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lofty29 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.15 16:07:00 - [31] Roaden Dominix + Thorax would make lofty happy in pants --- Project Mayhem 2
Malena Panic Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.09.15 16:36:00 - [32] Yes plz! Pink, split weapons Thorax would rock so hard :)
Haffrage Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.15 19:33:00 - [33] Originally by: Arana Tellen Originally by: Haffrage ******* god no. Roden is utter crap. I'd rather have a creodron thorax Yeah an interdictor than cant use bubbles and gets a drone range bonus instead Explain how it couldn't use bubbles. T2 Tier 2 Battlecruisers \| Eve GUI Tweaks
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.16 03:05:00 - [34] Originally by: Haffrage Originally by: Arana Tellen Originally by: Haffrage ******* god no. Roden is utter crap. I'd rather have a creodron thorax Yeah an interdictor than cant use bubbles and gets a drone range bonus instead Explain how it couldn't use bubbles. Creodron don't do missile points. --------------------------------- Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz, 2GB Gskill DDR2 5400 @ 800mhh 4-4-4-12, Abit fatality mATX F-I90HD @ 334mhz, 8800GTS 320mb 2x250GB 7200.10s Raid 0, Vista 64 Home.
Dianeces Minmatar The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2007.09.16 03:27:00 - [35] Bubble launcher doesn't use a turret hardpoint.
Haffrage Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.16 06:27:00 - [36] Bubble launchers don't use hardpoints at all, why do you think people fit bubble launchers AND six missile launchers on their flycatchers/heretics? T2 Tier 2 Battlecruisers \| Eve GUI Tweaks
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.16 16:08:00 - [37] Originally by: Haffrage Bubble launchers don't use hardpoints at all, why do you think people fit bubble launchers AND six missile launchers on their flycatchers/heretics? Bang your head getting out of bed? Anyway destroyers are gun boats and interdictors lean far more towards missiles (except for the minmitar one) It would make sense to do the same with the cruisers. --------------------------------- Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz, 2GB Gskill DDR2 5400 @ 800mhh 4-4-4-12, Abit fatality mATX F-I90HD @ 334mhz, 8800GTS 320mb 2x250GB 7200.10s Raid 0, Vista 64 Home.
Djerin Obsidian Exploration Services	Posted - 2007.09.16 16:24:00 - [38] Originally by: Arana Tellen Originally by: Haffrage Bubble launchers don't use hardpoints at all, why do you think people fit bubble launchers AND six missile launchers on their flycatchers/heretics? Bang your head getting out of bed? Anyway destroyers are gun boats and interdictors lean far more towards missiles (except for the minmitar one) It would make sense to do the same with the cruisers. No, actually this would not make sense. But i dont care how they will design the slot layout. I just want to kill people from my pink Thorax. ---- Sarmaul's crosstrainorgtfo
Haffrage Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.16 18:53:00 - [39] Originally by: Arana Tellen Originally by: Haffrage Bubble launchers don't use hardpoints at all, why do you think people fit bubble launchers AND six missile launchers on their flycatchers/heretics? Bang your head getting out of bed? Anyway destroyers are gun boats and interdictors lean far more towards missiles (except for the minmitar one) It would make sense to do the same with the cruisers. I'm not entirely sure what it is you're trying to say, but you're still wrong. Bubble launchers don't use missile hardpoints And, even if you WERE right, CCP would have NO problems giving 1 missile hardpoint to a creodron ship for it to do its role Besides, the going theme seems to be capless weapons. Can you give me ANY other reason why CCP would flip around and make 3/4 turret boats into missile boats, leaving the only the ship with turrets that don't use cap alone? Because I sure can't. Anyway, I'd much rather see T2 tier 2 cruisers as the cruiser-class dictors. If we go by pre-existing models, this would mean Duvolle Vexor and Core Complexion Stabber as the two decent ones, with Khanid Omen and Lai Dai Caracal as the crap ones. Better than a Roden Thorax, ffs what a crap line of ships. Then again, a Viziam Maller or Kaalakiota Moa... T2 Tier 2 Battlecruisers \| Eve GUI Tweaks
