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Posted - 2007.09.21 04:37:00 -
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Edited by: Spacer X on 21/09/2007 04:43:14
Nanotardz and The Phoenix Mercenaries are the current ones. Others I recall recently were Murder-Death-Kill who went after their POS's, Grief Junkies, and I cant recall the others atm
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.21 06:20:00 -
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The ones that are just stupid wanna-gankers, PO'd because they got caught can-flipping and thus wardec hoping for cheap ganks and crying newbies, I laugh at. Because I know the Uni is going to make their stay in Korsiki a very unpleasant one. It's the 03-04-05 corps of dedicated griefers, that I can't understand. What kind of pleasure and/or profit can you possibly get from deccing the Uni? They're poor, they fly ships the Minmatar would barely claim as their own, and they counterattack with ECM and T1 equipment. Not only that, but the dozen or so instructors/veterans they carry are all generally seasoned pilots, so it's not like you're ganking a corp full of ignorant industrials. The risk/reward in taking them on is extremely poor, they're going to attack in the most annoying/effective way a newbie can, and you get better ISK returns fighting belt rats in 0.7 space...so what gives?
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Dashhammer II
Amarr
O RLY corp
YTMND.
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Posted - 2007.09.21 07:10:00 -
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Empire-Pirate sits in Jita watching the gate. He sees a frieghter AFKed at the gate and thinks 'Man... if only my corp had wardecked those guys'.
So they do. Now they are sitting in Jita staring at the gate saying 'Any minute now... any minute now...'
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.21 07:13:00 -
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Eve University is truly one of the few "good" organizations in the game and whoever wardecs them is just looking for easy ganks and to improve their k:d ratio with t1 frigate kills.
Name and shame.
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Production Wer
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Posted - 2007.09.21 09:34:00 -
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Edited by: Production Wer on 21/09/2007 09:35:51
Given the support for Eve Uni from so many of the largest corps/alliances shouldn't there be an agreement that anyone who war decs them gets a war dec back and a big smack. CEOs could agree who its most appropriate to do this. It would probably soon stop.
sorry posted with alt don't know how to change this please don't click
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Felice Remillard
Flatline Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.21 09:41:00 -
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Is the point of the OP that Eve Uni doesn't want the wardecs or that you are just not sure what the point is?
I would have thought that wardecs are a useful thing to Eve Uni. Isn't it another opportunity to teach your members some vital skills? I admit that constant wars might prevent you from doing some of the great things you do but if you're teaching PvP then great, free highsec targets. 
Does Agony have the same problem or is that comparing apples with oranges?
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.21 09:47:00 -
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I can't speak for the Uni, but as an ex-member my perception was that they didn't mind fighting (in fact, the newbies get flat out ecstatic when they get decced, not knowing any better), it's just that war without end disrupts normal operations and doesn't let them recruit or teach. The Uni isn't a dedicated PVP outfit, it tries to teach a little of each part of the game, and there's more to EVE than just PVP.
AGONY is pure 0.0 though, so I don't think wardecs bug them at all. Just more places to shoot people.
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.21 09:52:00 -
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They can't recruit new members during wars. However, Eve-Uni does do a good job of fighting back during the wars. And I believe the OP was referring to why it is done. Afterall, Eve-Uni has no money. So you aren't earning isk by going to war with them. Eve-Uni students are in t1 frigates, and are less fun to fight than NPC rats. Eve-Uni's older PvPers are actually good at what they do, and have effective war-time strategies, so someone war-deccing Eve-Uni does stand to lose a lot of their own stuff. There are few other explanations available for why someone would take on a dangerous, poor, and genuinely helpful alliance.
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Sarmea Moon
Gallente
The Graduates
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.21 10:04:00 -
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 Originally by: Erotic Irony
Originally by: Duraeli
Originally by: Daszha
Anyone wardeccing eve-uni for a prolonged period of time is a piece of crap and is actively damaging the eve community.
Have to agree with this one here.
o/
Mad props to MC for taking their outpost.
To be fair, they were hired to take out our capital ship yards. We were in Big Blue at the time, and had sold a mothership to the Establishment. The first I heard about it was when MC started building up to attack. We were never officially told who was behind it, but we all had our good guesses:)
Eve-Uni has always been my first and only love:)
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Dashhammer II
Amarr
O RLY corp
YTMND.
