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Seth Shadoow	Posted - 2007.09.15 01:12:00 - [1] Edited by: Seth Shadoow on 15/09/2007 01:12:00 so... ive heard they're gonna nerf gallente drone boats.. ishtar myrm... any facts on this?
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.15 01:21:00 - [2] They are going to stop the EOS and Myrm from fielding 5 heavies but are going to extend the dronebay of the myrm at least so it can field more waves. --------------------------------- Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz, 2GB Gskill DDR2 5400 @ 800mhh 4-4-4-12, Abit fatality mATX F-I90HD @ 334mhz, 8800GTS 320mb 2x250GB 7200.10s Raid 0, Vista 64 Home.
Xanstin Gallente	Posted - 2007.09.15 01:31:00 - [3] Originally by: Arana Tellen They are going to stop the EOS and Myrm from fielding 5 heavies but are going to extend the dronebay of the myrm at least so it can field more waves. Did they ever actually say this, or are you going off the same bull**** everyone else is where they said they wouldn't discuss any changes to specific ships in a thread announcing a brand new feature not yet to be finalized? Seriously, not the same thing. And if they DID directly say the nerf was coming, please link it.
Lisento Slaven Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.09.15 01:37:00 - [4] "I'm sure you will all agree it stands to reason that having balanced ships is better than having one ship that is far better than all other other ships in it's class." This from CCP Hammer's post would suggest that some ship, better than all other ships in its class, is going to be "balanced." And since the other thread I stole that from primarily talked about Eos and Myrmidon...I think it was directed towards Myrmidon in the context. I will link in a few mins but it's the huge thread that has a link...you know...one of the other threads on the same topic. --- Put in space whales!
Xanstin Gallente	Posted - 2007.09.15 01:38:00 - [5] Originally by: Lisento Slaven "I'm sure you will all agree it stands to reason that having balanced ships is better than having one ship that is far better than all other other ships in it's class." This from CCP Hammer's post would suggest that some ship, better than all other ships in its class, is going to be "balanced." And since the other thread I stole that from primarily talked about Eos and Myrmidon...I think it was directed towards Myrmidon in the context. I will link in a few mins but it's the huge thread that has a link...you know...one of the other threads on the same topic. Yeah, and I didnt see that as a confirmed eos/ishtar nerf. At most you can extract "Myrm nerf" from that, no more.
Cha Jeng	Posted - 2007.09.15 03:29:00 - [6] actually in what was said he specifically called the dominix and the ishtar "heavy drone ships"
Zulana Chas Red Ballz	Posted - 2007.09.15 03:35:00 - [7] well if they Nerf the Ishtar and its ability to field heavies thats a damn shame. Given that the ship only has 3 high turret slots give the silly ship at least a 4th & 5th turret to compensate.
Cha Jeng	Posted - 2007.09.15 03:38:00 - [8] Yes, but like I said the ishtar was said to be a heavy drone ship, so the intent is clearly on letting it use heavies. Also I know I wouldn't complain if the ishtar drone bay got even bigger...
Ararius EP0CH Black Sun Cartel	Posted - 2007.09.15 03:45:00 - [9] If the Ishtar can field 5 heavys, then I dont see why the EOS cant =\ RIP my Dear Myrm. Im ugly, just look at my face!
Cha Jeng	Posted - 2007.09.15 04:03:00 - [10] I believe it was said to be because if you fit 7 guns it does more than a field command ship, and that is kinda the opposite of what was intended. But more than just taking the heavy combat drones from eos, does that mean no heavy repper drones or webber drones, or ecm drones as well? That will be crappy
Jojo Yohan Gallente Cskillzone DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2007.09.15 04:38:00 - [11] Originally by: Cha Jeng But more than just taking the heavy combat drones from eos, does that mean no heavy repper drones or webber drones, or ecm drones as well? That will be crappy It may or may not, depending on the bandwidth need of those drones and the available bandwidth on the ships.
Wideen Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.09.15 06:42:00 - [12] Originally by: Ararius If the Ishtar can field 5 heavys, then I dont see why the EOS cant =\ Because it can field 7 turrets and hence doesn't rely on drones as its only source of dmg as the Ishtar does? Originally by: P'uck I know somebody who heard somebody say that an Osprey defeated Chuck Norris. Twice. Need I say more?
