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Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.14 14:22:00 - [1] Anybody in here, who happen to be one? My theory is that alot in here actually of the people in here, indeed are. But is this right? Sadly my doctor suggested that this might be the case that im indeed one of these people. Anybody else in the same boat?
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.14 14:58:00 - [2] Originally by: Dark Shikari Asperger's in my experience tends to be applied rather liberally as a label these days; its basically applied to anyone who isn't actually autistic, but is too smart to be fit into the usual "societal norms" of being a blathering idiot, and so the person is declared to have "Asperger's" because they're not perfectly ordinary. Im wondering what your experience exactly is. One of the major symtoms about aspergers is that the speech of the person is often delayed for a long time during childhood and motor function problems. Not to forget the extreme sensory that some people have. Aswell as sociaphobia.
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.14 15:07:00 - [3] Originally by: Dark Shikari the usual "societal norms" of being a blathering idiot Originally by: Warp away Aspargus Irony eh?
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.14 16:50:00 - [4] Originally by: Khadur I was diagnosis at age 10 DAMP = Deficits in Attention, Motor Control and Perception is a descriptive diagnosis which is commonly used in Scandinavian countries. It was introduced by the Swedish professor Gillberg in the 80's. Yes, alot of kids are these days in Denmark diagnosed with DAMP. But afaik theres not a clear link between aspergers and DAMP. While it does have some things is common, its not the same thing, right?!
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.14 20:29:00 - [5] Originally by: Caid Lemant Edited by: Caid Lemant on 14/09/2007 17:22:22 Edited by: Caid Lemant on 14/09/2007 17:16:43 Quote: I've never even heard of someone with Asperger's having motor function problems, ever. There's no delay in development of language or cognitive abilities, but motor function 'clumsiness' and other problems can exist in some fashion which can make their methods of speech seem different. Also autistic is pretty much correct, it's just functional autism without the delays in language or any other cognitive abilities. Remember that its a spectrum. As patch said, its not either you have it or not. Its made up of many parts.
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.15 08:32:00 - [6] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 15/09/2007 01:18:59 Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Caid Lemant snipped for length Hell, this could almost describe me. This is my point; Asperger's describes a set of symptoms that are not a disorder: they can describe almost anyone who is relatively intelligent. Having "no empathy" is a sign of being socially inept, its not a mental disorder. (The fact that nearly everyone smart I know when I was younger had been "diagnosed with Asperger's" even though none of them were remotely autistic does somewhat bias my thoughts though. To me it seems like yet another excuse to stuff kids full of Ritalin.) So everybody was diagnosed with asperger, eh? Listen to some of the interviews with Tony Attwood. Asperger isnt just small things like trouble with being social, or being clever. Theres much more things to it, which will be VERY different from a normal person. Not to forget the fact that aspergers often get depressions and OCD.
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.15 11:33:00 - [7] Edited by: Templer Relleg on 15/09/2007 11:33:41 Originally by: Great Artista This could be a Veto recruitement thread. No offence there, I lub you guys lots! Even Hussie... Is this bad? Btw. im sad how this thread got derailed. I asked how many actually have this syndrome, and we get a pointless discussion, which makes no sense.
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.15 12:09:00 - [8] Originally by: Great Artista Sorry for derail... No, I dont have it diagnosed, lack of empathy however was diagnosed when I went thru some psychological test. (I had to do it because of somewhat serious depression) It wasnt you who derailed it. It was DS
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.15 14:07:00 - [9] Originally by: Rana Ash Intresting i found this thread after reading an article about asbergers. I did this Testand scored a 5 which is low. A friend of mine scored 35 and her son which is diagnosed scored 45.. I scored 47. But its just a test, not a way of diagnosing.
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.15 17:44:00 - [10] Originally by: Jim McGregor On my second attempt I got 21. Its still higher than I would have liked, but this time I cant really blame it on anything. :) At least thats less than 35. Im still confused over a score of 47. Seems pretty extreme.
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.16 10:56:00 - [11] Edited by: Templer Relleg on 16/09/2007 10:58:49 Edited by: Templer Relleg on 16/09/2007 10:57:17 Originally by: Wizie Originally by: Caid Lemant Originally by: Wizie Aspergers isn't a mental disorder it's a way of life. So, autism is a choice? Aspergers is hardly full blown autism, it's one of several strands sure but in most cases we see kids who play to many video games and don't scoialise from a very early age hence they get older and don't have the skills to socialise and think they have aspergers. The problem is people on forums going "oh hay that sounds EXACTLY like me...HEY MUM IVE GOT ASPERGERS" Sir, you dont know what you are talking about. Please just get the hell out. Asperger isnt just the social part. Its so much more. The sensory experience, which is way different from normal persons. Motor problems. Often they get depression. Heres something for you: http://web.syr.edu/~rjkopp/data/as_diag_list.html That document lists just some of the things. But some of the more important ones arent listed. In general. Dont speak unless you know what you are talking about.
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.16 11:21:00 - [12] Originally by: Wizie tl;dr I think that fact that it made meaning then your other posts is pretty good.
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.16 12:07:00 - [13] Originally by: Great Artista Edited by: Great Artista on 16/09/2007 11:58:48 Aspergers is a cool thing? I never realized... EDIT Nor claimmed that I had one, wtf is that attitude btw... Hardly. But its a way of life i suppose. Not alot you can do.
