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Anderron Shi
Orb-Disc Industries Ltd
New Eden's Industrial Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.01.20 04:23:00 -
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I am finding myself disappointed with the performance of the ships I've had the pleasure of piloting as of late (Cormorant, Moa, etc.). I've only trained Caldari in the past. I have decided to take a month or so off from flying ships so that I can train up to a much better ship. I want to pilot frigates that are the fastest and hardest to lock onto, even if that means lower damage from my turrets and less HP. I would rather orbit enemies at close range than snipe. Is there one race that would cater to this type of play style, or does every race have a ship for each play style? I am just having a difficult time browsing for ships in the market, and it is timely to look at and interpret each ship's statistics, especially for a newer player. I want to train up to fly a tech 2, so I will be patient until I have the skills and ISK to fully fit and pilot a ship of this calibre. Any help would be greatly appreciated! I am clueless when it comes to ships.
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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
97
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Posted - 2012.01.20 04:28:00 -
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You're pretty much looking for frigates.
Assault frigs in particular are relatively boss, and getting a large buff soon. Since you appear to be skilled for gunboats, the Harpy is probably right up your ally. I personally prefer a rail harpy (skirmishes at around 20km), but an afterburner-fit blaster harpy does huge damage and can be rather hard to hit, though for a frigate the Harpy is a bit slow.
You might also look at the Caldari Navy Hookbill, which is extremely fast and rather tanky, though won't do as much damage as the Harpy. It uses missiles, though.
if you want to fly tackle in gangs, you might also like interceptors (though they generally aren't so good at direct combat). They pretty much exist to run around and hold onto things for gangs while everyone else shows up. The Caldari interceptors are generally considered a bit 'meh' though...the tackle ceptor, the Raptor, is very agile but significantly slower than most other ceptors.
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gfldex
275
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Posted - 2012.01.20 04:54:00 -
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Anderron Shi wrote:I would rather orbit enemies at close range than snipe.
You are asking for blaster boats. You may find pleasure in piloting Thorax, Brutix, Megathron.
At the other hand you are most likely asking the wrong question. A ship is a utility to get stuff done. If the ships doesn't fit to the stuff you intend to do you will find yourself between a rock and a hard place, no matter what ship your fly. So what do you want to do?
More gameplay, less waitplay! Down with AFK-Cloaking! Down with AFK-Alliances! Down with AFK-Mining! |
Anderron Shi
Orb-Disc Industries Ltd
New Eden's Industrial Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.01.20 04:59:00 -
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gfldex wrote:Anderron Shi wrote:I would rather orbit enemies at close range than snipe. So what do you want to do?
Mission until I am fit to fly PvP. And like I said before, orbit at close-range, travelling at high velocity, while being hard to target. DPS isn't my main focus.
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Anderron Shi
Orb-Disc Industries Ltd
New Eden's Industrial Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.01.20 05:06:00 -
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gfldex wrote:You may find pleasure in piloting Thorax, Brutix, Megathron.
Those ships are all slow.
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Chiana Moro
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
14
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Posted - 2012.01.20 10:46:00 -
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Anderron Shi wrote:I I have decided to take a month or so off from flying ships so that I can train up to a much better ship. I want to pilot frigates that are the fastest and hardest to lock onto
Don't stop flying about, you'll be bored.
Also - your Dramiel is over there ->
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J'Poll
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
88
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Posted - 2012.01.20 12:18:00 -
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For missions, go larger then frigate. Frigates are only good in level 1 and maybe some level 2 missions. Any higher level missions need Destroyer / Cruiser / Battlecruiser / Battleship size to be done (in that order, from lower level up to high level missions).
For pvp:
1.) Assault frigates = above avg speed, can be nice tackle + some DPS, great ships to do frig roams in.
2.) Interceptors = great ship in fleets with slower ships, slower guys count on you to burn to target at high-speed to tackle it so it is still there when the slow guys arive.
3.) Global fast frigate = *Yes here it comes again* the Rifter, put a speed-tank on it and it can do some damage while outrunning other peoples guns *with the exception of missiles, but on those you can outrun most of the explosion velocity*.
