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Rogen DarHeel
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Posted - 2007.09.07 20:58:00 -
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How bout using those .jpg anograms to stop macro miners, you know, those .jpegs that have letters in them that cant be copied and pasted?
You can have a window pop up randomly, about as often as 3 or 4 laser cycles. It can say "As stated by section blah blah blah of concord article blah blah you are required to periodically register with concord to update your permit to mine at your current position. To update your permit please confirm your registration by entering in the secret code that we have sent in our transmission." .... If no one enters the code your miners are deactivated on the next cycle and cant be reactivated unless you go to a station where you can manually run the permit updater and enter in the anogram. Once this is done you can resume mining.
The last part is needed for if you happen to miss the anogram when it pops up while you are mining and need to be able to reactivate your miners.
The random pops ups should only happen in 0.5 or higher.
Thoughts?
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Wardo21
The Arcanum
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Posted - 2007.09.07 21:20:00 -
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That would drive the macro'ers to design a pattern recognition portion of their macro engines to deal with the jpgs. Probably simplest to catalog all the possibilities and react with the proper string per image. So you would have to change the images and make sure the "key" string matches on the server side.
I for one would be really irritated by this sort of thing, even with the best of intentions.
I would be really irritated if the string I typed in didn't match the "key" because it had to be changed so often that something got messed up. (See the recent MS authentication problems as an example for the price of the system failing.)
Wardo21
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Drizit
Amarr
Lonely out here
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.07 22:21:00 -
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It's been sugested before and the same response to it still applies.
Why penalise the legitimate miners? It would drive real players nuts and probably provoke the loss of a few legit accounts.
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Chris Stormrider
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Posted - 2007.09.07 22:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Drizit
It's been sugested before and the same response to it still applies.
Why penalise the legitimate miners? It would drive real players nuts and probably provoke the loss of a few legit accounts.
exactly
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Plekto
Priory Of The Lemon
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.08 00:24:00 -
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You have to look at the whole picture.
WHY are they mining? Right - to make ISK to sell.
How do they sell ISK(aside from eBay and the like?)
Right - they buy time cards, which they sell for cash and use to pay for their accounts.
Who mines? Mostly large groups of people in places like China as a *job*. Not as a lone individual.
The problem isn't the mining, it's the time cards. Get rid of them and the entire external economy in EVE evaporates because it's no longer profitable compared to other games.
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Ilvan
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Posted - 2007.09.08 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Rogen DarHeel
How bout using those .jpg anograms to stop macro miners, you know, those .jpegs that have letters in them that cant be copied and pasted?
You can have a window pop up randomly, about as often as 3 or 4 laser cycles. It can say "As stated by section blah blah blah of concord article blah blah you are required to periodically register with concord to update your permit to mine at your current position. To update your permit please confirm your registration by entering in the secret code that we have sent in our transmission." .... If no one enters the code your miners are deactivated on the next cycle and cant be reactivated unless you go to a station where you can manually run the permit updater and enter in the anogram. Once this is done you can resume mining.
The last part is needed for if you happen to miss the anogram when it pops up while you are mining and need to be able to reactivate your miners.
The random pops ups should only happen in 0.5 or higher.
Thoughts?
Yeah, and with all the macro missioners around, let's also require a captcha every time you fire your guns, jump, dock or gate! Only fair, right?
Next time, think before posting.
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Jurgen Cartis
Caldari
Interstellar Corporation of Exploration
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Posted - 2007.09.08 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: Drizit
It's been sugested before and the same response to it still applies.
Why penalise the legitimate miners? It would drive real players nuts and probably provoke the loss of a few legit accounts.
I'd say it again, but Drizit already did. . .
Second, most of those 'macro' miners are sweatshop workers, who would have little trouble going between half a dozen clients doing letter recognition. . .
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Gridcrash
Redline Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.08 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: Jurgen Cartis
Second, most of those 'macro' miners are sweatshop workers, who would have little trouble going between half a dozen clients doing letter recognition. . .
Where did I just read that it was discovered that many of these folks aren't actually in sweat shops, but are actually college students trying to support themselves? Though I guess it is easier to hate them if you call them sweatshops...
Doesn't matter. They aren't going away, no matter what, because there is always going to be someone willing to pay cash for isk. Doesn't matter what scheme we come up with, or how much more difficult we make mining on legitimate miners, the macros will ALWAYS work around it.
Don't blame the macro, blame the buyer.
-Grid
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Jurgen Cartis
Caldari
Interstellar Corporation of Exploration
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Posted - 2007.09.08 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: Gridcrash
Originally by: Jurgen Cartis
Second, most of those 'macro' miners are sweatshop workers, who would have little trouble going between half a dozen clients doing letter recognition. . .
Where did I just read that it was discovered that many of these folks aren't actually in sweat shops, but are actually college students trying to support themselves? Though I guess it is easier to hate them if you call them sweatshops...
Doesn't matter. They aren't going away, no matter what, because there is always going to be someone willing to pay cash for isk. Doesn't matter what scheme we come up with, or how much more difficult we make mining on legitimate miners, the macros will ALWAYS work around it.
Don't blame the macro, blame the buyer.
-Grid
College students eh. . . 
Either way, it makes little difference, the ships are manned, they won't have too much trouble with this idea, you would only succeed in ****ing off legit miners.
Which, ironically enough, could snowball. Drive off legit miners --> fewer minerals, prices go up, farmers get more ISK. . .
Gridcrash is right, only way to kill ISK farming is to STOP BUYING ISK. Even though that means fewer fools in Officer fitted Nightmares for pirates to pop.
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Kempeth
Gallente
Thunderbolts
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Posted - 2007.09.10 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Gridcrash
Where did I just read that it was discovered that many of these folks aren't actually in sweat shops, but are actually college students trying to support themselves? Though I guess it is easier to hate them if you call them sweatshops...
Well, I'm pretty indiscriminate. I can hate both of them equally well... 
But I agree that the whole macro-mining is near impossible to solve except by eliminating the ISK buyers. ISK buyers should be whipped naked across the snowcovered iceland... 
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