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Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
248
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Posted - 2012.01.18 13:35:00 -
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Yes, you read right, the council of serious internet spaceships has outlived it's usefulness. The only things left on their agendas are those that benefit the CSM leaders super alliances most.
They cannot claim to represent the majority of the playerbase and on their agenda is only about their personal benefit and for this crap they let themselves be carried to Iceland a few times a year, adding even more cost to CCP.
It is time to end the 'experiment' and disband the CSM. |
Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
238
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Posted - 2012.01.18 14:51:00 -
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Deviana Sevidon wrote:Yes, you read right, the council of serious internet spaceships has outlived it's usefulness. The only things left on their agendas are those that benefit the CSM leaders super alliances most.
They cannot claim to represent the majority of the playerbase and on their agenda is only about their personal benefit and for this crap they let themselves be carried to Iceland a few times a year, adding even more cost to CCP.
It is time to end the 'experiment' and disband the CSM.
Only if you are permanently banned.
Otherwise not supporting. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
222
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Posted - 2012.01.18 15:16:00 -
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ban npc forum alts from csm forums |
Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
46
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Posted - 2012.01.18 15:43:00 -
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Not this again.
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Goose99
708
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Posted - 2012.01.18 15:55:00 -
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Supported +1 |
Disdaine
209
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Posted - 2012.01.18 16:03:00 -
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Plus one. |
Prince Kobol
162
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Posted - 2012.01.18 16:26:00 -
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No as the CSM create oceans of Tears and that alone is enough for me |
Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
102
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Posted - 2012.01.18 18:46:00 -
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Obviously the OP doesn't read the CSM minutes of the meetings in Iceland.
If you did, you would realise very quickly that the CSM is not doing out of their self interest but for the interests of ALL EVE players.
As I said before on one of these threads, CCP would never allow the CSM dictate how they ran their business. It just would never happen and you are living on another planet if you think otherwise.
Not supported. |
King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
148
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Posted - 2012.01.18 18:48:00 -
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I suggest reading the CSM minutes, all there looks pretty reasonable to me. In fact it's utterly uncontroversial.
Edit: Exception is the idea of some sort of WH stabilizer. But it was merely something discussed, I didn't get the impression it had wide support. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1110
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Posted - 2012.01.18 21:20:00 -
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The CSM doesn't ask me what I want or what is in my interests. They run out to CCP land with a short list of items that are populist in nature, or what serves their own alliance / power block agendas by nature of having the sheer support of thousands of sheep that fear for their membership and pretend that their interests are my interests.
And when I bother telling the CSM what my interests are, they tell me to get lost, that game designers do wonders or wont care about my interests or suggestions. Most importantly, all they ever do is waste my time with bullpoop politics.
CCP is starting to take an active interest in the player base's wants and desires, as evident by the WiS team actively engaging with players regarding the future of WiS. They talk to us, which, as I understand it, is what the CSM was designed to facilitate in the first place. Communication between players and the powers that be. Now that the powers that be have woken up and started paying attention, this CSM thing can go die in a fire.
+1 |
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Wolodymyr
Mando'a Navy Controlled Chaos
23
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Posted - 2012.01.18 21:24:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:The CSM doesn't ask me what I want or what is in my interests. They run out to CCP land with a short list of items that are populist in nature That basically describes how a democracy works.
"Why is it every election nobody asks me personally what I want. But instead delivers stuff the vast majority of people want?"
Also have you read the latest CSM minutes, it's pretty awesome stuff. |
Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
244
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Posted - 2012.01.18 21:47:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:The CSM doesn't ask me what I want or what is in my interests.
Nobody asked me what you wantted either...and I sure as hell don't want it. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1578
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Posted - 2012.01.18 22:04:00 -
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the mittani suicide ganked my hulk i am very angry disband the csm please, ccp |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1578
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Posted - 2012.01.18 22:05:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:The CSM doesn't ask me what I want or what is in my interests. They run out to CCP land with a short list of items that are populist in nature, or what serves their own alliance / power block agendas by nature of having the sheer support of thousands of sheep that fear for their membership and pretend that their interests are my interests.
And when I bother telling the CSM what my interests are, they tell me to get lost, that game designers do wonders or wont care about my interests or suggestions. Most importantly, all they ever do is waste my time with bullpoop politics.
CCP is starting to take an active interest in the player base's wants and desires, as evident by the WiS team actively engaging with players regarding the future of WiS. They talk to us, which, as I understand it, is what the CSM was designed to facilitate in the first place. Communication between players and the powers that be. Now that the powers that be have woken up and started paying attention, this CSM thing can go die in a fire.
