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Hyperforce99 Gallente Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.15 14:52:00 - [1] 1- CCP has caused these crashes with the latest Patch: WRONG The problem allready occured BEFORE the patch was launched 2- CCP should stop adding content and work more on server stability cause they are making the game run like crap: WRONG the server is constantly being upgraded and more capacity is added, but keep in mind that the amount of people playing eve is growing allmost exponentially. About 1 year ago the max number of players online at the same time was around 23K, right now its 35K thats nearly a 50% increase in 1 year. And keep in mind that Trinity 2 will very likely make your lives in fleet battles a lot nicer, even if you don't run the next-gen client. 3- Do something about the server are you professionals or what: WRONG CCP is doing everything they can to get this fixed, EVE is the lifeblood of CCP and if they can't fix an issue it means they have a serious problem on they're hands and so will all the players of EVE. 4- You should have used another version of MySQL: WRONG Yes it might have worked, it might not have worked but the point is, this can not be changed without completely rewriting the games basic systems. and even if they would do that, you really think you know more than CCP does about working with the largest single server system in the WORLD!!! 5- I lost my ship during a server crash and I won't get all my stuff back from the GM's or I don't get a response within 24 hours : STOP THAT With these server failures CCP's GM's are SWAMPED with these kind of requests, so don't expect to be able to cut in line, your not the only one hit with this. next to that, the GM's track what people had lost trough a system they call the garbage pile (everything destroyed in eve is put in there so GM's can pull stuff out easily, but they're rules specify they can only return things if there is proof it was caused by a server error, and that proof is not allways there, if they would give everyone what they told the GM's they lost then reimbushment could become chaotic very fast. 6- Roll back the server : Wrong rolling back the server is a last resort measure, and if they don't know the underlying problem, who says it won't happen again, or who says it will be fixed. (it could be a group of hackers thats bugging EVE for all we know) 7- I want the time I couldn't play repaid to me : I agree, partially Sure you should get your gametime reimbushed, but only if the time you couldn't play is actually worth mentioning, I may not have been active during most of the server crashes but not all servercrashes caused the server to be offline for extreme periods of time. If you want to **** and moan because you hate it that the server is going up and down, fine, do so, but don't think that CCP isn't trying to fix this.
My Joke	Posted - 2007.09.15 14:54:00 - [2] Originally by: Hyperforce99 1- CCP has caused these crashes with the latest Patch: WRONG The problem allready occured BEFORE the patch was launched 2- CCP should stop adding content and work more on server stability cause they are making the game run like crap: WRONG the server is constantly being upgraded and more capacity is added, but keep in mind that the amount of people playing eve is growing allmost exponentially. About 1 year ago the max number of players online at the same time was around 23K, right now its 35K thats nearly a 50% increase in 1 year. And keep in mind that Trinity 2 will very likely make your lives in fleet battles a lot nicer, even if you don't run the next-gen client. 3- Do something about the server are you professionals or what: WRONG CCP is doing everything they can to get this fixed, EVE is the lifeblood of CCP and if they can't fix an issue it means they have a serious problem on they're hands and so will all the players of EVE. 4- You should have used another version of MySQL: WRONG Yes it might have worked, it might not have worked but the point is, this can not be changed without completely rewriting the games basic systems. and even if they would do that, you really think you know more than CCP does about working with the largest single server system in the WORLD!!! 5- I lost my ship during a server crash and I won't get all my stuff back from the GM's or I don't get a response within 24 hours : STOP THAT With these server failures CCP's GM's are SWAMPED with these kind of requests, so don't expect to be able to cut in line, your not the only one hit with this. next to that, the GM's track what people had lost trough a system they call the garbage pile (everything destroyed in eve is put in there so GM's can pull stuff out easily, but they're rules specify they can only return things if there is proof it was caused by a server error, and that proof is not allways there, if they would give everyone what they told the GM's they lost then reimbushment could become chaotic very fast. 6- Roll back the server : Wrong rolling back the server is a last resort measure, and if they don't know the underlying problem, who says it won't happen again, or who says it will be fixed. (it could be a group of hackers thats bugging EVE for all we know) 7- I want the time I couldn't play repaid to me : I agree, partially Sure you should get your gametime reimbushed, but only if the time you couldn't play is actually worth mentioning, I may not have been active during most of the server crashes but not all servercrashes caused the server to be offline for extreme periods of time. If you want to **** and moan because you hate it that the server is going up and down, fine, do so, but don't think that CCP isn't trying to fix this. Too many assumptions and guesses in this post, to even bother about replying to it in detail.
Ponderous Thunderstroke Republic War Machine Industries	Posted - 2007.09.15 14:55:00 - [3] Edited by: Ponderous Thunderstroke on 15/09/2007 14:55:37 2 - Exponential would be a lot more than 50% But I agree with you.
