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Mu'ad Diib
The Mighty
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Posted - 2012.01.19 12:17:00 -
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While I'm mining in asteroid belts I frequently take out NPC pirates with my scout drones. I then normally loot the wrecks and inevitably end up with small amounts of charges, afterburners, shields, etc that I don't need.
In a nutshell my question is: as a general rule, is is better to sell straight off, or reprocess then sell the ore?
An expanded version of this question: sometimes, because of the prevailing market conditions and/or the buyers available the loot is only sellable at a price that is below the normal market value. Is it better therefore, to save time and energy and just reprocess all of the loot on mass, and then sell the extracted ore?
I have Dyscalculia, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyscalculia) and consequently I have neither the ability nor the inclination to crunch the numbers each and every time. What I'm really loooking for here is some kind of rule of thumb from other players, (who may have more experience with selling stuff than me).
Thanks.
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Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.01.19 12:20:00 -
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As a general rule, it depends on your reprocessing skills, on the place you sell the stuff at, and on current market prices.
Rule of thumb, don't bother, the difference it makes is minimal. |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2012.01.19 12:21:00 -
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as a general thumb rule:
reprocess meta 0-3, sell meta 4
there might of course be exceptions from this rule based on your location and its market prices |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.01.19 12:25:00 -
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A rule of thumb:
'If it's meta 4, and you can sell it for more than 10k, sell it. Otherwise, recycle.'
Weapons, especially medium and up, are generally worth selling from around meta 3. All depends on the buyers in your area. Or if you're willing to haul to jita.
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Mu'ad Diib
The Mighty
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Posted - 2012.01.19 13:13:00 -
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Gilbaron wrote:...reprocess meta 0-3, sell meta 4
Would you mind just explaining this a bit more? It's probably jyst the combination of my Dyscalculia and Dyslexia, but I don't really understand what you mean.
Thanks.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. |
VinroC
Men in Black.
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Posted - 2012.01.19 13:16:00 -
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look at the item under info
there is a meta level
genrally the higher the meta the better the part
keep meta 4 and above for sale
some times level 3 like dod tracking disrupters , nuets ect
reprocess the others you usualy get more money from the minerals than selling it on market. |
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.19 13:20:00 -
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You can right click the column headers and add a column for Meta Level to your Items window in your hangar |
Nisa Darksoul
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.19 13:23:00 -
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meta 4 generally melts down into the same components as meta 0
and melting down meta 0 components usually gives you something near the mineral cost of the item, assuming perfect refinery skills.
so if it costs substantially more than the vanilla (meta 0) variant, then sell. |
Disdaine
209
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Posted - 2012.01.19 14:09:00 -
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Just get EveRefinery.
Loads your loot. Loads market prices from eve-central. Set your refinery skills.
Tells you in bright colours if it's better to sell or refine an item. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
Thundering Herd
269
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Posted - 2012.01.19 15:12:00 -
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Mu'ad Diib wrote:Gilbaron wrote:...reprocess meta 0-3, sell meta 4 Would you mind just explaining this a bit more? It's probably jyst the combination of my Dyscalculia and Dyslexia, but I don't really understand what you mean. Thanks.
Go to Show Info on the Module
Go to the Variations tab
Click the Compare button at bottom
Check the box for Meta
Presto.
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
784
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Posted - 2012.01.19 15:14:00 -
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Everything under 250K isk -->reprocess, will give you back more isk once you sell minerals. Metal scrap processing is a + when you do this often |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2012.01.19 15:55:00 -
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Gilbaron wrote:as a general thumb rule:
reprocess meta 0-3, sell meta 4
there might of course be exceptions from this rule based on your location and its market prices
Pretty much this - but check the prices on weapons turrets and bays. The low price on those is usually from some market asshat messing around with regional average. So a turret that sells for say 250K ISK might be one that people normally pay 1.5 million for. Keep the turrets and bays and check on what people are paying for them. |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.01.19 15:55:00 -
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Initially, try to sell each item. Look at the price that turns up. If it looks BIG sell it. If it looks small reprocess it. You'll find the array of NPC loot/salvage tends to be the same stuff over and over...which helps, because THEN if you see something odd in the package, it's likely to be something worth something...which tends to be almost never (even though "they" SAID the loot has been upgraded some humpty humpty updates ago.)
You could spend a lot of time researching the prices on the items, but remember, time is money. It might be cheaper to dump on the market, or reprocess and get on to that next mission. I have a station container labeled "market" I toss those things into that I want to sell. When there's a shipload, I take an hour off from popping our nation's enemies and go to the market. It's a lark.
Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
140
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Posted - 2012.01.19 15:58:00 -
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I made my first 500mill by selling meta2/meta3 200mm autocannons - that and the lovely small armour reppers which refined for more than they sold for.
Find a niche that makes margin and has volume. If that drops from rats (like autocannons did) then sell. If you're lucky enough you'll find a nice little niche where you can buy and sell while missioning/ratting and then you stop missioning and just buy/sell to fund things.
Oh and meta2/3 200mm acs sell better to newbies than meta4 so the volume is/was there (haven't looked lately) to make more isk faster.
tl;dr don't sell to the buy order until you've had a look at market history |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
217
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Posted - 2012.01.19 18:24:00 -
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Set yourself a threshold say 10K. If the item is less than that reproccess, you may make you slightly less on some stuff but is it worth the effort for 1-2K, anything over 10K it's probably worth selling, you may agian in rare cases loose a little money but it's unlikley it'll be much.
Generally don't worry too much about every isk, a lot of highsec miners don't even bother looting the rats that attack as it wastes mining time.
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Surge Roth
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.19 18:40:00 -
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Mu'ad Diib wrote:While I'm mining in asteroid belts I frequently take out NPC pirates with my scout drones. I then normally loot the wrecks and inevitably end up with small amounts of charges, afterburners, shields, etc that I don't need. In a nutshell my question is: as a general rule, is is better to sell straight off, or reprocess then sell the ore? An expanded version of this question: sometimes, because of the prevailing market conditions and/or the buyers available the loot is only sellable at a price that is below the normal market value. Is it better therefore, to save time and energy and just reprocess all of the loot on mass, and then sell the extracted ore? I have Dyscalculia, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyscalculia) and consequently I have neither the ability nor the inclination to crunch the numbers each and every time. What I'm really loooking for here is some kind of rule of thumb from other players, (who may have more experience with selling stuff than me). Thanks.
Be sure to loot rare spawns all the time. I can't count how many times I've flown a ship to a belt to see a faction spawn dead with a module worth millions and no one is around.
Salvage them too if you're capable, as they'll have a chance at dropping tech 2 salvage |
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