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Kunming
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Posted - 2004.02.15 19:03:00 -
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OK; the last patch was called "Castor", the next big one will be called "Shiva" (which is the goddess of Indian belief)...
Do these names have anything related with EVE or is the dev team just having fun?
Shiva created life and gave magical items to ppl. Will CCP liven up the EVE universe with the next patch?
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Racknan
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Posted - 2004.02.15 19:07:00 -
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they are the code names for the various tech releases.
Its a common practice to use code names like that.
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Kunming
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Posted - 2004.02.15 19:38:00 -
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Well code names have actually something to do with its project!
Like military operation: ex. "desert storm" was in the desert...
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.02.15 19:39:00 -
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Ok, when is the Kali patch due?
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.02.15 19:56:00 -
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The Overlord patch is for when everyone owning over a billion isk gets to be jovians with jumpdrives to rain fire across the galaxy and eat Captain Concord for breakfast.
Catchy operational names is good for the workforce morale, as simple as that.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.02.15 20:37:00 -
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Ok, when is the Kali patch due?
After Shiva..seriously
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
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Shannon Foraker
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Posted - 2004.02.16 08:22:00 -
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Quote: Well code names have actually something to do with its project!
Like military operation: ex. "desert storm" was in the desert...
ROFL... well you obviously don't now what code names are for then... they are usually words that have NO CONNECTION TO THE PROJECT IN QUESTION.
For instance the Department of Defence use a random word generator to link to their projects... When starting up a new project they ask for a new codeword/codegroup which then is generated and checked that it hasnt been already used.
Then another thing look at the codenames of processors or even Windows.... Or do you think Windows Longhorn will be supplied with a free Antelope???
Codenames are there for multiple purposes and is a normal way of doing projects like Eve... and for the joker who asked when is Kali coming out you will probably be amused to find out that there IS a Kali release of Eve in the pipeline apparently... after Shiva I heard. Gemini and Castor are actually from Astrology.
Actually I wonder when we are gonna get the Pollux release heh... Or am I talking a load of Pollux as it is
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Skaz
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Posted - 2004.02.16 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: Skaz on 16/02/2004 11:19:04
Quote: Well code names have actually something to do with its project!
Like military operation: ex. "desert storm" was in the desert...
actally the most common practice to name an operation is something so unrelated and ridiculously far from the truth, as to confuse the enemy. In the Pentagon for example they have a simple name generator for operations, which they sometimes override for political purposes "Operation Iraqi freedom" or if the name is extremely weird "Operation Josef Stalin"
Game developers seem to use something at the top of their heads or something that has personal meaning to them.
Edit: I should read the ENTIRE thread before replying to it, someone might have answered before
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Kerosene
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Posted - 2004.02.16 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: Kerosene on 16/02/2004 11:59:11
Quote: blah
Langoliers dude... Langoliers.
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Nuala Reece
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Posted - 2004.02.16 17:14:00 -
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The first phase of Eve was Gemini, wasn't it? In greek myth the twins Castor and Pollux, the brothers of Helen of Troy, were placed among the stars after their death, later becoming known as Gemini.
Castor came to be considered a patron deity of seamen and voyagers, and was also famous for taming horses - so maybe he's apropriate for the introduction of tech 2 ships. Also St. Elmo's fire was at an earlier time referred to as Castor and Pollux - they sailed on the Argo in search of the golden fleece; during a storm the bard Orpheus played his harp to calm it, causing stars to appear above both brothers' heads.
Shiva is a hindu deity and a force of change - change through destruction and restoration. He's also the husband of Kali - the Mother Goddess and great destroyer. According to the legend, Kali fought a demon and lost control, spiralling off into a destructive spree that threatened to destroy all of creation. Seeing this Shiva threw himself beneath her feet, causing her to pause in her destruction and thus saving creation from total annihilation.
Maybe the names don't relate to the story line, but I'm guessing their may be some connection at least. Wasn't there some kind of ancient prophecy in one of the Eve Chronicles?
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.02.16 17:47:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Well code names have actually something to do with its project!
Like military operation: ex. "desert storm" was in the desert...
ROFL... well you obviously don't now what code names are for then... they are usually words that have NO CONNECTION TO THE PROJECT IN QUESTION.
For instance the Department of Defence use a random word generator to link to their projects... When starting up a new project they ask for a new codeword/codegroup which then is generated and checked that it hasnt been already used.
Then another thing look at the codenames of processors or even Windows.... Or do you think Windows Longhorn will be supplied with a free Antelope???
Codenames are there for multiple purposes and is a normal way of doing projects like Eve... and for the joker who asked when is Kali coming out you will probably be amused to find out that there IS a Kali release of Eve in the pipeline apparently... after Shiva I heard. Gemini and Castor are actually from Astrology.