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.16 23:24:00 - [40] Edited by: Arana Tellen on 16/09/2007 23:24:53 Originally by: Haffrage Originally by: Arana Tellen Originally by: Haffrage Bubble launchers don't use hardpoints at all, why do you think people fit bubble launchers AND six missile launchers on their flycatchers/heretics? Bang your head getting out of bed? Anyway destroyers are gun boats and interdictors lean far more towards missiles (except for the minmitar one) It would make sense to do the same with the cruisers. I'm not entirely sure what it is you're trying to say, but you're still wrong. Bubble launchers don't use missile hardpoints And, even if you WERE right, CCP would have NO problems giving 1 missile hardpoint to a creodron ship for it to do its role Besides, the going theme seems to be capless weapons. Can you give me ANY other reason why CCP would flip around and make 3/4 turret boats into missile boats, leaving the only the ship with turrets that don't use cap alone? Because I sure can't. Anyway, I'd much rather see T2 tier 2 cruisers as the cruiser-class dictors. If we go by pre-existing models, this would mean Duvolle Vexor and Core Complexion Stabber as the two decent ones, with Khanid Omen and Lai Dai Caracal as the crap ones. Better than a Roden Thorax, ffs what a crap line of ships. Then again, a Viziam Maller or Kaalakiota Moa... Last time I checked missile launchers are capless The pink thorax would use a missle/gun loadout like the eris. Roden: Ares (better at tackling larger targers than the taranis, FAST), Enyo (the DPS in small ship gangs), Eris (does its job), Lachesis (ownage in small gangs), Oneiros (excellent). The rupture like its destroyer counterpart would use mostly autocannons, the caracal would be obvious. The only REAL hiccup is that there is already a khanid maller . Then again there is already a crodron vexor (obviously) so it would be a roden vexor which would be a pink blob Anyway can you imagine an interdictor using drones? They are supposed to be FAST reacting ships, sure these are heavier versions but you dont want to be messing around with them, they would be rubbish. --------------------------------- Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz, 2GB Gskill DDR2 5400 @ 800mhh 4-4-4-12, Abit fatality mATX F-I90HD @ 334mhz, 8800GTS 320mb 2x250GB 7200.10s Raid 0, Vista 64 Home.

Haffrage Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.17 03:00:00 - [41] Originally by: Arana Tellen Last time I checked missile launchers are capless The pink thorax would use a missle/gun loadout like the eris. Roden: Ares (better at tackling larger targers than the taranis, FAST), Enyo (the DPS in small ship gangs), Eris (does its job), Lachesis (ownage in small gangs), Oneiros (excellent). The rupture like its destroyer counterpart would use mostly autocannons, the caracal would be obvious. The only REAL hiccup is that there is already a khanid maller . Then again there is already a crodron vexor (obviously) so it would be a roden vexor which would be a pink blob Anyway can you imagine an interdictor using drones? They are supposed to be FAST reacting ships, sure these are heavier versions but you dont want to be messing around with them, they would be rubbish. Have you actually flown the Eris? Have you flown a Sabre, or Heretic, or even Flycatcher? If you haven't done both, then NEVER talk about how a ship should be like the Eris. Seriously. Just don't. And of course missiles don't use cap, that's what I just said. The point of a dictor is not to light a bubble and die. The point of a dictor is to light a bubble and live long enough to light another. With guns that use cap, no passive tank that doesn't nerf its ability to tackle or immensely slow it down, this is nigh impossible in an eris. If you can't survive potshots you're doing it WRONG and should train any other racial frigate to V. The Caracal isn't "obvious," the Kaalakiota Caracal already exists. It's called the Cerberus. Also, Caracals and Vexors are tier 2. Mallers and Ruptures are tier 3. Tier 2 ships have less slots, cap, fittings, hitpoints, and guns than tier 3. But they do have less mass to make up for it! Yeah, mixing tiers is bad And yes, I have thought about a drone interdictor. Eventually I'll get around to a detailed writeup on how it would be a fantastic replacement for the Eris. T2 Tier 2 Battlecruisers \| Eve GUI Tweaks
Maximillian Power Minmatar The Dark Protectorate	Posted - 2007.09.17 07:24:00 - [42] Originally by: Haffrage Originally by: Arana Tellen Originally by: Haffrage ******* god no. Roden is utter crap. I'd rather have a creodron thorax Yeah an interdictor than cant use bubbles and gets a drone range bonus instead Explain how it couldn't use bubbles. I _think_ the point was: "Creodron do not make ships that fulfill their role very well. In fact, I believe that they are so bad at making ships that fulfill their role that if they were given the job of designing a heavy interdictor, the engineers would spend so much time on the basic aspects of the ship that they would completely miss the point and forget to install the electronic equipment necessary to fit an interdiction sphere launcher and therefore fail miserably in the task." Of course, I'm not saying I agree, and I am not saying that this is what was being said, but its how I read it and it made me smile (not rofl or even lol - just a nice warm smile). -------------------------------- So....