+1
nobody wants your WiS crap |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
317
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Posted - 2012.01.19 01:39:00 -
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Thread #986144091784987127460 on disbanding the CSM. "Just because I seem like an idiot, doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |
Rhichi Ramjag
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.01.19 01:39:00 -
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Andski wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:The CSM doesn't ask me what I want or what is in my interests. They run out to CCP land with a short list of items that are populist in nature, or what serves their own alliance / power block agendas by nature of having the sheer support of thousands of sheep that fear for their membership and pretend that their interests are my interests.
And when I bother telling the CSM what my interests are, they tell me to get lost, that game designers do wonders or wont care about my interests or suggestions. Most importantly, all they ever do is waste my time with bullpoop politics.
CCP is starting to take an active interest in the player base's wants and desires, as evident by the WiS team actively engaging with players regarding the future of WiS. They talk to us, which, as I understand it, is what the CSM was designed to facilitate in the first place. Communication between players and the powers that be. Now that the powers that be have woken up and started paying attention, this CSM thing can go die in a fire.
+1 nobody wants your WiS crap
You are always good for a laugh my man.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1584
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Posted - 2012.01.19 02:34:00 -
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none of the "disband the CSM" threads really list anything that CSM 6 has done wrong, they just whine about the fact that less than half of the CSM members are part of large nullsec alliances (hint, the majority are not) |
Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
103
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Posted - 2012.01.19 07:22:00 -
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Andski wrote:none of the "disband the CSM" threads really list anything that CSM 6 has done wrong, they just whine about the fact that less than half of the CSM members are part of large nullsec alliances (hint, the majority are not)
Of course they don't dude. That would require :effort: and totally negate their baseless whine posts.
No-one asked for my opinion on what was discussed in Iceland between CCP and the CSM but as a rational human being, I can read and see that the changes proposed benefit all EVE players.
Here's a tip, instead of crying about no-one listening to your thoughts on game play mechanics, how about post them here so we can all see what you want to change? |
Blatant Forum Alt
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.19 10:04:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:The CSM doesn't ask me what I want or what is in my interests. They run out to CCP land with a short list of items that are populist in nature, or what serves their own alliance / power block agendas by nature of having the sheer support of thousands of sheep that fear for their membership and pretend that their interests are my interests.
And when I bother telling the CSM what my interests are, they tell me to get lost, that game designers do wonders or wont care about my interests or suggestions. Most importantly, all they ever do is waste my time with bullpoop politics.
CCP is starting to take an active interest in the player base's wants and desires, as evident by the WiS team actively engaging with players regarding the future of WiS. They talk to us, which, as I understand it, is what the CSM was designed to facilitate in the first place. Communication between players and the powers that be. Now that the powers that be have woken up and started paying attention, this CSM thing can go die in a fire.
+1
What is this ****? Grow a pair. |
Elane010
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.24 09:50:00 -
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+1 supported |
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fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
72
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Posted - 2012.01.24 12:38:00 -
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best thing that could happen to make the CSM less biased and usefull again was suggested by someone else in a channel i was in last night.
split the CSM into different categories. FW, trading, low sec pvp, null pvp, wh, incursions and many more. obviously some categoties would have to overlap. players put themselves up for the category they want to stand for, people vote. CCP would get a more balance feedback from the playerbase in theory. |
Samillian
Jump.Jump.Jump.
72
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Posted - 2012.01.25 14:24:00 -
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Deviana Sevidon wrote:They cannot claim to represent the majority of the playerbase
As the majority of the playerbase couldn't be bothered to take the two minutes required to vote at all this is a true statement.
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J Kunjeh
343
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Posted - 2012.01.25 16:17:00 -
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I think we should keep the CSM, but I think that CCP should implement a direct polling of the player base on a regular basis. And then when the CSM meets with CCP, the items up for discussion are those that were voted on by the player base in the polling. Add that to a CSM that is voted in based on the player style they play (candidates for HS, WH, Lolsec, etc.), and I think we'd have a much more useful system. "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
ShipToaster
116
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Posted - 2012.01.26 11:20:00 -
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Add in a polling option in the next poll to see what the playerbase thinks of the CSM. Then see if this thread has merit.
Incursion math? part 1 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=678400#post678400 part 2 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=698871#post698871 |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
362
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Posted - 2012.01.26 11:40:00 -
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Has anyone else noticed that almost every single 'Ban the CSM' poster has almost the exact same avatar? Its almost always a skinny chick with dirty brown hair, in almost the same pose and wearing a tshirt(which in eve are all the same).
