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maarud
Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.09.04 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: maarud on 04/09/2007 17:44:34 Sacralidge PVE Setup
I rekon this would do alright. Its tank is slighly less than a ravens, by about 90 dps, but it has the advantage of being able to perma run it, even with the AB on. It does less DPS than a T2 Cruise Raven, but about 2.5 times more than a drake, so it won't have a problem killing any spawns.
Its deciently fast, just under 600m/s, so it can easily get in range to use HAMS and the speed will also be a nice reduction to dmg from missiles and cause turret ships to not be able to track as well, which leads me to belive that the sacralidge would take less dmg than a raven or drake.
I think this new little ship would be a awesome lvl 4 mission runner...
Thoughts?
Maarud.
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Julius Romanus
Free Space Development Cartel
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Posted - 2007.09.04 17:40:00 -
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Reserved.
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goodby4u
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.04 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: maarud Edited by: maarud on 04/09/2007 17:39:43 Sacralidge PVE Setup
I rekon this would do alright. Its tank is slighly less than a ravens, by about 90 dps, but it has the advantage of being able to perma run it, even with the AB on. It does less DPS than a raven, but about 2.5 times more than a drake, so it won't have a problem killing any spawns.
Its deciently fast, just under 600m/s, so it can easily get in range to use HAMS and the speed will also be a nice reduction to dmg from missiles and cause turret ships to not be able to track as well, which leads me to belive that the sacralidge would take less dmg than a raven or drake.
I think this new little ship would be a awesome lvl 4 mission runner...
Thoughts?
I would on some missions drop a bcu for an eanm.
Also make sure you keep alot of range between them and you in some missions,if not you go pop
Oh and lastly,it does alot less dps then a raven...My alt's does 600 with torps. __________________________________________ Yes it is great being amarr. I am minmatar,fly amarr,use gellente drones and am in caldari space. |
Mastin Dragonfly
Absolutely No Return The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.09.04 18:13:00 -
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The ship is called Sacrilege
Originally by: goodby4u Also make sure you keep alot of range between them and you in some missions,if not you go pop
Unless you're using long range T2 HAMs, alot of range isn't gonna happen...
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goodby4u
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.04 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly The ship is called Sacrilege
Originally by: goodby4u Also make sure you keep alot of range between them and you in some missions,if not you go pop
Unless you're using long range T2 HAMs, alot of range isn't gonna happen...
Didnt see that,thought they were heavies.
For missions with hams?NO,get a raven man. __________________________________________ Yes it is great being amarr. I am minmatar,fly amarr,use gellente drones and am in caldari space. |
Aramendel
Amarr Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.09.05 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: maarud I rekon this would do alright. Its tank is slighly less than a ravens, by about 90 dps, but it has the advantage of being able to perma run it, even with the AB on. It does less DPS than a T2 Cruise Raven, but about 2.5 times more than a drake, so it won't have a problem killing any spawns.
Its deciently fast, just under 600m/s, so it can easily get in range to use HAMS and the speed will also be a nice reduction to dmg from missiles and cause turret ships to not be able to track as well, which leads me to belive that the sacralidge would take less dmg than a raven or drake.
I think this new little ship would be a awesome lvl 4 mission runner...
Thoughts?
Fristly, no, it won't do 2.5 times the damage as the drake. Not even close.
A drake will also use 2 BCUs (and will have still a better tank). With HAC 5 vs BC5 you will do 20% more kinetic dps than the drake - at 0-20k. The whole time you spend getting in range the drake will have already spend launching missiles, so its likely that the drake will still outdamage you efficiently.
Vs targets where kinetic missiles are bad (= snasha/blood/drones) its 49% more dps before the range disadvantage. Vs angels minnies where kin work, but do slightly less dps than exp its prolly around 30% more dps.
This is ignoring that the drake has 30-40 more drone dps and will do more dps vs small targets, btw.
Also, in many missions getting close is no good idea since it will result in additional aggro. With javs the sac will only do 90% of the drakes dps vs kinetic targets and 10% more vs non-kinetic ones.
So, to recap, sac vs drake:
- at long range it has no real dps advantage - at short range it has, although it must first get there which isn't always possible. During which time the drake can do dps, negating most of the sacs advantage. - the sac will have serious problems tanking a group at short range, the drake can kill most of them from long range and reduce them to a manageable size before they get close
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Luke Pubcrawler
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Posted - 2007.09.05 13:31:00 -
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I am flying lvl 3 cosmos with one at the minute and it is pretty good for that - even a badly misjudged afull aggro in a complex did not trouble the tank too much.
However DPS is only just good enough for efficient running and range can be an issue as I dont use t2 ammo for missions.
So the Sac will be fine for any level 3 but my phoon will still be used for level 4s.
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Skylar Keenan
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2007.09.05 18:43:00 -
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I really like this setup:
High: 5x Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II 1x Medium Pulse Laser II (that's 30 more DpS right there )
Med: 1x 10mn Afterburner II 1x Large Capacitor Battery II 1x Cap Recharger II 1x Target Painter II
Low: 2x Medium Armor Repairer II 1x Armor Hardener of choice 1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1x Ballistic Control System II
Rigs: 2x Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Drones: 3x light drones of choice
It all fits with a -3% CPU use for launchers hardwire. The tank is quite a bit more sturdy than the one proposed in the OP, and I like the mid slots better... And the pulse laser - well, I hardly ever loot so figured I could push a bit more DpS against the big guys, and good for taking pesky close-range orbiters too while I shoot something else. With drones, faction ammo and some damage hardwires it can push just over 500 DpS. Not half bad IMO. ----------------------------------------------- New sig coming SoonÖ |
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