Actually I wonder when we are gonna get the Pollux release heh... Or am I talking a load of Pollux as it is
Actually the original name of desert storm was bananorama but people thought it was kind of silly to refer to it as operation bananorama __________ Capacitor research |
Trevedian
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Posted - 2004.02.17 06:45:00 -
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Quote: OK; the last patch was called "Castor", the next big one will be called "Shiva" (which is the goddess of Indian belief)...
Do these names have anything related with EVE or is the dev team just having fun?
Shiva created life and gave magical items to ppl. Will CCP liven up the EVE universe with the next patch?
If oranges were blue... Would they still call them oranges?
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.02.17 09:34:00 -
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Ok, when is the Kali patch due?
Thats a scary thought
This is not a hijack
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Tuwile Naldai
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Posted - 2004.02.17 12:11:00 -
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Quote: Or do you think Windows Longhorn will be supplied with a free Antelope???
hehe
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Aturayd
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Posted - 2004.02.17 12:36:00 -
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If Gemini is tech 1, Castor is tech 2, and Shiva is slated to be tech 3, would Kali be tech 4? ----------------------------------- about:blank |
Shannon Foraker
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Posted - 2004.02.17 12:43:00 -
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Quote: If Gemini is tech 1, Castor is tech 2, and Shiva is slated to be tech 3, would Kali be tech 4?
Brings me in mind of Babylon 5... Series 4 was the peak of the war so Kali would fit in well if the war in Eve peaked...
Here is a quote from another website:-
Quote: Kali ("the black one") is the Hindu mother goddess, symbol of dissolution and destruction. She destroys ignorance, maintains the world order, and blesses and frees those who strive for the knowledge of God. In the Vedas the name is associated with Agni, the god of fire, who had seven flickering tongues of flame, of which Kali was the black, horrible tongue. This meaning of the word has meanwhile been replaced by the goddess Kali, the grim consort of Shiva.
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Alexis Machine
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Posted - 2004.02.17 14:40:00 -
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Let's not forget they're from iceland. Those people are crazy anyway.
Maybe a dev is hindu.
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if you don't wake up, i'll have to stop kissing you. all that flailing has made you sleepy. you rest while i untie you. stay here until they find you. My hand made mannequin. i won't let them get you. they'll know you're mine by the fingerprints on your throat. isn't she lovely? isn't she wonderful? like the *****s that we are, swatting flies from the wounds we design. |
Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.02.17 14:42:00 -
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Yes that would explain Operation Market Garden, no-one could see that one hitting Holland.
It is lagoliers, it will remain lagoliers, I don't misspell my signatures.
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Sabian Arcturus
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Posted - 2004.02.17 15:02:00 -
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When it comes to Gemini, it's a constellation, and interestingly enough, Castor and Pollux are twin-stars within the Gemini constellation. So I half expected Pollux to be the next release (T3)
Shiva has conflicting meanings, ranging from the God(dess) of Creation, all the way through to God(dess) of Destruction.
Castor & Pollux also have mythilogical history, with Pollux being the son of Zeus, and Castor the son of Tyndareus, the King of Sparta. There's a whole bucket load of stuff that went down between Castor, Pollux, Pollux's son Heracles and Tyndareus. A bit of compiled info for you:
Gemini, the Twins, are really only half-brothers. They share the same mother (Leda) but have different fathers. Castor's father was a king of Sparta, Tyndareus - who would be chased from his throne but later rescued by Heracles (who nevertheless wound up killing him). The father of Pollux was none other than Zeus, or Jupiter. Zeus visited Leda on her wedding night in the guise of a swan. Thus the twins would be born. (In fact two twins came from this double union, but let's not complicate the matter even more...)
It should be said, however, that Pollux had a sister as well by Leda and Zeus: the beautiful Helen, who would become Queen of Sparta, and whose abduction by Paris would lead to the Trojan War.
Castor was a great horseman and fighter. One of his pupils was Heracles. Like Heracles, both Castor and Pollux would become Argonauts, that is, join Jason in his quest for the golden fleece.
The twins spent their time raiding cattle and abducting young women, as Greek gods were wont to do. During one such cattle raid a cousin (Idas) became enraged at Castor and killed him. Zeus threw a thunderbolt at Idas, killing him instantly.
Since Pollux was the son of Zeus, he was immortal. But Pollux mourned over his brother's loss to such a point that he wanted to follow Castor into Hades. Zeus was so stricken by Pollux's love for his brother, he allowed them both to share Hades and Olympus, (on alternate days). Later Greek writers had Zeus place the two in the heavens side by side.