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Posted - 2007.09.21 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Eve University is truly one of the few "good" organizations in the game and whoever wardecs them is just looking for easy ganks and to improve their k:d ratio with t1 frigate kills.
Name and shame.
Indeed, eve university isn't any kind of respectable target. Name and Shame.
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Dez Erichs
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.21 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Felice Remillard
Does Agony have the same problem or is that comparing apples with oranges?
Apples and oranges. As was said, Agony is a 0.0 corp, so wardeccing us is a waste of isk. If someone wants to fight us, they can find us in 0.0. Even when we were new, the wardecs were not renewed after a week (Art of War, INFOD, Mordu's Angels, etc.).
Beating up on an Academy corp like Eve Uni is shameful, new players simply cannot defend themselves. I'm with many in this post, let us know who are the lamers and the problem will likely be taken care of. 
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Trillian Dent
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.09.21 11:11:00 -
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very sad, if someone has to wardec EVE UNI.
post the list of wardecs :D
"I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by."
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Akun'kunik
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2007.09.21 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Akun'kunik
Posting with an unidentified character in this forum is prohibited, if you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected])
is that better now.........
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Dark Flare
Caldari
Corpus PCG
The State
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Posted - 2007.09.21 11:27:00 -
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People are [insert expletive here]s. They probably think deccing a neutral training corp makes them awesome and cool or something.
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azrael211
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
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Posted - 2007.09.21 11:32:00 -
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Eve uni is a great concept and would have saved me several months of mining tbh when I first joined...its a pity that people like easy ganks from noobs.
Ivy League pop in to our 0.0 space on comabt trips and they usually get wipped out but they learn loads really fast, I have also seen them wipe out numbers of BS using t1 fitted t1 frigs which is fairly cool for 2m sp players. Byut its about learning the gmae and how to survive not all out combat or they would move to 0.0 and setup like every other major corp.
Name and shame the atacking corps you might be surprised that there are corps out there which may step up to your problems and provide support for free to a good cause.
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Kelduum Revaan
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.09.21 12:41:00 -
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I'd like to thank everyone for their support, and clarify a few things officially.
Originally by: Felice Remillard
Is the point of the OP that Eve Uni doesn't want the wardecs or that you are just not sure what the point is? . . . Isn't it another opportunity to teach your members some vital skills?
To be honest, wardecs are something that we could probably live without. For live fire, we have LoSec and 0.0, and we have semi-regular frigate free-for-alls amongst the students to give them some PvP experience on a level playing field where they stand a chance.
The post was to see if there is anything we aren't aware of that has caused the wars - there is very little profit (as can be seen from our killboard, its clear that when people wardec us they dont make money), and anyone doing so will likely find themselves camped in station for hours at a time. As has been mentioned, wars are disruptive to what we do, and while the occasional short one can be fun, extended periods under war conditions can be problematic.
As for the people calling for me to 'name and shame', the purpose of this post is not to request help or shame current war targets into retracting wars - it is simply to see if there are any underlying issues anyone is aware of which may have precipitated them. That said, its easy enough to locate who we are currently at war with - both parties are listed on both our killboard and in game under the corp interface.
Originally by: Production Wer
Given the support for Eve Uni from so many of the largest corps/alliances shouldn't there be an agreement that anyone who war decs them gets a war dec back and a big smack.
While its appreciated, its probably not really necessary, at least in this case. However if any of the high-ups in the larger alliances want to speak to me privately about some kind of arrangement along those lines, my evemail is always available.
Thank you all again for your support.
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Kelduum
Diplomat, Ivy League
Director, Eve University
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ArmyOfMe
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.21 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Daszha
Anyone wardeccing eve-uni for a prolonged period of time is a piece of crap and is actively damaging the eve community.
/signed
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Kindra Blades
Caldari
Celestial Pillagers
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.21 13:22:00 -
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Kelduum, you guys do the world of Eve a wonderful service. Keep up the good work and I'm glad to see that you meet these war decs head-on and continue to stride forward. My hats off to you, Kassie, Caligulus, Silent, Dee, and everyone else who volunteers to assist new players into the game. Fly safe. o7
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.09.21 13:31:00 -
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The Phoenix Mercenaries
Nanotardz
are currently at war with Ivy League.
