Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.09.02 17:42:00 -
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It's actually a nice idea, although I wouldn't go for scramblers/disrupters totaly disabling a MWD, it could slow them down.
In any case, you should post this in the "Ideas and Suggestions" forums, not here.
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Illminatis
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Posted - 2007.09.02 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Avalira It's actually a nice idea, although I wouldn't go for scramblers/disrupters totaly disabling a MWD, it could slow them down.
In any case, you should post this in the "Ideas and Suggestions" forums, not here.
I believe the module you are thinking of is already in game, though it works against ALL ships not just MWD/AB ships.
Stasis Webifier I
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Steel Tigeress
Gallente Steel-Wolfs
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Posted - 2007.09.02 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Illminatis
Originally by: Avalira It's actually a nice idea, although I wouldn't go for scramblers/disrupters totaly disabling a MWD, it could slow them down.
In any case, you should post this in the "Ideas and Suggestions" forums, not here.
I believe the module you are thinking of is already in game, though it works against ALL ships not just MWD/AB ships.
Stasis Webifier I
Wow, thats so smart, go tell mom you need a cookie.
Then realize that with a 10 KM range a web is ineffective against shipt that are going fast, as the ship will just coast out of range.
Try harder next time Einstein.
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Dr Paithos
Minmatar Republic Deep Space Institute
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Posted - 2007.09.02 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Steel Tigeress Wow, thats so smart, go tell mom you need a cookie.
Then realize that with a 10 KM range a web is ineffective against shipt that are going fast, as the ship will just coast out of range.
Try harder next time Einstein.
Yes, the same way as sensor damps are ineffective as you can just get close, or guns are ineffective as you can just log off 
Originally by: RedFall How dare you try to argue my point with your so called "evidence". I don't need any, I have truthiness on my side.
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Wild Rho
Amarr Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.09.02 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Captian Internet Because you touch yourself at night
next question.
wooooooOOOOOOooooooo! You go girl!
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Avalira
Caldari Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.09.02 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Illminatis
Originally by: Avalira It's actually a nice idea, although I wouldn't go for scramblers/disrupters totaly disabling a MWD, it could slow them down.
In any case, you should post this in the "Ideas and Suggestions" forums, not here.
I believe the module you are thinking of is already in game, though it works against ALL ships not just MWD/AB ships.
Stasis Webifier I
lol yeah, duh on me . Come to think of it, a module with two purposes can be overpowered.
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Steel Tigeress
Gallente Steel-Wolfs
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Posted - 2007.09.02 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Paithos Yes, the same way as sensor damps are ineffective as you can just get close, or guns are ineffective as you can just log off 
Ok how would you slow down a 9km/s ares in a BS then?
Currently the only way to slow down one of the speed deamons, is to have one yourself and hope he doesnt have a web fitted to. If he does you both just web each other... Even then its realy not the web making it possible, its the fact that you are in a fast ship too.
Personally I just think they need more sizes and varieties of Webs. 30km BS sized webs, 20km Cruiser....and make fittings appropriate for each ship class.
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voogru
Gallente Massive Damage
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Posted - 2007.09.02 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Steel Tigeress Ok how would you slow down a 9km/s ares in a BS then?
Ok how would a 9km/s ares kill your BS then?
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Illminatis
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Steel Tigeress
Originally by: Dr Paithos Yes, the same way as sensor damps are ineffective as you can just get close, or guns are ineffective as you can just log off 
Ok how would you slow down a 9km/s ares in a BS then?
Currently the only way to slow down one of the speed deamons, is to have one yourself and hope he doesnt have a web fitted to. If he does you both just web each other... Even then its realy not the web making it possible, its the fact that you are in a fast ship too.
Personally I just think they need more sizes and varieties of Webs. 30km BS sized webs, 20km Cruiser....and make fittings appropriate for each ship class.
If battleships were better than all other ships for all purposes, people would only fly battleships. Interceptors have a role. Support Ships have a role. Battleships have a role. But, to answer your question:you could stop it with a Heavy Energy Neutralizer.
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Grapez If the MWD is a little warp drive, how come warp scrammers and jammers don't disable it? Why aren't they just called "really farking big afterburners (RFBAB)?"
Well, in the contracts you have to select the afterburner group to find the contracts for microwarpdrives. Maybe this is CCPs way of telling us that they are just afterburners after all.
Not that it helps to know this, cause all the good cruiser sized MWDs are gone. Most likely from people like me trying to nano up the Khanid HAC.
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Brucette
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Posted - 2007.09.03 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: voogru
Originally by: Steel Tigeress Ok how would you slow down a 9km/s ares in a BS then?
Ok how would a 9km/s ares kill your BS then?
It doesn't. It just holds you relatively stationary until the 50 ships on the other side of the gate can get in-system.
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.09.03 00:51:00 -
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Warp scramblers jam the ship's long rangenavigational computers. Since there's no long range warping used in a MWD why would it warp scramble your ship?
