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hrtert
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Posted - 2007.09.07 19:43:00 -
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After the last patch I found 2 systems in which I spend probobly 9+ hours in each trying to find an unknown and was unable to find any. I scanned every planet at leats 30 times, switching probe placement to cover every little piece several times. In the end I found nothing. Anyone got the same problem?
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Draem
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Posted - 2007.09.07 20:12:00 -
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Edited by: Draem on 07/09/2007 20:14:05 Do a quick On-Board Scanner (5AU range, 30 second scan, almost always finds anomalies if they exist) sweep for Cosmic Anomalies before searching for Unknown type Cosmic Signatures.
CCP messed up and now the poor quality Cosmic Anomaly complexes appear as Unknown when using multispectral probes.
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HelloDevette
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Posted - 2007.09.08 05:58:00 -
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Originally by: Draem Edited by: Draem on 07/09/2007 20:14:05 CCP messed up and now the poor quality Cosmic Anomaly complexes appear as Unknown when using multispectral probes.
Can anyone else confirm this? That is not cool at all. CCP needs to fix it.
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Vermin Fiend
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Posted - 2007.09.08 11:43:00 -
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Confirmed, scan probing - at least on that aspect - is broken.
-Vermy
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HelloDevette
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Posted - 2007.09.08 21:42:00 -
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How disappointing.... the last time I did one of those unknowns was a while back- before the new sites that you find with onboard scanner.
Now I tried to find an unknown the other day but I just spent ages without luck because was the multifrequency probe really saw was those cosmic anomalies.
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Kakita Jalaan
Viriette Commerce and Holding
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Posted - 2007.09.08 22:36:00 -
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And I keep wondering why I don't find anything after an hour's worth of probing.... fix! ______________ Join the Family |

HelloDevette
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Posted - 2007.09.08 22:45:00 -
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How do we bring this to CCP's attention?
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Great Artista
Caldari Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.08 23:04:00 -
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I spent 4h trying to find a radar sig, not a single hit on that (however, my RADAR quests found magsite and gravsite from the system in the meanwhile ). _______
◕◡◕ Space perverts and forum warriors united. [PERVS]
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Boknamar
Gallente The Knights Trevor
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Posted - 2007.09.08 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: HelloDevette How do we bring this to CCP's attention?
They have already acknowledged the problem on the forums.
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HelloDevette
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Posted - 2007.09.12 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Boknamar
Originally by: HelloDevette How do we bring this to CCP's attention?
They have already acknowledged the problem on the forums.
Hope they fix it soon, it doesn't seem to be in the latest patchnotes.
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Velodra Gison
Caldari East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.09.12 13:23:00 -
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according to the latest dev blog it is getting fixed in Rev 3. Recruitment Thread EKT Website |

Iteken Hotori
Minmatar Maelstrom Crew
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Posted - 2007.09.12 13:47:00 -
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i found a few radar sites last night, but no unknowns. I've a great understanding of how the probe / scanner system works, excellent skills, implants etc, and they just Are Not Coming Up (so far).
Anyone Else?
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Zibun Ionic
Minmatar Wings of Redemption Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.12 14:00:00 -
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All I get are unknowns 
Wanna trade?
Furthermore, the unknowns still seems to be cosmic anomalies - at least in cases I've found so far.
-Z
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Miss Mickey
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Posted - 2007.09.12 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur's Dev Blog We're following exploration up with more encounters and also changing multifrequency probes. The Multifrequency probes take the selected scan group into account when deciding what results to return. With the Encounters being moved to Cosmic Anomalies and being given a Deadspace Anomaly beacon, you should be able to scan for either or both groups.
By the sounds of the dev blog, CCP are treating the current way it works as a "feature" rather than the bug it clearly is.
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Tonto Auri
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Posted - 2007.09.12 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Iteken Hotori i found a few radar sites last night, but no unknowns. I've a great understanding of how the probe / scanner system works, excellent skills, implants etc, and they just Are Not Coming Up (so far).
Anyone Else?
Exactly the same but for Gravi sig. Done 2 hours of probing (20+ scans, 2 mil spent), but literally nothing was found. -- Thanks CCP for cu<end of sig> |
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CCP Greyscale

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Posted - 2007.09.12 16:15:00 -
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The 'fix' turns out to be more complex than it first seemed, and given the extent of changes needed to accommodate it we've taken the opportunity to do a more general overhaul of the way multispecs work under the hood, so they're properly forward-compatible with any future changes of a similar type. As the code changes required a change to the original design doc and add previously unavailable functionality, they're treated as a feature rather than a fix. I hope this clarifies things a little 
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Rikeka
Amarr Eye of God O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.09.12 17:42:00 -
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So... they will not be fixed? Sorry, just woke up.
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CCP Greyscale

