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Mithfindel
Amarr Ordo Crucis Argenteus
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:48:00 -
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The technology running the cluster works only on Windows.
'nuff said.
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:54:00 -
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If CCP didn't use windows no light would get into their offices.
So they would suffer from a vitamin D deficit. And you need vitamin D to have a strong backbone. And without a strong backbone CCP would cave in to the whiners and try to change the OS in a few days.
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Zaqar
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:56:00 -
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Aleyah Dawnborn
Caldari SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Banana Torres If CCP didn't use windows no light would get into their offices.
So they would suffer from a vitamin D deficit. And you need vitamin D to have a strong backbone. And without a strong backbone CCP would cave in to the whiners and try to change the OS in a few days.
This. ---
My God! It's logic! Flee! |

lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:41:00 -
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I always wondered if you could create perpetual energy from a dynamo which was efficient enough.
Example -
Dynamo linked to motor, which is powered by the dynamo. Get it spinning initially somehow, or use a burst of power, and if the dynamo was efficient enough you'd get perpetual energy, no? ---
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ThaMa Gebir
Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 I always wondered if you could create perpetual energy from a dynamo which was efficient enough.
Example -
Dynamo linked to motor, which is powered by the dynamo. Get it spinning initially somehow, or use a burst of power, and if the dynamo was efficient enough you'd get perpetual energy, no?
No, because of the resistance and heat in the cabling. You may be able to store it a long time but you would never have perpetual energy. ----------------------------
Confirmed heaviest member of RDEX........
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Segge Bolled
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Banana Torres If CCP didn't use windows no light would get into their offices.
So they would suffer from a vitamin D deficit. And you need vitamin D to have a strong backbone. And without a strong backbone CCP would cave in to the whiners and try to change the OS in a few days.
/signed, and not just because I loaded this thread to say exactly the same thing, either.
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Bodhisattvas
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: ThaMa Gebir
Originally by: lofty29 I always wondered if you could create perpetual energy from a dynamo which was efficient enough.
Example -
Dynamo linked to motor, which is powered by the dynamo. Get it spinning initially somehow, or use a burst of power, and if the dynamo was efficient enough you'd get perpetual energy, no?
No, because of the resistance and heat in the cabling. You may be able to store it a long time but you would never have perpetual energy.
No gravity and absolute zero might aid things a bit in your quest....
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Zalathar
Minmatar Biometaloid INC
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Posted - 2007.09.15 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Banana Torres If CCP didn't use windows no light would get into their offices.
So they would suffer from a vitamin D deficit. And you need vitamin D to have a strong backbone. And without a strong backbone CCP would cave in to the whiners and try to change the OS in a few days.
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Gecko O'Bac
Aquilae Stellaris Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.09.15 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Bodhisattvas
Originally by: ThaMa Gebir
Originally by: lofty29 I always wondered if you could create perpetual energy from a dynamo which was efficient enough.
Example -
Dynamo linked to motor, which is powered by the dynamo. Get it spinning initially somehow, or use a burst of power, and if the dynamo was efficient enough you'd get perpetual energy, no?
No, because of the resistance and heat in the cabling. You may be able to store it a long time but you would never have perpetual energy.
No gravity and absolute zero might aid things a bit in your quest....
Still, real perpetual energy is against the laws of thermodynamics...
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Brutor Shaun
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Posted - 2007.09.15 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 I always wondered if you could create perpetual energy from a dynamo which was efficient enough.
Example -
Dynamo linked to motor, which is powered by the dynamo. Get it spinning initially somehow, or use a burst of power, and if the dynamo was efficient enough you'd get perpetual energy, no?
I've always wondered - If you drink slowly, but continuously, could you reach the point of balance where you could pee non-stop?
Bookmark Idea - My skills
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Liisa
Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Bodhisattvas
Originally by: ThaMa Gebir
Originally by: lofty29 I always wondered if you could create perpetual energy from a dynamo which was efficient enough.
Example -
Dynamo linked to motor, which is powered by the dynamo. Get it spinning initially somehow, or use a burst of power, and if the dynamo was efficient enough you'd get perpetual energy, no?
No, because of the resistance and heat in the cabling. You may be able to store it a long time but you would never have perpetual energy.
No gravity and absolute zero might aid things a bit in your quest....
In order to have absolute zero nothing can move. As soon as something moves it is not absolute zero anymore.
P.S. with nothing moves it really means nothing, not even electrons around protons. Makes for a small problem, no? ----------------------------------
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Price Watcher
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Posted - 2007.09.15 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 I always wondered if you could create perpetual energy from a dynamo which was efficient enough.
Example -
Dynamo linked to motor, which is powered by the dynamo. Get it spinning initially somehow, or use a burst of power, and if the dynamo was efficient enough you'd get perpetual energy, no?
Having trained Thermodynamics up to level 4 I can give the three laws of thermodynamics in plain english.
1. You can't win.
2. You can't break even.
3. You can't even stay out of the game.
And that is why perpetual motion machines will never work. 
POST WITH YOUR ALT!
The Shame o' The Galaxy |

