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maCH'EttE
Veto.
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Posted - 2007.09.13 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: maCH''EttE on 13/09/2007 19:41:10
Ok, I'm looking to build a PC for playing Crysis and also (mainly) for EVE's GFX update. Looking around, I've come up with the following setup and was wondering what ya'll thought.
Asus Striker Extreme NF680i Core 2 Quad Extreme 3GHz 4GB Corsair TwinX XMS2 Pro (4-4-4-12) 2x 768Mb XFX 8800 Ultra (Mem 2200MHz, GPU 650 MHz) Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty Pro 2x 500GB Seagate Barracuda ES 1000W Coolermaster Modular PSU
Was considering going for DDR3 RAM, but reading up on it, it doesn't seem that much better than low latency DDR2, plus I havn't found a motherboard which supports SLI and DDR3 (and I want to use nVidia GFX cards).
Anyway... Any thoughts?
Originally by: Devil Hanzo (ISD) I got pwned! 
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jam6549
Cold Blooded Killers
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Posted - 2007.09.13 20:03:00 -
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tbh ur setup will own EVE. I wouldn't mind seeing it fair against Crysis when that comes out
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Caid Lemant
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Posted - 2007.09.13 20:32:00 -
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A high RPM hard drive for applications.
Is this purely for gaming? Cause if so I see no need to go SLI or Extreme. You wont run into any issues with a non-Extreme quad or a single 8800 for a long time and will save around a grand. --------
There is not enough love and goodness in the world for us to be permitted to give any of it away to imaginary things. Friedrich Nietzsche |

Jevus
Darkwave Technologies Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.09.13 20:47:00 -
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Thats almost identical to the setup i've been looking at except my system has dual 150Gb 10,000rpm Raptor's.
The only reason I haven't bought it yet is because of Nvidia's next card release (believe its called the G80) supposed to be 3 x as good as current 8800GTX cards. Last i read it was due out Nove,ber/December (in time for christmas). But i might be wrong.
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maCH'EttE
Veto.
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Posted - 2007.09.13 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Jevus Thats almost identical to the setup i've been looking at except my system has dual 150Gb 10,000rpm Raptor's.
The only reason I haven't bought it yet is because of Nvidia's next card release (believe its called the G80) supposed to be 3 x as good as current 8800GTX cards. Last i read it was due out Nove,ber/December (in time for christmas). But i might be wrong.
I looked at the 10,000 RPM, 150GB Drives, but I currently have 160GB and it's full... G80 card sounds interesting.
Originally by: Devil Hanzo (ISD) I got pwned! 
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Caid Lemant
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Posted - 2007.09.13 21:18:00 -
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You wouldn't run a Raptor for storage, you'd have your OS on it along with select applications. --------
There is not enough love and goodness in the world for us to be permitted to give any of it away to imaginary things. Friedrich Nietzsche |

Jevus
Darkwave Technologies Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.09.13 21:29:00 -
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Sorry i should of been a bit clearer. The intention is to run 2 x 150 gb Raptors in Raid (For OS, and programs and Fraps), then have a 500GB internal storage drive and a 250GB removable USB drive (for pics and stuff).
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Reiisha
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.09.13 21:55:00 -
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Don't get the 8800 GTX for DX10. Wait for the 9000 series which is coming (very) soon, which have the added bonus of not getting into too much trouble with Vista.
If you're not planning on using Vista, get a dual 7900 GTX which apparently is faster... Or Crossfire 1950's.
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me bored
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Posted - 2007.09.13 22:03:00 -
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That's way ott. 2gb of ram and a single gpu will be running everything on full for a good half a decade or more by which point it would be time to upgrade anyway.
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Emma Peil
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Posted - 2007.09.14 05:13:00 -
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I recently built a mid-range gaming pc:
Prices are in Aussie dollars:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz 775-Pin $245 Motherboard: Gigabyte P35-DS3P $152 RAM: 2G Kit-667(2x1G)Corsair $109 (another 2x1GB sticks to be added when needed) HDD: W.D. SATA 320G $96 Case: Gigabyte Poseidon $115 GPU: 512M 2900XT $489 (dual graphics card to be added when needed) Optical Drive: Pioneer 212D SATA Black OEM $50 PSU: Coolermaster iGreen 600W $154
Total: $ 1,410 AU (586 GBP or 1,183 USD)
It's not the best by any stretch, but it DX10 compatible and will serve my gaming needs pretty well and for a decent price and can be upgraded as needed.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.09.14 05:20:00 -
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That's certainly a nice setup but rather pricey.
If money is no object to you then go for it.
Otherwise I'd go with a dual-core CPU and a single 8800GTX card. Quad core will gain you nothing in most applications (unless you do CAD or high end video stuff). SLI barely improves matters on most games.
