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Nevedi	Posted - 2007.09.05 17:40:00 - [1] Can someone tell me the reason why the Minmatar Command Ships has total one more fitting slot then the other races in the same ship class? tnx Nevedi
iiOs The Cry of Mankind	Posted - 2007.09.05 17:42:00 - [2] Originally by: Nevedi Can someone tell me the reason why the Minmatar Command Ships has total one more fitting slot then the other races in the same ship class? tnx Nevedi can you tell me why minmatar ship use projectile turrets and not hybrid? ---------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- BB
Mudkest MetaForge Ekliptika	Posted - 2007.09.05 18:11:00 - [3] Originally by: Nevedi Can someone tell me the reason why the Minmatar Command Ships has total one more fitting slot then the other races in the same ship class? tnx Nevedi cause the cyclone(wich it is based on) also has 1 more slot then the other tier1 bc 8) ----- GIEV custom ship paint jobs! I want my hello-kitty-kessie!
magnus amadeus Amarr Hammer Of Light	Posted - 2007.09.05 18:14:00 - [4] Its a valid question though... why is it they have an extra slot? I am not crying for a nerf, I just wanna know what the reasoning is behind it. _________________________________________________ Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you down with experience.
iiOs The Cry of Mankind	Posted - 2007.09.05 18:17:00 - [5] Originally by: magnus amadeus Its a valid question though... why is it they have an extra slot? I am not crying for a nerf, I just wanna know what the reasoning is behind it. xd, what is the reason behind how many slots other ships have? same reason applies here ---------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- BB
magnus amadeus Amarr Hammer Of Light	Posted - 2007.09.05 18:25:00 - [6] Originally by: iiOs Originally by: magnus amadeus Its a valid question though... why is it they have an extra slot? I am not crying for a nerf, I just wanna know what the reasoning is behind it. xd, what is the reason behind how many slots other ships have? same reason applies here Thats a non-answer. All ships in a similar class have the same amount of slots, they are just distributed differently to fit that races/ships battle doctrine. I am sure there is a good reason why the minnie BC/Command ships get an extra slot compared to the rest of the BC/command ships in the game, I am just wondering what it is. iiOs listen: I understand that you have quite the agenda here on the ships and modules forum. Your posting is translucent and not constructive in the least. Please stop. _________________________________________________ Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you down with experience.
iiOs The Cry of Mankind	Posted - 2007.09.05 18:26:00 - [7] Originally by: magnus amadeus Originally by: iiOs Originally by: magnus amadeus Its a valid question though... why is it they have an extra slot? I am not crying for a nerf, I just wanna know what the reasoning is behind it. xd, what is the reason behind how many slots other ships have? same reason applies here Thats a non-answer. All ships in a similar class have the same amount of slots, they are just distributed differently to fit that races/ships battle doctrine. I am sure there is a good reason why the minnie BC/Command ships get an extra slot compared to the rest of the BC/command ships in the game, I am just wondering what it is. iiOs listen: I understand that you have quite the agenda here on the ships and modules forum. Your posting is translucent and not constructive in the least. Please stop. ---------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- BB
Ath Amon	Posted - 2007.09.05 18:41:00 - [8] for balance reasons... basically proj do poor dps compared to other weapons so that the dmg minnie ships need 2 dps bonuses to catch other weapon dps with just 1 bonus problem is that cs "dps" boats have all 2 dps bonuses so to keep the dmg on par minnie need 1 more high also as said they come from the crappy cyclone that when had same slots as oter bcs was an extremely poor ship and needed 1 more mid to compete (even if imo is still crap :P) if you look there are more minnie ships who have 1 more slots that similar boat in their class and most of the time the change was made because the ship was total crap and needed to be boosted. in the end the real balance is made not just looking at slots number/layout, but comparing the damage curve, tank, ew/support capability, and some other minor things... Minnie CS are good but not overpowered in any way (just compare with gall ones) so i don't see any problem if they need that slot to achieve that Originally by: Diana Merris Unfortunately, rather than address the slot layout/tanking issues for Minmatar the Devs have simple declared that it makes us "versitile".
