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Alexand DeKovenWoolf
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:28:00 -
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Last week I filed a petition against the name of a corporation which I felt was truly tasteless, mean spirited and downright unacceptable, even for EVE.
I didn't expect instant action, however it took no less then 5 days to get a "Thanks, we'll look into it." OK, so be it.
However, it would appear that the corp in question is still flying about, more then a week later, sporting a name that, without any subtlety, recalls the people who perpetrated the terrorist attacks of 9/11/2001 and the weapons they used. I find that deeply troubling.
What exactly does it take?
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:33:00 -
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You stay far, far away from the 9/11 article on encyclopedia dramatica then.
Of course i do not know that specific corps name but freedom of speech > everything.
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Captian Internet
Lead Bricks
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Sokratesz
You stay far, far away from the 9/11 article on encyclopedia dramatica then.
Of course i do not know that specific corps name but freedom of speech > everything.
Is that the one about the synagogue?
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343conspiracy43345
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:34:00 -
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Edited by: 343conspiracy43345 on 17/09/2007 12:34:48
Some people in the USA, the citizens of this country, actually have the gall to say that we shouldn't mourn for 9/11 anymore and that it should be left in history books where it belongs. People were mad at others for leaving flowers and tokens of mourning at a site dedicated to the twin towers on this september 11th.
Do you know how sick in the head that is?
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: 343conspiracy43345
Edited by: 343conspiracy43345 on 17/09/2007 12:34:48
Some people in the USA, the citizens of this country, actually have the gall to say that we shouldn't mourn for 9/11 anymore and that it should be left in history books where it belongs. People were mad at others for leaving flowers and tokens of mourning at a site dedicated to the twin towers on this september 11th.
Do you know how sick in the head that is?
I am not saying mourning your dead is bad. I am saying that enforcing laws based on your feelings upon others is bad.
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Jenna Shame
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: 343conspiracy43345
Edited by: 343conspiracy43345 on 17/09/2007 12:34:48
Some people in the USA, the citizens of this country, actually have the gall to say that we shouldn't mourn for 9/11 anymore and that it should be left in history books where it belongs. People were mad at others for leaving flowers and tokens of mourning at a site dedicated to the twin towers on this september 11th.
Do you know how sick in the head that is?
Ah ... democrats...
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Deacon Ix
Ascendant Strategies Inc.
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
I am not saying mourning your dead is bad. I am saying that enforcing laws based on your feelings upon others is bad.
QFT
Originally by: Steini OFSI
The most efficient way to get a dev response is to have the word beer somewhere in your thread.
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Captian Internet
Lead Bricks
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:38:00 -
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Did some one say IBTL? because I think I just heard some one say IBTL
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:39:00 -
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Oh i see where this is going..
Originally by: Captian Internet
Did some one say IBTL? because I think I just heard some one say IBTL
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Captian Internet
Did some one say IBTL? because I think I just heard some one say IBTL
oh no you le didnt
Originally by: Captian Internet
Did some one say IBTL? because I think I just heard some one say IBTL
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Tammaria Snegallja
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Alexand DeKovenWoolf
sporting a name that, without any subtlety, recalls the people who perpetrated the terrorist attacks of 9/11/2001 and the weapons they used. I find that deeply troubling.
Please understand that EVE is a worldwide game. So what troubles the so-called "western world" may be looked upon totally different in other countries.
So, if someone wants to praise the heroism of the freedom fighters of 911---let them, even if you think about them as terrorists.
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Morrow Disca
Macrocosm Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:42:00 -
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This was a question about CCP policy, NOT the US, 9/11 or anything else. Eve has enough politics without dragging the real world into it.
So CCP, what is your policy on offensive names? 
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rig0r
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:42:00 -
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Leave real life out of the game, it is bound to cause trouble.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:43:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 17/09/2007 12:43:59
Originally by: Morrow Disca
This was a question about CCP policy, NOT the US, 9/11 or anything else. Eve has enough politics without dragging the real world into it.
So CCP, what is your policy on offensive names?
Define Offensive.
The matter here is who finds what offensive, not the did-the-jews-do-9/11-or-was-it-kuwait kind of crap thta belongs on ebaumsworld.
Originally by: Captian Internet
Did some one say IBTL? because I think I just heard some one say IBTL
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zilllii
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Of course i do not know that specific corps name but freedom of speech > everything.
there is nothing called freedom of speech on this server or in this game.
the decision is all up to CCP not any american notion of what they think they have the right to.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: zilllii
Originally by: Sokratesz
Of course i do not know that specific corps name but freedom of speech > everything.
there is nothing called freedom of speech on this server or in this game.
the decision is all up to CCP not any american notion of what they think they have the right to.
Duh.
There needs to be a policy that defines whats bad and what isnt. Not some random player petitioning nay name that he doesnt like. My mother died last year, and you dont hear me whining every time someone talks about supercaps, now do you?
Originally by: Captian Internet
Did some one say IBTL? because I think I just heard some one say IBTL
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Captian Internet
Lead Bricks
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Edited by: Sokratesz on 17/09/2007 12:47:18
Originally by: zilllii
Originally by: Sokratesz
Of course i do not know that specific corps name but freedom of speech > everything.
there is nothing called freedom of speech on this server or in this game.
the decision is all up to CCP not any american notion of what they think they have the right to.