Maybe I'm just nuts to think they all look alike, but surely someone else can see it.... o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Doikor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.26 12:01:00 -
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fuer0n wrote:best thing that could happen to make the CSM less biased and usefull again was suggested by someone else in a channel i was in last night.
split the CSM into different categories. FW, trading, low sec pvp, null pvp, wh, incursions and many more. obviously some categoties would have to overlap. players put themselves up for the category they want to stand for, people vote. CCP would get a more balance feedback from the playerbase in theory.
And what about inviduals like Mittani who mostly seems to represent goons. Who happen to do a lot of 0.0 sov stuff, fleet fights, pos, capitals, industry, ratting, mission running, incursions, PI, etc? You guys do realize that a lot of the big 0.0 alliance do just about everything you can do in this game. I think just about the only thing we goons don't do atm is wormholes and mining. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1134
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Posted - 2012.01.26 17:28:00 -
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Doikor wrote:fuer0n wrote:best thing that could happen to make the CSM less biased and usefull again was suggested by someone else in a channel i was in last night.
split the CSM into different categories. FW, trading, low sec pvp, null pvp, wh, incursions and many more. obviously some categoties would have to overlap. players put themselves up for the category they want to stand for, people vote. CCP would get a more balance feedback from the playerbase in theory. And what about inviduals like Mittani who mostly seems to represent goons. Who happen to do a lot of 0.0 sov stuff, fleet fights, pos, capitals, industry, ratting, mission running, incursions, PI, etc? You guys do realize that a lot of the big 0.0 alliance do just about everything you can do in this game. I think just about the only thing we goons don't do atm is wormholes and mining.
Lol.
Proove it.
Link me 1 single PI suggestion by a goon that would make eve better.
Show me a single Mittani post that would boost capitals.
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XXSketchxx
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
142
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Posted - 2012.01.27 00:54:00 -
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The utter stupidity of this thread is just....wow
You realize this subforum is....for the CSM to gather ideas to bring to CCP?
You really think they're going to bring this idea to CCP?
good god you are terrible |
Disband the CSM
0
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Posted - 2012.01.27 04:34:00 -
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DISBAND THE CSM!
It is terrabad, yo! |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1699
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Posted - 2012.01.27 06:12:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:Lol.
Proove it.
Link me 1 single PI suggestion by a goon that would make eve better.
Show me a single Mittani post that would boost capitals.
the leader of an alliance with a large supercapital fleet supports nerfing them
hmm andski for csm7~ |
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
261
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Posted - 2012.01.27 07:47:00 -
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Disband the CSM wrote:DISBAND THE CSM!
It is terrabad, yo! Ban NPC forum alts from csm forums. |
XXSketchxx
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
145
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Posted - 2012.01.27 13:47:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Disband the CSM wrote:DISBAND THE CSM!
It is terrabad, yo! Ban NPC forum alts from csm forums.
Better: one character per account can post, the one with most SP.
Solve the alt posting problem properly. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1139
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Posted - 2012.01.27 14:34:00 -
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Andski wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:Lol.
Proove it.
Link me 1 single PI suggestion by a goon that would make eve better.
Show me a single Mittani post that would BOOST capitals.
the leader of an alliance with a large supercapital fleet supports nerfing them hmm
And we all appreciate your failure at reading. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
989
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Posted - 2012.01.27 16:26:00 -
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We get 12 years of english classes but nothing for common sense and comprehension. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
XXSketchxx
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
155
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Posted - 2012.01.27 18:36:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:We get 12 years of english classes but nothing for common sense and comprehension.
ok |
None ofthe Above
6
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Posted - 2012.01.28 15:49:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: Ban NPC forum alts from csm forums.
They are allowed to vote, why not let them speak?
Tired of the current CSM? Vote for me, I am None ofthe Above!
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XXSketchxx
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
170
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Posted - 2012.01.28 21:10:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: Ban NPC forum alts from csm forums.
They are allowed to vote, why not let them speak?
Okay, ban them from voting too. |
Intar Medris
Globaltech Industries Sanctuary Pact
27
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Posted - 2012.01.29 02:32:00 -
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Every year someone post this bs. Right around time for the campaigning to begin. Instead of wasting time with this **** why don't you campain to get people to vote. Maybe then the CSM won't be a Null Sec circle jerk. |
Zleon Leigh
77
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Posted - 2012.01.29 04:20:00 -
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+1 Supported Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital.
CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
261
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Posted - 2012.01.29 09:43:00 -
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Intar Medris wrote:Every year someone post this bs. Right around time for the campaigning to begin. Instead of wasting time with this **** why don't you campain to get people to vote. Maybe then the CSM won't be a Null Sec circle jerk.
Because an election campaign is hard, and highseccers always want to take the easy option.
(that's why they're in highsec) ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
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