4.) One of the fastest ships (and really hard to kill) = Dramiel, it is the king at speed-tanking and kiting. Really hard to dictate the range against 1 of those as likely he can outrun you (even if you web him he is likely still faster then you are)
J'Poll
Recruiter - Imperial Legi0n
As a finishing touch, God created the Dutch |
Xerces Ynx
Unseen Academy
The Unseen Company
20
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Posted - 2012.01.20 12:35:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:For missions, go larger then frigate. Frigates are only good in level 1 and maybe some level 2 missions. Any higher level missions need Destroyer / Cruiser / Battlecruiser / Battleship size to be done (in that order, from lower level up to high level missions).
It's good to have a cruiser as backup for some really hard lvl 2 missions, where destroyer gets killed quickly.
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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
98
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Posted - 2012.01.20 13:56:00 -
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Quote:Mission until I am fit to fly PvP.
so...you're PVPing now? |
Anderron Shi
Orb-Disc Industries Ltd
New Eden's Industrial Alliance
6
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Posted - 2012.01.21 04:44:00 -
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Kahega Amielden wrote:Quote:Mission until I am fit to fly PvP. so...you're PVPing now?
No, not as of yet.
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Nisa Darksoul
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.01.22 03:51:00 -
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Anderron Shi wrote:Kahega Amielden wrote:Quote:Mission until I am fit to fly PvP. so...you're PVPing now? No, not as of yet.
Fairly certain the point of the question was "you're always fit to pvp"
just head out to low and have some fun, avoid the camps and you can meet some very interesting people. |
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
107
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Posted - 2012.01.22 05:51:00 -
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Anderron Shi wrote:Kahega Amielden wrote:Quote:Mission until I am fit to fly PvP. so...you're PVPing now? No, not as of yet.
My best kills in the last week have been in a t1/meta-2 fit cormorant.
what the hell is your definition of being ready for PVP? |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Ponies for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids
867
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Posted - 2012.01.22 09:13:00 -
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One word... rifter.
Here are some fun fits that are somewhat.... not normal 
http://brutorbullfighter.blogspot.com/2011/05/rebellious-rifters.html
(Save the Crazy Dual Rep Rifter for when you know what you're doing, that is one batshit insane frigate to fly... hull fighter) |
Anderron Shi
Orb-Disc Industries Ltd
New Eden's Industrial Alliance
14
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Posted - 2012.01.24 19:43:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Ok, so I decided on the Rifter. Suprisingly, it requires barely any training to fly...Why is this? Which fit do you recommend for me to use for a move to lowsec to find something new to do besides trade and mission like I do in high-sec?
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Jouron
Hadon Shipping
17
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Posted - 2012.01.24 19:47:00 -
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If you have a ton of cash you could try Dramiels even in their current nerfed state their still not to be trifled with, or a republic fleet firetail. |
Anderron Shi
Orb-Disc Industries Ltd
New Eden's Industrial Alliance
14
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Posted - 2012.01.24 19:52:00 -
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Jouron wrote:If you have a ton of cash you could try Dramiels even in their current nerfed state their still not to be trifled with, or a republic fleet firetail.
I've got about 70 mil on hand, and about the same amount wrapped up in markets. But I've decided on the Rifter, and I'm leaning toward this loadout: 150 DPS, 4500 EHP Shield Tank Rifter.
I think that'll be just the right amount of ISK to put into it without going completely apeshit when (not if) I get killed. Hopefully I don't get podded, my implants were expensive 
What do you guys think?
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Anderron Shi
State Protectorate
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.01.27 08:24:00 -
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Well, I took my Rifter out for a spin for some factional warfare. I got podded.
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Teowulff Odinson
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2012.01.27 09:07:00 -
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Anderron Shi wrote:Well, I took my Rifter out for a spin for some factional warfare. I got podded.
Well what did you expect? You got ambushed 5 vs 1.
Keep in mind that with your low skills and your meta 0 modules, you don't fly a 150 DPS, 4500 EHP Shield Tank Rifter.
Unless you're lucky or a very capable pilot you'll be a free kill for most other players when you get caught.
Skill up, try a destroyer or better: find someone to fly with.