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Posted - 2007.09.12 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Rikeka So... they will not be fixed? Sorry, just woke up.
We're fixing it in such a way that it won't happen again in future if we make similar changes
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Lorune
Gallente Thundercats
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Posted - 2007.09.12 18:16:00 -
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In other words were screwed till the next major patch.
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Tonto Auri
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Posted - 2007.09.12 19:11:00 -
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In other words, we're again stuck to mining... No point to trash money to probes till next major patch... -- Thanks CCP for cu<end of sig> |

William Alex
Viscosity
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Posted - 2007.09.12 20:28:00 -
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Just don't search for unknowns if you can't clear out the anomolies.
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Tonto Auri
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Posted - 2007.09.12 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: William Alex Just don't search for unknowns if you can't clear out the anomolies.
Scanning for RADAR sig. 2 hours. 20+ runs. No success. Scanning for Gravi sig, 1 hour, 11 runs, no success. 3 mil on the wind. 4 hours of scanning. No payback. Literally no cent of ISK was paid back to my wallet. Only yells and whines from corpmates. -- Thanks CCP for cu<end of sig> |

Iuvart
Gallente Order of Celestial Knights
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Posted - 2007.09.12 22:13:00 -
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Even at very high prices of 15k per probe 3M gives you 200 probes. How do you burn through 200 probes in 4 hours? Especially with the weakest and most time consuming probes - Quests - living over an hour? If 4 hours of probing for 2-3 sites really costs you 3M you should consider getting your probes at a cheaper supplier or only scan systems with less than 25 planets. 
The op has a point though. I've spent countless hours scanning for sites. When I do find them they usually contain two roids of omber or 3 hacking cans with T1 salvage. Yay. 
And I don't scan for unknowns anymore unless I have definitely cleared the system of anomalies.
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Reapeat Offender
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.12 22:23:00 -
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What I do when I get an unknown is blanket the planets with quest probes and make my first scan look for both anomoly's and cosmic sigs. You will always locate all the anomoly's on the first scan if any are present.
If anomoly's are present and I didn't get any other deep space sig hits, I just move on. At that point, the only way to know for certain whether a true low signal strenth plex is buried under the high signal strength anomoly's is to clear out the anomoly's first and then drop another multi spec and see if you still show an unknown. I don't really have the time or desire to do that. With the increased spawn rates of the anomoly plexes, it is quite the norm to find them in most systems now.
If your first scan returns no anomoly's, then you know that you have a real plex there and can probe away further. Those low signal strenth plexes like a 10/10 can take hours to pinpoint. Something I don't mind doing as long as I can be reaonably sure that its actually there.
For those searching for hours and finding nothing, you very likely only have anomoly's in the system and are only searching for cosmic signatures. This will not return any results for you.
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.09.12 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Reapeat Offender At that point, the only way to know for certain whether a true low signal strenth plex is buried under the high signal strength anomoly's is to clear out the anomoly's first and then drop another multi spec and see if you still show an unknown. I don't really have the time or desire to do that.
In many systems, there exist bugged anomalies that won't despawn. Those systems are pretty much hosed until somebody with DB access manually despawns them, or Rev 3 is released (assuming it succeeds without bugs).
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Tonto Auri
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Posted - 2007.09.13 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: Iuvart Even at very high prices of 15k per probe 3M gives you 200 probes. How do you burn through 200 probes in 4 hours? Especially with the weakest and most time consuming probes - Quests - living over an hour?
But can't survive server restarts and player disconnects (thanks LLNW for "stable" internet). -- Thanks CCP for cu<end of sig> |

Miss Mickey
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Posted - 2007.09.13 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Guillame Herschel
Originally by: Reapeat Offender At that point, the only way to know for certain whether a true low signal strenth plex is buried under the high signal strength anomoly's is to clear out the anomoly's first and then drop another multi spec and see if you still show an unknown. I don't really have the time or desire to do that.
In many systems, there exist bugged anomalies that won't despawn. Those systems are pretty much hosed until somebody with DB access manually despawns them, or Rev 3 is released (assuming it succeeds without bugs).
Indeed, and since we were told to report these as bug reports, they have usually despawned themselves by the time anyone gets round to sorting the bug report, which is usually a few days. By which time more anomalies have spawned of which some may again bug out and not despawn correctly.
So, in short, we're screwed til november :(
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