Epica Caldari Exiled.	Posted - 2007.09.15 14:55:00 - [4] 8- Fix the problem or hundreds of players are going to quit eve!!!! -WRONG If everyone who would whine and threathen to quit eve really did it. The Eve community wouldnt grow so fast. "Death by very big pew pew blasters."
Ponderous Thunderstroke Republic War Machine Industries	Posted - 2007.09.15 14:57:00 - [5] Nobody quits Eve, they just sell their main and start playing their Goon alt.
Reverend Revelator Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.09.15 14:58:00 - [6] Originally by: Epica 8- Fix the problem or hundreds of players are going to quit eve!!!! -WRONG If everyone who would whine and threathen to quit eve really did it. The Eve community wouldnt grow so fast. If people didnt whine whine whine all the time, nothing would happen, and nothing would be fixed. It's apologist fanbois like the OP who are holding back the game -- Dead People Laugh At The Murder Of Love --
Hyperforce99 Gallente Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.15 14:58:00 - [7] Originally by: My Joke Too many assumptions and guesses in this post, to even bother about replying to it in detail. I can only get my information from the forums and things I know about eve from GM posts and news, but I think the main basis of each of these points is true.
Bakhal Yttrites Minmatar When The Children Sing	Posted - 2007.09.15 15:01:00 - [8] Originally by: My Joke Originally by: Hyperforce99 stuff Too many assumptions and guesses in this post, to even bother about replying to it in detail. What makes you think that this is full of guesses and assumptions? There are players here who do not work for CCP who know about these things, because they are involved in testing them, or were around to see them developed during alpha/beta. It's just that very few of us are in a position to be able to intelligently comment on this kind of material. Don't be so quick to just blow it off, I've heard references to some of this stuff before in other contexts.
Ardrilian Gallente Glowing Goat	Posted - 2007.09.15 15:16:00 - [9] Originally by: Reverend Revelator If people didnt whine whine whine all the time, nothing would happen, and nothing would be fixed. It's apologist fanbois like the OP who are holding back the game I partially agree. If nobody does complain, nothing much will ever get changed. However, most of the people complaining make it blatantly obvious that they don't know the first thing about the problem at hand. Saying things like "the currently instability issue is as easy to fix as a car" and that "CCP should just hire professionals who can do the job" doesn't help the least bit. It just makes the people posting it look rather stupid at best. Nobody is happy about the situation and everyone would welcome if the problem would get fixed rather sooner than later. But I completely agree with the OP on the point that most people just don't know anything about the complexity of the problem. Not that I would know everything for the matter but I can very well imagine that it isn't as easy as changing the engine of a car. And if somebody really thinks that CCP is rolling on the floor laughing at the players who are feeding them money every month it is their damn problem that they keep paying. If someone really is convinced that a company is just playing games with him/her (instead of the other way around), there would be no other solution than to cancel any subscription right away.
Sicori Malaki Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.15 15:32:00 - [10] agree with everything OP said. Finally someone with a little more common sense than the average 12yo. ______________ Only in the Tales that humans tell, do the hunters kill the wolf in the end.

Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation	Posted - 2007.09.15 15:50:00 - [11] Originally by: Sicori Malaki agree with everything OP said. Finally someone with a little more common sense than the average 12yo. :WRONG
Sicori Malaki Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.15 15:56:00 - [12] Originally by: Banana Torres Originally by: Sicori Malaki agree with everything OP said. Finally someone with a little more common sense than the average 12yo. :WRONG care to explain how a personal opinion can be wrong? ______________ Only in the Tales that humans tell, do the hunters kill the wolf in the end.
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.15 16:04:00 - [13] Edited by: Stitcher on 15/09/2007 16:06:15 Originally by: Sicori Malaki Originally by: Banana Torres Originally by: Sicori Malaki agree with everything OP said. Finally someone with a little more common sense than the average 12yo. :WRONG care to explain how a personal opinion can be wrong? It's my personal opinion that cows are made from green oatmeal. but anyway, yeah. I fully agree with the OP. My biggest complaint about EVE has never been the technology, or the gameplay, or anything like that - whenever I get irate about anything EVE-related, my ire is usually directed at somebody's unreasonable whining. People need to start differentiating between a reasonable request/suggestion and just being a 'tard. - The game is not the problem. The problem is that you are not adapting to the game.
Fujiko MaXjolt	Posted - 2007.09.15 16:17:00 - [14] Originally by: Reverend Revelator Originally by: Epica 8- Fix the problem or hundreds of players are going to quit eve!!!! -WRONG If everyone who would whine and threathen to quit eve really did it. The Eve community wouldnt grow so fast. If people didnt whine whine whine all the time, nothing would happen, and nothing would be fixed. It's apologist fanbois like the OP who are holding back the game LMAO!!! Most entertaining post EVER !

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