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.16 13:39:00 - [14] Originally by: Victor Ivanov The ignorance in this thread is quite stunning. Even from someone like Dark Shikari, for whom I have a certain measure of respect. I have to agree with this Originally by: Victor Ivanov Finally, a word of advice: If you are shy, socially inept/insecure yet intelligent, feel misunderstood, teased in high school, have few friends etc: Congratulations, you are almost certainly a normal, introverted, geeky young man/girl. Don't jump to conclusions, and don't self diagnose if all you know about a condition are some assumptions of someone just as ignorant on the internet. Using a syndrome that you don't have to justify your actions is not just sad, it's selfish because it corrupts the public's perception of things. "He has Asperger? He doesn't seem so bad" leads to "Asperger = shy/insecure" which is just wrong, and mean to those with actual Asperger. My two cents. Sadly this is not self-diagnostic. I wish it was. Its my doctors sus****ion, having been trough a bit of the system already, it seems to be the case indeed. Not that it changes who one is. And this thread wasnt "OZMG I BE ASSBURGER", it was a theoretical question about how many here are aspies.
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.16 13:56:00 - [15] Originally by: Victor Ivanov Originally by: Templer Relleg Originally by: Victor Ivanov The ignorance in this thread is quite stunning. Even from someone like Dark Shikari, for whom I have a certain measure of respect. I have to agree with this Originally by: Victor Ivanov Finally, a word of advice: If you are shy, socially inept/insecure yet intelligent, feel misunderstood, teased in high school, have few friends etc: Congratulations, you are almost certainly a normal, introverted, geeky young man/girl. Don't jump to conclusions, and don't self diagnose if all you know about a condition are some assumptions of someone just as ignorant on the internet. Using a syndrome that you don't have to justify your actions is not just sad, it's selfish because it corrupts the public's perception of things. "He has Asperger? He doesn't seem so bad" leads to "Asperger = shy/insecure" which is just wrong, and mean to those with actual Asperger. My two cents. Sadly this is not self-diagnostic. I wish it was. Its my doctors sus****ion, having been trough a bit of the system already, it seems to be the case indeed. Not that it changes who one is. And this thread wasnt "OZMG I BE ASSBURGER", it was a theoretical question about how many here are aspies. My post was not aimed at anyone in specific, mate. And while it did indeed begin as a simple query regarding the number of people with Asperger Syndrome, what it turned into was a whole bunch of people saying "Hey, asperger...Isn't that when you are really smart but can't get a girlfriend?" Alright, so the above is paraphrased somewhat, but you get the general idea. :) Im sorry i misunderstood your post. But its hard to know who you are trying to aim at. I guess its just another weakness that comes with the assburger thing.
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.17 05:04:00 - [16] Originally by: Caid Lemant Originally by: Wendat Huron I'd say they get depressed, it's like being stuck on the login screen for life. There's a big difference between just being depressed and actually having depression. Let me just second this. Being depressed = Emo. We know that 75% of all teenagers today are like this. Having a depression isn't the same.
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.17 07:01:00 - [17] Originally by: Wizie Originally by: Patch86 Aspergers isn't a mental disorder it's a way of life. Thats why they call it Aspergers disorder then? I didnt see that comment before now. Its not called Aspergers disorder. Its caled Aspergers SYNDROME. You know the difference between the two of them?
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.17 07:14:00 - [18] Originally by: Death Kill Originally by: Templer Relleg Its caled Aspergers SYNDROME. You know the difference between the two of them? Asperger syndrome (also Asperger's syndrome, Asperger's disorder, Asperger's, or AS) is one of several autism spectrum disorders (ASD) that are characterized by difficulties in social communication and reciprocal social skills, and in restricted and stereotyped interests and activities Not so fast there buddy. Theres still a different. Asperger itself is a sydrome. But the symtomes you get, are disorders. Theres a fundamental difference. The syndrome itself describes a person, not the disorders.
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.17 07:28:00 - [19] Edited by: Templer Relleg on 17/09/2007 07:29:02 Originally by: Death Kill Originally by: Templer Relleg Theres still a different. Asperger itself is a sydrome. But the symtomes you get, are disorders. Theres a fundamental difference. The syndrome itself describes a person, not the disorders. thats why its also known as Aspergers disorder. You could easily say the same thing about eating disorders, thats its not really eating disorder but a syndrome of some kind. I really think you are splitting hairs here. I just think that saying disorder is so wrong. Its got a negative value to it. And all aspies i know are very happy about being who they are. They dont see it as a disorder per say. Originally by: Caid Lemant He's trying to clarify the difference between a syndrome and a disorder, there is no one singular Asperger's disorder. Asperger's is made up of many observable disorders that cohesively make a syndrome. Not all Asperger's cases are the same. I thought it had been cleared out earlier in the thread. But yeah, also that.
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.20 09:36:00 - [20] Edited by: Templer Relleg on 20/09/2007 09:37:54 Originally by: Siren Shiva Originally by: Verone it can be a difficult thing to deal with from my experiences. I'm sure with some tolerance and goodwill any damage can be prevented or mended, no matter the issue or syndrome involved. Have you interacted with aspies? Most of my friends(The few of them) are aspies. Even tho we know what the dangers are, it happens over and over again. The way the average person is, especially in regards to irony and sarcasme, its HARD. Its VERY HARD. But understanding the syndrome and what makes aspies happy goes a long way. But it will never shield you from saying something stupid, becuase it all depends on the mood of the aspies, which can be VERY hard to see. So how you might ask? When you talk to your aspie, state your CLEAR Intention. Dont wrap it all up in sugar words or sarcasm. State it clearly. Want an aspie to do something? State CLEARLY what you want and what you expect of the person. Also HOW. State it CLEARLY.

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