Ivy League does a lot of good for the Eve community.
If anyone wants to defend the conduct of the two groups currently at war with them go ahead.
The Phoenix Mercenaries I have some experience with and they would be better off joining Ivy League rather than fighting them.
Nanotardz I have no idea about, but the name prolly says it all.
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.21 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: acompton
Why not propose "open season" the first week of every month and ask the hostiles to push their decs into that specific week.
That way they get their jollies, you get some (limited) combat experience for the newer pilots and you don't lose your ability to recruit for the other 3 weeks.
If they violate this proposal just post it here and all of the alliances that are bored can war dec the violators to try and help enforce it...
There really isn't any reason for them to NOT to go along with this unless they are just sheer asshats (yes this is possible)
Good Luck Eve Uni.
I really like this idea, TBH. If they feel that they're getting their jollies out of shooting noobs, just explain that there won't be any noobs to shoot if they war-dec you all the time.
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Dianaballick
Band of Developers
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Posted - 2007.09.21 14:08:00 -
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Eve U has complained more about the game than any other collection of players.
We are training people to complain about PVP!
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.21 14:08:00 -
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Because there's always some asshat and/or group of asshats that has to play the spoiler. If the local beach said "No Swimming on Tuesdays", they'd have their trunks and cap on and be out doing laps at 12:01 AM Tuesday just to be jerks.
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2007.09.21 14:57:00 -
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the only thing funnier than the e-rage on display here, lol sanctimonious bob, is the complete illiteracy of people asking "whodunit?" when I posted that on the first page immediately after explaining how to find out
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Kozak
Caldari
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.09.21 15:27:00 -
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Actually, Eve-U is doing a great service to the community, not only training new players, but also showing the community the lame wannabe merc corps out there that nobody takes seriously.
If you want to know if you should hire a merc corp, check if they war decked Eve-U, If they did, they probably won't be worth the ISK.
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Karbowiak
Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.21 15:29:00 -
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How sad and pathetic does a corp/alliance have to be to wardec EVE-Uni ?..
I mean come on, everything they do is for all of our benefit. They teach new targets how to be in EVE.
Dont we all want more targets to shoot? i for sure do. So quit going after EVE-Uni - go after someone who can fight you instead.
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Nlewis
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.21 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: The Hooch
not even we dec Eve-Uni.
Yeah and that is saying a lot.
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Neena Valdi
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.21 15:59:00 -
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While I agree that such war dec is a lame action, I honestly dont understand why you guys from Ivy League worry about it? I mean, having real war decs is a great class for your members. It will teach to live in a hostile environment, use scouts, watch local, actual pvp etc-etc. Maybe it is harsh, but it is also effective. Don't you agree?
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Zaphod Jones
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.09.21 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: Zaphod Jones on 21/09/2007 16:28:20
Name and shame time
Horrid Henry, Voldemort, Robby Rotten & Dnck Dastardly all working together wouldn't stoop so low as to war dec E-Uni, this hasn't stopped :
The Phoenix Mercenaries
Nanotardz
edited to bypass silly filter
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Tenebrious
Quantum Technologies
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Posted - 2007.09.21 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Neena Valdi
While I agree that such war dec is a lame action, I honestly dont understand why you guys from Ivy League worry about it? I mean, having real war decs is a great class for your members. It will teach to live in a hostile environment, use scouts, watch local, actual pvp etc-etc. Maybe it is harsh, but it is also effective. Don't you agree?
Nobody is saying otherwise. The problem is they have had back to back wars lately and operations start getting clogged up.
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Nahnil
Nanotardz
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Posted - 2007.09.21 17:21:00 -
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Not doubting OP's honest intentions, I can only say LOL at the joke this thread evolved into. All the internet morality spilled all over the place is really an insult to reason world-wide.
One statement however stood up from the mass of others thanks to it's intelligence and brilliancy:
Originally by: Omega Man
Nanotardz I have no idea about, but the name prolly says it all.
How confused would you be if you saw a dog called Duke? 
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