Duh.
There needs to be a policy that defines whats bad and what isnt. Not some random player petitioning a name that he doesnt like. My mother died last year, and you dont hear me whining every time someone talks about supercaps, now do you?
Thats not funny my mother died that way
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
Revelation Space
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: 343conspiracy43345
Edited by: 343conspiracy43345 on 17/09/2007 12:34:48
Some people in the USA, the citizens of this country, actually have the gall to say that we shouldn't mourn for 9/11 anymore and that it should be left in history books where it belongs. People were mad at others for leaving flowers and tokens of mourning at a site dedicated to the twin towers on this september 11th.
Do you know how sick in the head that is?
Almost as sick as wealthy American businessmen funding the IRA 
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:55:00 -
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Alright i think it's time we call in...
Locktor Phil!
Originally by: Captian Internet
Did some one say IBTL? because I think I just heard some one say IBTL
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tammaria Snegallja
Originally by: Alexand DeKovenWoolf
sporting a name that, without any subtlety, recalls the people who perpetrated the terrorist attacks of 9/11/2001 and the weapons they used. I find that deeply troubling.
Please understand that EVE is a worldwide game. So what troubles the so-called "western world" may be looked upon totally different in other countries.
So, if someone wants to praise the heroism of the freedom fighters of 911---let them, even if you think about them as terrorists.
Quite the opposite, anything that would be considered obviously offensive in any part of the world should not be used in EVE.
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rig0r
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Alright i think it's time we call in...
Locktor Phil!
lol
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:58:00 -
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Oh and, archived for great justice.
Originally by: Captian Internet
Did some one say IBTL? because I think I just heard some one say IBTL
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Alexand DeKovenWoolf
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:59:00 -
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All I am asking is: Where is the line, if any, drawn?
It's not about freedom of speech, I don't think we get that in this game. Else no one would even suggest this particular thread should be locked. Nor would a great many corp names be ***** (bleeped?) when listed in these forums.
I understand and accept, perhaps even appreciate, that this game is "anything goes" to a much larger extent then just about any other online game in existence. That's part of the appeal but without a doubt something of a source of discomfort.
I just want to know what is acceptable and what is not. I don't even care to hear any justification.
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xBANDWAGONx
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Posted - 2007.09.17 13:00:00 -
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ummm... how about you post the name of the corp, so we can see if its really all that offensive... or if you just like to whine?
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343conspiracy43345
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Posted - 2007.09.17 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: 343conspiracy43345
Edited by: 343conspiracy43345 on 17/09/2007 12:34:48
Some people in the USA, the citizens of this country, actually have the gall to say that we shouldn't mourn for 9/11 anymore and that it should be left in history books where it belongs. People were mad at others for leaving flowers and tokens of mourning at a site dedicated to the twin towers on this september 11th.
Do you know how sick in the head that is?
I am not saying mourning your dead is bad. I am saying that enforcing laws based on your feelings upon others is bad.
This is true though. Isn't it sad?
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.17 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: xBANDWAGONx
ummm... how about you post the name of the corp, so we can see if its really all that offensive... or if you just like to whine?
Yes. Unless you actually tell us the name of the corp you're being too vague. Obviously if it's just the use of the word "terrorist" in a corp name, I think you should **** off. If it's worse than that, well lets hear it.
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Tammaria Snegallja
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Posted - 2007.09.17 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar
Quite the opposite, anything that would be considered obviously offensive in any part of the world should not be used in EVE.
Now, do I need to remind you that "freedom of speech" is considered offensive and even illegal in many parts of the world?
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Alexand DeKovenWoolf
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Posted - 2007.09.17 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: xBANDWAGONx
ummm... how about you post the name of the corp, so we can see if its really all that offensive... or if you just like to whine?
My understanding is that posting the actual corp name would violate the rules of this forum.
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Alloures
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Posted - 2007.09.17 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Rashmika Clavain
Originally by: 343conspiracy43345
Edited by: 343conspiracy43345 on 17/09/2007 12:34:48
Some people in the USA, the citizens of this country, actually have the gall to say that we shouldn't mourn for 9/11 anymore and that it should be left in history books where it belongs. People were mad at others for leaving flowers and tokens of mourning at a site dedicated to the twin towers on this september 11th.
Do you know how sick in the head that is?
Almost as sick as wealthy American businessmen funding the IRA
Sorry, we don't remember that far back. We forgot to program our VCR properly and now all our VHS tapes are messed up and the clock is blinking 12:00.
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Trishan
Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.09.17 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Alexand DeKovenWoolf
Last week I filed a petition against the name of a corporation which I felt was truly tasteless, mean spirited and downright unacceptable, even for EVE.
Indeed. And your name, I feel, is tasteless and downright unacceptable as it shares an astounding similarity to Alexandros, son of Priam, and provoker of the War on Troy, which killed many... which, I feel, you are samelessly mocking instead of mourning.
IOW, too soon?
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