Tzt
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Posted - 2007.09.15 17:38:00 -
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wtb villard wheels
I have a cunning plan.....
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Del Narveux
Dukes of Hazard
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Posted - 2007.09.15 17:42:00 -
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oh man I am totally getting one of those, anyone know a US-based retailer so I dont have to fool with crazy shipping? _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
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Draximus Cane
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.15 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 I always wondered if you could create perpetual energy from a dynamo which was efficient enough.
Example -
Dynamo linked to motor, which is powered by the dynamo. Get it spinning initially somehow, or use a burst of power, and if the dynamo was efficient enough you'd get perpetual energy, no?
Friction would prevent this. -------------------------------------------------
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Pontifex Tellanius
S-44
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Posted - 2007.09.15 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: Pontifex Tellanius on 15/09/2007 19:21:22
Originally by: lofty29 I always wondered if you could create perpetual energy from a dynamo which was efficient enough.
Example -
Dynamo linked to motor, which is powered by the dynamo. Get it spinning initially somehow, or use a burst of power, and if the dynamo was efficient enough you'd get perpetual energy, no?
If there was a motor which had 100% efficiency, a dynamo with 100% efficiency and no losses in between it'd work fine. Although as others have pointed out you cannot make neither a motor nor a dynamo with 100% efficiency due to the world we live in.
Edit: spelling 
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Del Narveux
Dukes of Hazard
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Posted - 2007.09.15 19:22:00 -
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yeah, even in a frictionless environment a 100% efficient dynamo is impossible...youre basically leeching off some force to generate the current _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
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Lui Kai
Intergalactic Space Defense Force
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 I always wondered if you could create perpetual energy from a dynamo which was efficient enough.
Example -
Dynamo linked to motor, which is powered by the dynamo. Get it spinning initially somehow, or use a burst of power, and if the dynamo was efficient enough you'd get perpetual energy, no?
Oy! We obey the laws of thermodynamics round here! ----------------
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Bodhisattvas
Originally by: ThaMa Gebir
Originally by: lofty29 I always wondered if you could create perpetual energy from a dynamo which was efficient enough.
Example -
Dynamo linked to motor, which is powered by the dynamo. Get it spinning initially somehow, or use a burst of power, and if the dynamo was efficient enough you'd get perpetual energy, no?
No, because of the resistance and heat in the cabling. You may be able to store it a long time but you would never have perpetual energy.
No gravity and absolute zero might aid things a bit in your quest....
Gravity isn't helpful for perpetual motion, because it effects both sides of your machine. That is, it may drag one side of your wheel down to help you, but it's also dragging the other side down to hinder you. ------
Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
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Rana Ash
Minmatar Aeon Trinity
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Posted - 2007.09.15 21:22:00 -
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So what happends if you break the laws of thermodynamics?. Is there a fine or something?, is there are thermodynamics police?..
Inquiring minds wants to know 
Ļon Trinity is recruting, inquire within for details lyret dedreen
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Sorja
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.09.15 23:25:00 -
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If thermodynamics laws were accurate, the universe would not exist. Unless you throw God in the equation  ____________________ A gentleman is someone who can play the bagpipe, but who does not. |

Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Rana Ash So what happends if you break the laws of thermodynamics?. Is there a fine or something?, is there are thermodynamics police?..
Inquiring minds wants to know 
If you break the laws of therodynamics, half a dozen Concord spawn in and kill you. --
Billion Isk Mission |

oDDiTy V2
Epic.
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Posted - 2007.09.16 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Rana Ash So what happends if you break the laws of thermodynamics?. Is there a fine or something?, is there are thermodynamics police?..
Inquiring minds wants to know 
See the thing is that you can't. At least, thats the idea. :P
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Rana Ash
Minmatar Aeon Trinity
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Posted - 2007.09.16 00:19:00 -
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Edited by: Rana Ash on 16/09/2007 00:20:09 Edited by: Rana Ash on 16/09/2007 00:19:33
Originally by: oDDiTy V2 See the thing is that you can't. At least, thats the idea. :P
Oh yeah?, who's going to stop me?. Concord?  My new goal, besides the one where i take over the univers. Will be to break the law of thermodynamics and the laws of gravity..
Ļon Trinity is recruting, inquire within for details lyret dedreen
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Oedus Caro
Caldari Cross Roads
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Posted - 2007.09.16 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Price Watcher
Originally by: lofty29 Stuff...
Having trained Thermodynamics up to level 4 I can give the three laws of thermodynamics in plain english.
1. You can't win.
2. You can't break even.
3. You can't even stay out of the game.
And that is why perpetual motion machines will never work. 
What about the so-called zeroth law? 
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Nick Curso
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.16 02:56:00 -
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Edited by: Nick Curso on 16/09/2007 02:58:52
Originally by: Banana Torres If CCP didn't use windows no light would get into their offices.
So they would suffer from a vitamin D deficit. And you need vitamin D to have a strong backbone. And without a strong backbone CCP would cave in to the whiners and try to change the OS in a few days.
lmfao amazing
actually best thread ever tbh
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.09.16 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Oedus Caro What about the so-called zeroth law? 
Hmm... in plain English, would the 0th law be, "We're playing a game,"?
(And yes, I'm aware of what the 0th law actually is, a statement of the equality of heat across multiple systems.)
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LemonHamster
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Posted - 2007.09.16 03:28:00 -
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If you created a 100% efficient wheel/energy storing setup, all it could do was perpetually STORE energy. You would not have perputual energy, because you would only be able to get out the energy you put into it in the first place, before your method of extraction removed the energy and caused the device to cease working.
Hamsters lol amirite _____________ NYAH ^_^ |

Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.09.16 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: LemonHamster If you created a 100% efficient wheel/energy storing setup, all it could do was perpetually STORE energy. You would not have perputual energy, because you would only be able to get out the energy you put into it in the first place, before your method of extraction removed the energy and caused the device to cease working.
Hamsters lol amirite
1. 100% efficiency is thermodynamically impossible. 2. Perpetuality refers to the input energy alone, there is no reason that in this hypothetical, that you could have equally absurb outputs of >100% the inputs. 3. Hamsters create more energy through burning them and powering a steam turbine than having them run on their wheel. Not to mention throwing a mittful of hamsters into a furnace is quite satisfying.
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