Linavin Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.15 06:57:00 - [13] I seriously doubt the Ishtar will get hit, it'll probably maintain its position as a mini-domi. Eos is likley (either nerf its ability to field heavys or knock off 4 turrets), and the Myrm is a no brainer. Granted its really a boost for ships like the iskur, vexxor, and curse, since it allows for dronebays to get a decent boost (yay spare drones!) without everyone simply switching to heavys. ---
Elenath Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.09.15 07:43:00 - [14] Don't worry, our Gallente I-Win buttons aren't going into the bin yet.
DeadRow Dragonstar	Posted - 2007.09.15 08:00:00 - [15] Though I do hope that Eos still gets to drop 5 Heavies still and can see the myrmidon being pulled line with the other Tier2 BC. /DeadRow
The RepoMan Caldari Red Horizon Inc Red Horizon	Posted - 2007.09.15 08:45:00 - [16] I heard that they're going to make it so that the eos can only field lights to bring it in line with the other command ships, to promote it as a ew and logists platform, allowing it to use it's massive drone bay to carry many sets of light logistic, ew, and attack drones. Not. Seriously, wtf is wrong with you people there's no official word on any of this yet. Will the myrm get nerfed? You can be pretty sure of it, though if the drone bandwidth changes will be a nerf or a buff to it for the time being is unknown, and anyone who says otherwise is lying.
Evolyze Caldari Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.09.15 10:43:00 - [17] The myrm getting nerfed to mediums or less heavys is fine with me, it is easily the best tier 2 bc out atm. all of the other races tier II bc's have been nerfed to my knowledge so i think it deserves a nerf. I don't think that the Eos or Ishtar should be nerfed though, thats if they are planned to be i didnt think the dev post was that clear tbh. From what i have seen and heard The eos does have an advantage above other fleet command ships it definatly does more damage but dosnt have a tank anything like the other fleet command ships. If it lost some of its turret hard points but still was able to field heavy drones i think it would be fine, its a drone ship and would look silly if the ishtar could field heavy drones but the eos couldnt.
AntonioBanderas	Posted - 2007.09.17 08:28:00 - [18] Edited by: AntonioBanderas on 17/09/2007 08:32:24 being able to effeectively use drones as main source of dps, and THAN being able to fit full set of guns is overpowered. Period. If someone's asking me, i should leave dronebays of drone boats, and HALVE their highslits. I mean... having a sniper dominx deploying sentries is just wrong.
Methuselar	Posted - 2007.09.17 09:00:00 - [19] Originally by: AntonioBanderas Edited by: AntonioBanderas on 17/09/2007 08:32:24 being able to effeectively use drones as main source of dps, and THAN being able to fit full set of guns is overpowered. Period. If someone's asking me, i should leave dronebays of drone boats, and HALVE their highslits. I mean... having a sniper dominx deploying sentries is just wrong. Indeed. But it is actually hard to find a mid point for Myrm's drone power between Domi and Vexor at current drone size system. Unless they make Domi and Vexor a more pure drone ship and Myrm a med drone+gun ship ================================================ Holier Than Thou
Rin Kaeda Underground-Operators	Posted - 2007.09.17 09:45:00 - [20] Originally by: AntonioBanderas Edited by: AntonioBanderas on 17/09/2007 08:32:24 being able to effeectively use drones as main source of dps, and THAN being able to fit full set of guns is overpowered. Period. If someone's asking me, i should leave dronebays of drone boats, and HALVE their highslits. I mean... having a sniper dominx deploying sentries is just wrong. So... following your logic: Megathron should have 3 turret slots? (Since it can field 5 heavies, and is able to field full rack of neutron II's)
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2007.09.17 09:53:00 - [21] ôBecause it can field 7 turrets and hence doesn't rely on drones as its only source of dmg as the Ishtar does?ö When fitted with gang modules which itÆs made for you donÆt have 7 turrets and you dont have much PG left or cap left. 15 cap/sec just forthe 3 warfare links doesnÆt leave much for turrets once you have a tank fitted. Its needs the drones. Considering how much training it takes to use, 5 hvy drones should be ok. Passive shield tanking guide click here
