EVE Search - Isn't it about time for new social skills ? Ingame...

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

Isn't it about time for new social skills ? Ingame...

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.18 06:53:00 - [1] Some form of "advanced diplomacy", and a set of corp-only (player-corp, I mean) equivalents of diplomacy/connections ? _ [CNVTF] is recruiting \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained
Eulalinda Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.18 07:02:00 - [2] I don't understand. With 190,000 paying EVE customers and game time costing $11-15/month, CCP collects from us $2.1-2.8 million/month ($25-34 million/year). Server upgrades?
Jotan Veer HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2007.09.18 07:03:00 - [3] What exactly would that accomplish? As far as I know corp standings towards NPC corporations are only relevant in case of high sec POS'es. HUN Corp. recruitment info (Hungarian players only)
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.18 07:10:00 - [4] L5 Diplomacy turns a -10.0 base standing into a -6.0 effective one, or a -5.0 one into a -2.0 one. You need at least -2.0 in all three standings (faction, corp, agent) with a certain agent to access it at all. Say you have a +10.0 personal standing with a certain agent, but you managed to get your faction standing down to -5.1 with the faction the agent belongs to. Bye-bye agent, for now. Same thing, but worse with personal agent standing. Get to -5.1 with an agent, and it's bye-bye that agent forever, even if you have +10.0 corp and faction standings. Corps need certain standing levels with factions to anchor POSes in highsec. Standings are trending towards the average of individual member standings, so, for most corps that are larger than a single player, it's quite troublesome. Having an equivalent "connections" skill for a corp would allow non-PvE, single-faction focused corps to actually anchor one with much less hassle. Also, jumpclone installation possibility would be slightly faster for new members. _ [CNVTF] is recruiting \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained
Org2	Posted - 2007.09.18 08:17:00 - [5] Edited by: Org2 on 18/09/2007 08:25:14 This is actually not a bad idea, but I would do it differently. Advanced DED connections - Penalizes anyone on a killmail when a combat ship kills an unarmed ship. Imposes a compulsary tax on each item the attacker loots and sells. Each level increases the tax by 10%.
RaTTuS BIG Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.09.18 08:25:00 - [6] if you are working for the enemy then you are porked... however all you have to do is run missions for the enemies of the enemy and you are ok ,, or fail a few important missions for the corp you are running to get access to them .... then grind them back up ... I know becuase I trained diplomacy 5 [on an alt] to be able to get to talk with a research agent - only to find that -2 wasn't enough - I'm not loosing the 1.3mil starship points for good reason. -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve & RaTTuS Home
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.18 08:34:00 - [7] Originally by: RaTTuS if you are working for the enemy then you are porked... however all you have to do is run missions for the enemies of the enemy and you are ok ,, or fail a few important missions for the corp you are running to get access to them .... then grind them back up ... I know becuase I trained diplomacy 5 [on an alt] to be able to get to talk with a research agent - only to find that -2 wasn't enough - I'm not loosing the 1.3mil starship points for good reason. Well, -2.004 (displayed as -2.00) is not enough, but -2.00...000 would just be. You can't get under -5.00 unless you kill at least one "enemy faction" ship afterwards of reaching -5.00...000 from derived faction standings. The "fail missions to gain standings for enemies" was deemed an exploit and therefore cough "fixed". You have to run friendly empire storylines to gain derived standings. Good news is that you should always have access to Ammatar and SOE agents, you hardly ever run into any of their ships in missions, and the derived standings caps are low enough to prevent going under the "beyond recovery" area. It takes forever though. By the way, that is IMPOSSIBLE for pirate factions. Have under -5 with all three Guristas, Blood Raiders and Sansha ? Bye bye all of them forever. No chance for recovery. Not with the current system. _ [CNVTF] is recruiting \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained
RaTTuS BIG Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.09.18 08:58:00 - [8] Originally by: Akita T The "fail missions to gain standings for enemies" was deemed an exploit and therefore cough "fixed". Umm I was told in petition that was a valid way of fixing the problem -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve & RaTTuS Home
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.18 09:03:00 - [9] Hmm, maybe storyline negative derived gains are still possible. TBH, I haven't tried that, my bad. Normal mission failure however, definetely not possible. _ [CNVTF] is recruiting \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.18 09:06:00 - [10] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 18/09/2007 08:36:53 Originally by: RaTTuS if you are working for the enemy then you are porked... however all you have to do is run missions for the enemies of the enemy and you are ok ,, or fail a few important missions for the corp you are running to get access to them .... then grind them back up ... I know becuase I trained diplomacy 5 [on an alt] to be able to get to talk with a research agent - only to find that -2 wasn't enough - I'm not loosing the 1.3mil starship points for good reason. Well, -2.001 (displayed as -2.00) is not enough, but -2.00...000 would just be. You can't get under -5.00 unless you kill at least one "enemy faction" ship afterwards of reaching -5.00...000 from derived faction standings. The "fail missions to gain standings for enemies" was deemed an exploit and therefore cough "fixed". You have to run friendly empire storylines to gain derived standings. Good news is that you should always have access to Ammatar and SOE agents, you hardly ever run into any of their ships in missions, and the derived standings caps are low enough to prevent going under the "beyond recovery" area. It takes forever though. And before you ask, no, splitting gang rewards doesn't work either. Storylines are unsplittable. By the way, recovery is IMPOSSIBLE for pirate factions. Have under -5 with all three Guristas, Blood Raiders and Sansha ? Bye bye all of them forever. No chance for recovery. Not with the current system. Impossible? What if another character ran missions for them with you in the gang (and split the mission reward)? Wouldn't that improve your standings? With excellent social skills and access to some, agents I imagine even a -9.9 standing could be repaired in a reasonable timescale, especially if you had several people doing it and they sequentially ganged you just before collecting the mission pay. Cut a deal with a 0.0 mission running corp...? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
RaTTuS BIG Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.09.18 09:17:00 - [11] storyline missions yes - normal ones no and no you don't get faction bonuses when in a gang -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve & RaTTuS Home
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.09.18 09:21:00 - [12] Originally by: Malcanis Impossible? What if another character ran missions for them with you in the gang (and split the mission reward)? Wouldn't that improve your standings? With excellent social skills and access to some, agents I imagine even a -9.9 standing could be repaired in a reasonable timescale, especially if you had several people doing it and they sequentially ganged you just before collecting the mission pay. Cut a deal with a 0.0 mission running corp...? Impossible. As Akite alredy pointed out, the storyline faction gains aren't splitted. So even if doing mission with a friend you get to 10 standing with one of the Serpentis corporations, if your modified Serpentis faction standing is lower than -2.00 no serpentis agent will speak with you.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.18 10:16:00 - [13] Well, the confusion might originate from the fact you can select "me and my gang completed the mission" for storyline missions (or at least you could, haven't even tried lately). However, only CORP standing increase and ISK rewards get split. Faction standing increase doesn't. _ [CNVTF] is recruiting \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained

Pages: [1] :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.