That and this is a game, why would it need to make sense if it makes fun? ___________
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KioTsukette
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Posted - 2007.09.03 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Brucette
Originally by: voogru
Originally by: Steel Tigeress Ok how would you slow down a 9km/s ares in a BS then?
Ok how would a 9km/s ares kill your BS then?
It doesn't. It just holds you relatively stationary until the 50 ships on the other side of the gate can get in-system.
Not if you pop your hypothetical cyno and your titan'0'doom jump portals in a supercap fleet. That will stop the ares.... Can capital weapons hit a frigate? Yarrr
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MITSUK0
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Posted - 2007.09.03 01:06:00 -
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/me gets crushed beneath strawman arguements
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.03 01:06:00 -
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what kind of BS doesnt have drones for inty killing?
or webber drones for inty webbing?
or smartbombs?
or backup?
or pie?
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Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2007.09.03 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: Steel Tigeress
Originally by: Dr Paithos Yes, the same way as sensor damps are ineffective as you can just get close, or guns are ineffective as you can just log off 
Ok how would you slow down a 9km/s ares in a BS then?
Currently the only way to slow down one of the speed deamons, is to have one yourself and hope he doesnt have a web fitted to. If he does you both just web each other... Even then its realy not the web making it possible, its the fact that you are in a fast ship too.
Personally I just think they need more sizes and varieties of Webs. 30km BS sized webs, 20km Cruiser....and make fittings appropriate for each ship class.
you dont use a bs to catch a fast ship though do you ? just get another fast ship with a web or two, preferably try to gp fast so he is going to go slower than you einstein.
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Steel Tigeress
Gallente Steel-Wolfs
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Posted - 2007.09.03 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Hawkings
you dont use a bs to catch a fast ship though do you ? just get another fast ship with a web or two, preferably try to gp fast so he is going to go slower than you einstein.
Thats exactly the point... Its not the webs that are effective, its being in a fast ship. Thats the only counter, and thats the problem.
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Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.09.03 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Steel Tigeress
Originally by: Steve Hawkings
you dont use a bs to catch a fast ship though do you ? just get another fast ship with a web or two, preferably try to gp fast so he is going to go slower than you einstein.
Thats exactly the point... Its not the webs that are effective, its being in a fast ship. Thats the only counter, and thats the problem.
How does I shot 60km web?
Oh yeah a huggin
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Malcanis
High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.03 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Steel Tigeress
Originally by: Dr Paithos Yes, the same way as sensor damps are ineffective as you can just get close, or guns are ineffective as you can just log off 
Ok how would you slow down a 9km/s ares in a BS then?
Currently the only way to slow down one of the speed deamons, is to have one yourself and hope he doesnt have a web fitted to. If he does you both just web each other... Even then its realy not the web making it possible, its the fact that you are in a fast ship too.
Personally I just think they need more sizes and varieties of Webs. 30km BS sized webs, 20km Cruiser....and make fittings appropriate for each ship class.
I guess I'd get out of the BS and use a more suitable ship.
How would you use an Ares to, say, take down a cyno jammer?
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2007.09.03 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Captian Internet Because you touch yourself at night
that would be funny if i haddnt seen it on family guy.
and to the op, warp jammers jam warp, not micro warp. for that youd need a microwarp drive scrambler 
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Grapez
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.03 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme what kind of BS doesnt have drones for inty killing?
What's the max speed of a light T2 drone? What's an easy speed for an inty?
Originally by: Tortun Nahme or webber drones for inty webbing?
See above.
Originally by: Tortun Nahme or smartbombs?
What kind of tackler/scout orbits within smartbomb range? Or webber range?
Originally by: Tortun Nahme or backup?
Touche. I guess I'll just have to always be in a blob. Good to know which direction Eve is moving in.
Originally by: Tortun Nahme or pie?
Delcious, delicious pie  @º¬íí-T«+ºH for all your political humor needs |

v1nk3r
Firing Squad Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.03 18:38:00 -
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My mommy made my daddy fire his secretary.
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Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.09.03 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Grapez
Originally by: Tortun Nahme what kind of BS doesnt have drones for inty killing?
What's the max speed of a light T2 drone? What's an easy speed for an inty?
10km/s is not easy
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Alpine 69
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.09.03 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Paithos
Originally by: Grapez
Originally by: Captian Internet Because you touch yourself at night
Damnit, going blind with hairy palms AND MWD's remain overpowered, fit-or-die modules?! That's too much.
You can avoid the going blind by aiming further down
  
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Scilent Enigma
Minmatar Gerek Business Consortium
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Posted - 2007.09.03 19:44:00 -
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Edited by: Scilent Enigma on 03/09/2007 19:45:06
Originally by: Item Database Disrupts the target ship's navigation computer which prevents it from warping.
http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/EN/shipequipment/electronicwarfare/warpjammers/3244.asp
They don't act on the warpdrive itself but on the navigation system. Don't need the navigation system with the MWD.
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