Also, the 8800GTX is very nearly as good as an Ultra for a lot less cost. If you are into a it a bit of overclocking would likely get your GTX right in line with an Ultra or near enough.
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Templer Relleg
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.14 05:23:00 -
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Wait a while for DX10,1.
These requires special cards 
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Vincent Rainbow
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.09.14 05:39:00 -
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Edited by: Vincent Rainbow on 14/09/2007 05:42:23 Those modular PSU's are great. I just bought a 750MW Hipex one and it looks dead sexy and is quiet as a fish.
Check out the BFG Tech 8800 GTX and Ultra cards here if you haven't already. and the Terratec Aureon soundcards here if you want a real monster soundcard. I've always preferred Terratec to Creative soundcards as you can plug more things in to them and the sound quality is more hi-fi friendly.
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Devon Manticore
Minmatar Gear Third
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Posted - 2007.09.14 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 14/09/2007 05:37:24 That's certainly a nice setup but rather pricey.
If money is no object to you then go for it.
Otherwise I'd go with a dual-core CPU and a single 8800GTX card. Quad core will gain you nothing in most applications (unless you do CAD or high end video stuff). SLI barely improves matters on most games.
Also, the 8800GTX is very nearly as good as an Ultra for a lot less cost. If you are into a it a bit of overclocking would likely get your GTX right in line with an Ultra or near enough.
EDIT: And as another mentioned 2GB should suffice just fine for now unless you know you have special requirements (use some hefty CAD programs and such or run LOTS of things at once...I run EVE and my browser and Excel and Outlook and Winamp with 2GB RAM with no issue at all).
What he said. 
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.09.14 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jevus Thats almost identical to the setup i've been looking at except my system has dual 150Gb 10,000rpm Raptor's.
The only reason I haven't bought it yet is because of Nvidia's next card release (believe its called the G80) supposed to be 3 x as good as current 8800GTX cards. Last i read it was due out Nove,ber/December (in time for christmas). But i might be wrong.
You mean G90 graphics cpu by Nvidia. Which is bound to be released in November and accompanied with another chipset release by Nvidia also. I am awaiting for these to come out in order to do the much needed upgrade of my pc.
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Diomidis
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Posted - 2007.09.14 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: maCH'EttE Edited by: maCH''EttE on 13/09/2007 19:41:10
Ok, I'm looking to build a PC for playing Crysis and also (mainly) for EVE's GFX update. Looking around, I've come up with the following setup and was wondering what ya'll thought.
Asus Striker Extreme NF680i Core 2 Quad Extreme 3GHz 4GB Corsair TwinX XMS2 Pro (4-4-4-12) 2x 768Mb XFX 8800 Ultra (Mem 2200MHz, GPU 650 MHz) Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty Pro 2x 500GB Seagate Barracuda ES 1000W Coolermaster Modular PSU
Was considering going for DDR3 RAM, but reading up on it, it doesn't seem that much better than low latency DDR2, plus I havn't found a motherboard which supports SLI and DDR3 (and I want to use nVidia GFX cards).
Anyway... Any thoughts?
Some thoughts...
Always thought SLI as an overkill for the average gamer, and the 8800 GTX proved it by matching or surpassing in performance a 79xx series SLI pair...why bother with the extra noise and heat?
Future proofing your new PC is not possible...every 6 months or so something faster and possibly even cheaper may come around.
The same goes for the Quads which though affordable nowadays, are kind of useless for the most of us - unless you're seriously involved with CG creation. Few are the games that really support even a second CPU, and none of them even comes close to trouble a fast C2D. All in all, I am saying that the Quad can give you a slight advantage over a Dual Core system if you plan on playing on three EVE clients and transcoding your favourite movie at the same time, every day - but that itself proves the overkill. At least DON'T spend as much on the Extreme version...buy a similarly clocked "regular" version. The performance difference is undetectable in real life applications.
The dual 500GB drives in Intel's matrix RAID configuration really rocks...no need for Raptors IMHO, and the combination of RAID 0 and 1 is a nice addition...matrix RAID... The Western Digital line seams to perform a tad better though.
The PSU is also a bit on the un-needed side, especially if you 're not buying a second ultra-high speq card for SLI. 700-800W will save you money with no compromises.
The money you will save on the CPU, the second GPU and possibly the PSU will easily fund an upgrade to a 9xxx series GPU next year...
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.14 08:20:00 -
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P35 intel chipset motherboards support both crossfire and SLI and also DDR2 and DDR3.
the DDR2 vs DDR3 thing is just like it happened before with DDR and DDR2. it will take some time to get it going
still I would use a P35-based mobo. ---
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