AntonioBanderas	Posted - 2007.09.17 11:29:00 - [22] Edited by: AntonioBanderas on 17/09/2007 11:31:33 Originally by: Rin Kaeda So... following your logic: Megathron should have 3 turret slots? (Since it can field 5 heavies, and is able to field full rack of neutron II's) no. mega is a gunboat and should get his dronebay halved. i guess. i'm not really familiar with gallente ships. And by halved i don't mean literally halved, just redone so that ship could use only one way of dealing damage. All ather races have choices. Either you shield or armor tank. Either you use guns or missiles. Only gallente can have both. Not cool. So... following your logic: Megathron should have 3 turret slots? (Since it can field 5 heavies, and is able to field full rack of neutron II's)
Jarvin Kell Kingdom of Kador	Posted - 2007.09.17 13:24:00 - [23] Originally by: AntonioBanderas Edited by: AntonioBanderas on 17/09/2007 11:31:33 Originally by: Rin Kaeda So... following your logic: Megathron should have 3 turret slots? (Since it can field 5 heavies, and is able to field full rack of neutron II's) no. mega is a gunboat and should get his dronebay halved. i guess. i'm not really familiar with gallente ships. And by halved i don't mean literally halved, just redone so that ship could use only one way of dealing damage. All ather races have choices. Either you shield or armor tank. Either you use guns or missiles. Only gallente can have both. Not cool. Something like 90% of the ships in-game can field drones, not sure what your point there is. Are you suggesting that the dominix shouldn't have both a turret damage bonus and a drone damage bonus? Blasters have the shortest range of any turret and thus should have the highest raw DPS. A ship with a higher range may have lower DPS but will be applying that damage over a longer period of time in many engagements.
General StarScream Cybertronic Decepticons	Posted - 2007.09.17 13:56:00 - [24] lol if anything needs a nerf its the drake. [
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.09.17 14:11:00 - [25] Originally by: General StarScream lol if anything needs a nerf its the drake. It allready received a nerf... _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Laboratus Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.09.17 14:13:00 - [26] The only fact we have is that they are going to increase the drone bay sizes without enabling ships to field more drones than they do now, just more "ammo" and variety, everything else is pure speculation... ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Loki Farseer	Posted - 2007.09.17 17:05:00 - [27] Antonio, Obviously you are unfamiliar with Gallente anything... they are DRONE SHIPS. Caldari = ECM + Missiles (Well not as well anymore..) Minmitar = Holy Crap Fast held together with toothpicks, string, glue and a prayer. Amarr = ummm well yeah they are ****ed.. with few exceptions Gallente = DRONES + Hybrids. Honestly any BS should be able to fit 5 heavies especially Gallente BS's. It's a BS they are FRIKKEN HUGE... and they don't have 125m3 of room for 5 Heavies... come on. Honestly if they do nerf the drones with bandwidth about how many/much you can control in space I hope they add rigs to allow you to control more... Would make sense, upgrade the computers to handle/have more bandwidth on the ship...
Slayton Ford Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.09.17 17:10:00 - [28] Originally by: Loki Farseer Caldari = ECM + Missiles (Well not as well anymore..) Wrong, wrong, wrong. Caldari has ECM bonus the same way Minmatar has Web/TP and Gall has Damp bonus. ECM isn't damage. Damage wise, Caldari are Missle and Hybrid in the same form that Minmatar are Projectile and Missle. --------------- This sig has been censored in fear of recieving the ban hammer...
Loki Farseer	Posted - 2007.09.17 17:23:00 - [29] LOL, In the fine print I got that wrong. Saying that ECM isn't damage LMFAO... If ya can't Lock it (ECM) or Shoot it/Lock it cause of range (Damps) you don't do DPS, even in your 1200+ DPS shiny Mega or soon to be nerfed Myrmy or ANYTHING. ECM is DAMAGE (or the lack of it). Kinda like Range, Turret tracking/Falloff etc. Oh and the Gallente are DRONE BOATS (Drone Bonuses Hellooooo) which was the main gist of the post..

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