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.05 18:43:00 - [9] Lack of DPS? Artillery has very low DPS. Lack of grid? Most matari ships are low on grid/cpu to fit their equipment compared to other races. More skills required? Matari ships are a hodge-podge of skill requirements. Best cruiser? Armor tank. T1 BC and Command ships? Shield tanks. Prior to Revelations you armor tanked cruisers and below, shield tanked BC, then armor tanked BSs. You have to do it all to fly Matari effectively. Lack of Resists? Matari base resists for their T1 ships are lower than everyone else. Hence one additional slot to compensate for the above. Originally by: CCP Chronotis Since this thread continues to fight against the people who derail it into the macro miners witchhunt. I will move it to features and ideas discussion where ...
Kamikaaazi Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.05 18:48:00 - [10] why scorp has 1 slot less? yarr
Andre Ricard Gallente Templars of Space Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.09.05 19:24:00 - [11] Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby Lack of Resists? Matari base resists for their T1 ships are lower than everyone else. . Errrm what? matari have the highest resist. going from 60% - > 70% em on armor is about 2.5x the bonus amarr get going from 10% - 20% exp on armor. 1010011010
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.05 19:56:00 - [12] Originally by: Andre Ricard Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby Lack of Resists? Matari base resists for their T1 ships are lower than everyone else. . Errrm what? matari have the highest resist. going from 60% - > 70% em on armor is about 2.5x the bonus amarr get going from 10% - 20% exp on armor. And then compare the "holes" in the low end resists for their armor against the other races not just Amarr. Matari low armor is 10, compared to 20 for the others. Their low "3" is 10, 25, 35%. Amarr is 20, 25, 25%, Average resist is the same, bigger hole in the weak resists. That larger hole is easier to exploit for the other 2 races than the high is an dis-advantage for the one. Even with the Matari shield tankers this allows them to drop faster than their shield-tanking counterparts. Minimal difference, true. But it IS there especially with many T2 ammos doing explosive damage. The fact that their HIGH resist directly effects Amarr is hardly a Matari issue True that Amarr gets shafted, hitting a high, but that is hardly a Matari issue Originally by: CCP Chronotis Since this thread continues to fight against the people who derail it into the macro miners witchhunt. I will move it to features and ideas discussion where ...
bldyannoyed Un4seen Development	Posted - 2007.09.05 20:20:00 - [13] 2 years ago when BC first came into the game the Cyclone was an 8/4/4 layout. And it was utterly, utterly awfull. So bad in fact that the only way to balance it up was give it an additional slot. Now you know. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Mrs Amadeus	Posted - 2007.09.05 20:27:00 - [14] Thanks for the responses. Oh the resist thing is kinda BS. Like someone else said, matari get a 25% bonus to their EM resist, amarr get an 11%, gallente get a 13%, and caldari get a useless 15% (they are shield tankers remember.) Caldari/gallente/matari all have the same explosive hole.
William Alex Viscosity	Posted - 2007.09.05 20:41:00 - [15] Originally by: bldyannoyed 2 years ago when BC first came into the game the Cyclone was an 8/4/4 layout. And it was utterly, utterly awfull. So bad in fact that the only way to balance it up was give it an additional slot. Now you know. HAHAHA Please give us a 1 depth skill queue CCP.
Spaced Skunk D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.05 21:01:00 - [16] Originally by: William Alex Originally by: bldyannoyed 2 years ago when BC first came into the game the Cyclone was an 8/4/4 layout. And it was utterly, utterly awfull. So bad in fact that the only way to balance it up was give it an additional slot. Now you know. HAHAHA Yes I was wondering when someone was going to say it. Cyclone was boosted with +1 med ages ago.
Ruciza	Posted - 2007.09.05 21:22:00 - [17] For the Cyclone the EM bonus is useless too by that logic.
Miriyana Gallente Legions of Derek	Posted - 2007.09.05 21:39:00 - [18] Edited by: Miriyana on 05/09/2007 21:39:21 Originally by: bldyannoyed 2 years ago when BC first came into the game the Cyclone was an 8/4/4 layout. And it was utterly, utterly awfull. So bad in fact that the only way to balance it up was give it an additional slot. Now you know. more like around 3 years ago around the change from castor -> exodus, right? in a few months, 2 years ago was actually when RMR was launched. Yes, time flies when you're having fun. - - - - - - Change just leads to more problems Originally by: CCP Wrangler Oh please no, I've had enough with real world taxes, and dealing with the tax agency. No more taxes!!

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