And at least try to get some meta 1-4 modules if you can't fit T2. |
Anderron Shi
State Protectorate
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.01.27 17:05:00 -
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Teowulff Odinson wrote:Anderron Shi wrote:Well, I took my Rifter out for a spin for some factional warfare. I got podded. Well what did you expect? You got ambushed 5 vs 1. Keep in mind that with your low skills and your meta 0 modules, you don't fly a 150 DPS, 4500 EHP Shield Tank Rifter. Unless you're lucky or a very capable pilot you'll be a free kill for most other players when you get caught. Skill up, try a destroyer or better: find someone to fly with. And at least try to get some meta 1-4 modules if you can't fit T2.
It wasn't an ambush, we had 6 or 7 guys, 4 who decided to wimp out when we ordered the fleet to warp. So it was me and two others. Also, I wasn't fitted with the 150 dps 4500 ehp yet, had some training left.
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Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
35
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Posted - 2012.01.27 17:08:00 -
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one thing about getting in real close to other ships is you can get neuted out. Nothing worse then sitting there pointed/webbed with no cap left. Just watching your ship get blown up 
On holiday. -áIn some other world.
Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours.
To a bright centre of absolute convicton. -áWhere the dripping patchouli was more than scent. -á
It was a sun |
Anderron Shi
State Protectorate
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.01.27 18:36:00 -
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Lyron-Baktos wrote:one thing about getting in real close to other ships is you can get neuted out. Nothing worse then sitting there pointed/webbed with no cap left. Just watching your ship get blown up
Yeah, I really don't regret the decision I made to be so gung ho. I could afford to lose my ship. I was just becoming so bored with this game, and put my trust in the Caldari State Protectorate militiamen. This was a bad choice.
The only thing I can't replace right now are the implants I had plugged in. But lesson learned, I won't be buying a full set of +5s anytime soon, at least until I can get a jump clone.
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
386
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Posted - 2012.01.27 20:20:00 -
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Anderron Shi wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:one thing about getting in real close to other ships is you can get neuted out. Nothing worse then sitting there pointed/webbed with no cap left. Just watching your ship get blown up Yeah, I really don't regret the decision I made to be so gung ho. I could afford to lose my ship. I was just becoming so bored with this game, and put my trust in the Caldari State Protectorate militiamen. This was a bad choice. The only thing I can't replace right now are the implants I had plugged in. But lesson learned, I won't be buying a full set of +5s anytime soon, at least until I can get a jump clone.
General Miltia members tend to be just bad. Period. Find a militia corp and join up with them, particularly if they are newbie-friendly. A good example is my corp, Rifterlings. However, we fight for the Minmatar, and are USTZ, so I don't know if you can fit in.
Also don't fly Rifters with expensive implants until you know how to escape with your pod. |
Anderron Shi
State Protectorate
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.01.27 21:36:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Anderron Shi wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:one thing about getting in real close to other ships is you can get neuted out. Nothing worse then sitting there pointed/webbed with no cap left. Just watching your ship get blown up Yeah, I really don't regret the decision I made to be so gung ho. I could afford to lose my ship. I was just becoming so bored with this game, and put my trust in the Caldari State Protectorate militiamen. This was a bad choice. The only thing I can't replace right now are the implants I had plugged in. But lesson learned, I won't be buying a full set of +5s anytime soon, at least until I can get a jump clone. General Miltia members tend to be just bad. Period. Find a militia corp and join up with them, particularly if they are newbie-friendly. A good example is my corp, Rifterlings. However, we fight for the Minmatar, and are USTZ, so I don't know if you can fit in. Also don't fly Rifters with expensive implants until you know how to escape with your pod.
http://1stmc.killmail.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=944741&view=kills&m=01&y=2012
lol right outside of Jita...yeah, i found a militia corp to join.
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Ireland VonVicious
Gurista Saints
Assassin Confederacy
17
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Posted - 2012.01.28 05:37:00 -
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Don't fly a full set of anything.
Use 2 implants on your pvp jump clone. The 2 you are currently needing to train with.
Add any hardwiring that floats your boat or finds your lost remote.
The dram is nice for what you want but too pricey for what you are doing.
Assult frigs should get you that nice middle ground between cheap rifter and way to expensive for your budget dram. |
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