The only knowledge I have of "Kali" is that it's the common name for what a pshrink would call "negative energy", for example fear, anger, jealousy and grief. Kali emanates from the warrior goddess Durga in times of peril, and like a bloodthirsty whirlwind slays the demons of ignorance which conflict the human mind. In her greatest of such archetypal battles, Lord Shiva had to throw himself at her feet to halt her. Dancing upon his body, she calmed and brought the universe back to life, as symbolized by Shiva's enigmatic smile.
Nice link between Shiva and Kali there, but I still have no idea why they're names for possible major releases in Eve. Castor and Pollux make sense to me, being linked to Gemini in a lesser sense. I figured they'd pick other stars from the Gemini constellation for the other major releases. CCP only knows
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Tra wo
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Posted - 2004.02.17 15:07:00 -
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Edited by: Tra wo on 17/02/2004 15:14:29 All I know is that I'm a gemini
castor and pollux(Polydeuces) = Twin sons of Zeus & 2 stars in the constaliation of the gemini.......
so a pollux patch is neded?
Kali and shiva also comes together in a unity.
then as a uberpatch we could have zain.....
The message of Zain is, that if we look deep within, we are all the same. Therefore we cannot but meet ourselves through others. However, the components that we essentially have in common may still be hidden in our subconscious...
Edit: check tarot card #17 (the lovers)
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.02.17 15:36:00 -
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Code names have tended to be random ever since King George the Stupid launched "Operation Invade Saxony On June 12th At Six In The Morning." It wasn't very successful.
The USA seems to be somewhat reversing this strategy, but then, the USA is so big and strong in military terms that they don't need to care if the enemy knows what they're going to do - the enemy still can't stop them.
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Nuala Reece
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Posted - 2004.02.17 15:47:00 -
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Quote: The father of Pollux was none other than Zeus, or Jupiter.
I didn't know that - makes me think. Doesn't the word 'Jove' derive from Jupiter?
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.02.17 16:05:00 -
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Quote: The father of Pollux was none other than Zeus, or Jupiter.
I didn't know that - makes me think. Doesn't the word 'Jove' derive from Jupiter?
In earthly terms, it does. Whether the Jovians of the EVE world take their name from the same origins, CCP would have to tell us.
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Ishkur
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Posted - 2004.02.17 17:11:00 -
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Hmm. I think Kali and Shiva are both part of Hindu star names? Shiva seems to be related somehow to the Pleiades (big dipper) constellation... Kali is mentioned in relation to Sagittarius... Can't find anything concrete, though, on the "prestigous Internet" and I don't feel like looking any further.
My guess is that the code names have some root in astrology, but no clue exactly what.
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Tra wo
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Posted - 2004.02.17 18:34:00 -
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My guess is that the code names have some root in astrology, but no clue exactly what.
aye even so Malkuth is also a tarot thingy. and shiva is also some what mentioned there. They call em fingers but why dont they fing? |
Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.02.17 19:33:00 -
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WOW. You guys have way too much time on your hands. --------------------------
Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies |
XpoHoc
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Posted - 2004.02.17 19:48:00 -
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No time to read all replies, so not sure if someone already said it. All patch names have a meaning, ie Shiva is the god of destruction and resurretion, the Shiva patch gives us stations that can be build by players and destroyed by players.
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Rual Storge
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Posted - 2004.02.18 15:04:00 -
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Quote: Then another thing look at the codenames of processors or even Windows.... Or do you think Windows Longhorn will be supplied with a free Antelope???
If it doesn't I'm taking it back...
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Kunming
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Posted - 2004.02.18 23:17:00 -
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Quote: No time to read all replies, so not sure if someone already said it. All patch names have a meaning, ie Shiva is the god of destruction and resurretion, the Shiva patch gives us stations that can be build by players and destroyed by players.
To all those that did NOT agree with my thinking, I must remind you that EVE is NOT a military operation; and I apologize for my misleading example in the begining.
I think with the upcoming patch names, we will have some clue what CCP wanted to add to the EVE universe.
Quote: I didn't know that - makes me think. Doesn't the word 'Jove' derive from Jupiter?
Jupiter means Father Jove (Father in Latin is "pater"). There was a big temple in Rome dedicated to Jupiter Optimus Maximus (which means Jupiter Best and Greatest). The Romans thought that Jupiter guarded their city and looked after them.
Jupiter was king of the Gods. His weapon was the Thunderbolt (thunder and lightning). All other gods were terrified of him, although he was a little scared of his wife Juno! Jupiter, Neptune and Pluto were the three sons of Saturn. They divided up the world between themselves. Jupiter took the air, Neptune had the sea and Pluto ruled under the earth, the home of the Dead.
Also back in beta times we had a contest that had to do something with Jove; the price was a beta-account!
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