Boonaki Caldari Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.09.17 13:54:00 - [43] Has anyone thought of what everyone is going to name a long black geddon? Fear the Ibis of doom! 113
CHIKA QRE	Posted - 2007.09.17 15:07:00 - [44] YES! ***lente pink thorax is what I need!
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.17 15:11:00 - [45] Edited by: Arana Tellen on 17/09/2007 15:12:43 Edited by: Arana Tellen on 17/09/2007 15:11:57 Originally by: Haffrage Originally by: Arana Tellen Last time I checked missile launchers are capless The pink thorax would use a missle/gun loadout like the eris. Roden: Ares (better at tackling larger targers than the taranis, FAST), Enyo (the DPS in small ship gangs), Eris (does its job), Lachesis (ownage in small gangs), Oneiros (excellent). The rupture like its destroyer counterpart would use mostly autocannons, the caracal would be obvious. The only REAL hiccup is that there is already a khanid maller . Then again there is already a crodron vexor (obviously) so it would be a roden vexor which would be a pink blob Anyway can you imagine an interdictor using drones? They are supposed to be FAST reacting ships, sure these are heavier versions but you dont want to be messing around with them, they would be rubbish. Have you actually flown the Eris? Have you flown a Sabre, or Heretic, or even Flycatcher? If you haven't done both, then NEVER talk about how a ship should be like the Eris. Seriously. Just don't. And of course missiles don't use cap, that's what I just said. The point of a dictor is not to light a bubble and die. The point of a dictor is to light a bubble and live long enough to light another. With guns that use cap, no passive tank that doesn't nerf its ability to tackle or immensely slow it down, this is nigh impossible in an eris. If you can't survive potshots you're doing it WRONG and should train any other racial frigate to V. The Caracal isn't "obvious," the Kaalakiota Caracal already exists. It's called the Cerberus. Also, Caracals and Vexors are tier 2. Mallers and Ruptures are tier 3. Tier 2 ships have less slots, cap, fittings, hitpoints, and guns than tier 3. But they do have less mass to make up for it! Yeah, mixing tiers is bad And yes, I have thought about a drone interdictor. Eventually I'll get around to a detailed writeup on how it would be a fantastic replacement for the Eris. Well if you can't keep time then I suppose you can TRY to stick around. Personally I warp out and back in when its time to light up another bubble, due to my speed I strafe the enemy and plant a bubble and warp off again. You can check some minmitard videos for excellent examples. --------------------------------- Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz, 2GB Gskill DDR2 5400 @ 800mhh 4-4-4-12, Abit fatality mATX F-I90HD @ 334mhz, 8800GTS 320mb 2x250GB 7200.10s Raid 0, Vista 64 Home.
B0rn2KiLL DEATHFUNK Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.09.17 15:38:00 - [46] Originally by: Boonaki Has anyone thought of what everyone is going to name a long black geddon? Once you go black... --- Originally by: Oveur It's important to understand that EVE is a "PvP" focused game


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