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Posted - 2007.09.22 04:37:00 -
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Ok, quick question, if I have the same buy order price as another person who gets the item when someone sells it? Example, I have a buy order set up in station A with a range of 5 jumps for 2,000 isk. Another trader has a buy order price in station A but its a region wide buy order. Will he get all the items sold because he has a higher range?
I know I could do the .01 isk battle with him, but I am only looking to get things close by, I do not want to buy region wide.
Any suggestions?
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FastLearner
Fury Holdings
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.22 04:42:00 -
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Not sure if it works exactly the same as the example you asked about, but if two people place buy orders at same price in a station then the one who placed the order at that price first gets all the goods (until his buy order's fulfilled). I'd assume the same works if the orders were placed at different stations - but can't confirm it with 100% certainty.
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shags
CyberDyne Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.22 04:52:00 -
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Edited by: shags on 22/09/2007 04:54:18
As far as i can tell when you place a buy order at the same exact price as someone else's the decimals in your order get changed so that yours is lower/higher (depending if its a sell or buy order) then the first persons order.
So if a buy order exists for 203.43 isk and you put one up for the same price yours gets changed to 203.4299. then the client rounds the decimal off to make it appear that both orders are for the same price, but the first order will always buy the goods.
you have to compete on the .01 isk level or you will never get your orders filled until the others have been first, no matter what the range.
Eve adjusts the decimals of orders for other reasons but im not exactly sure why. i notice it a lot when i goto modify my orders.
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Nummb
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Posted - 2007.09.22 04:56:00 -
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Alright, thanks for the quick replies. I had placed my order first and actually had this particular item cornered for about the last five days. I have made many a million and it has become quite the cash cow for me. I still have plenty of margin to raise the rate it's just a chore because I would need to actually fly back to the station to do so. I know, a trader without any skills, but hey I am training for something else atm.
Anyways, thanks again.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.09.22 06:36:00 -
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 Originally by: shags
Edited by: shags on 22/09/2007 04:54:18
As far as i can tell when you place a buy order at the same exact price as someone else's the decimals in your order get changed so that yours is lower/higher (depending if its a sell or buy order) then the first persons order.
So if a buy order exists for 203.43 isk and you put one up for the same price yours gets changed to 203.4299. then the client rounds the decimal off to make it appear that both orders are for the same price, but the first order will always buy the goods.
you have to compete on the .01 isk level or you will never get your orders filled until the others have been first, no matter what the range.
Eve adjusts the decimals of orders for other reasons but im not exactly sure why. i notice it a lot when i goto modify my orders.
As far as I know this has never happened to me. I've seen multiple orders with identical prices before and I've checked which would get filled by selling to em. It usually is the first one posted, but I've never noticed the rounding thing.
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Galgorth
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Posted - 2007.09.22 09:37:00 -
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In an unusual event, Shadarle is half-right.
For ANY orders with the same price (buy or sell) the order which was posted earliest will sell first. A lot of traders use exact price matching as a sign of 'peace' to end a .01 undercut war. They use it as a way of communicating that the other trader can offload his goods first.
In your example, if a seller sold his goods within 5 jumps of the station, and your order is posted earliest, your buy order will be filled BEFORE the other guy's buy order. If a seller sold his goods greater than 5 jumps away from the station, his order will fill regardless of whether yours was posted first or not.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.09.22 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Galgorth
In an unusual event, Shadarle is half-right.
For ANY orders with the same price (buy or sell) the order which was posted earliest will sell first. A lot of traders use exact price matching as a sign of 'peace' to end a .01 undercut war. They use it as a way of communicating that the other trader can offload his goods first.
In your example, if a seller sold his goods within 5 jumps of the station, and your order is posted earliest, your buy order will be filled BEFORE the other guy's buy order. If a seller sold his goods greater than 5 jumps away from the station, his order will fill regardless of whether yours was posted first or not.
Awww, self-admitted scammer is still mad. Such a shame.
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shags
CyberDyne Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.22 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
Originally by: shags
Edited by: shags on 22/09/2007 04:54:18
As far as i can tell when you place a buy order at the same exact price as someone else's the decimals in your order get changed so that yours is lower/higher (depending if its a sell or buy order) then the first persons order.
So if a buy order exists for 203.43 isk and you put one up for the same price yours gets changed to 203.4299. then the client rounds the decimal off to make it appear that both orders are for the same price, but the first order will always buy the goods.
you have to compete on the .01 isk level or you will never get your orders filled until the others have been first, no matter what the range.
Eve adjusts the decimals of orders for other reasons but im not exactly sure why. i notice it a lot when i goto modify my orders.
As far as I know this has never happened to me. I've seen multiple orders with identical prices before and I've checked which would get filled by selling to em. It usually is the first one posted, but I've never noticed the rounding thing.
I see my orders have been changed by .0001 isk all the time when i goto modify them. im sure its not just me.
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Treelox
Amarr
Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2007.09.22 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: shags
I see my orders have been changed by .0001 isk all the time when i goto modify them. im sure its not just me.
never seen this, ever
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Dr Slurm
General Commodities
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Posted - 2007.09.22 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: shags
Originally by: Shadarle
Originally by: shags
Edited by: shags on 22/09/2007 04:54:18
As far as i can tell when you place a buy order at the same exact price as someone else's the decimals in your order get changed so that yours is lower/higher (depending if its a sell or buy order) then the first persons order.
So if a buy order exists for 203.43 isk and you put one up for the same price yours gets changed to 203.4299. then the client rounds the decimal off to make it appear that both orders are for the same price, but the first order will always buy the goods.
you have to compete on the .01 isk level or you will never get your orders filled until the others have been first, no matter what the range.
Eve adjusts the decimals of orders for other reasons but im not exactly sure why. i notice it a lot when i goto modify my orders.
As far as I know this has never happened to me. I've seen multiple orders with identical prices before and I've checked which would get filled by selling to em. It usually is the first one posted, but I've never noticed the rounding thing.
I see my orders have been changed by .0001 isk all the time when i goto modify them. im sure its not just me.
I've noticed this before. Kind of wondered what was the cause of it. Now I know.
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Robacz
Essence Trade
Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.09.22 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Slurm
I've noticed this before. Kind of wondered what was the cause of it. Now I know.
Yes it happens to me too, but I never connected it to identical price of two orders.
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
Staner Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.22 23:12:00 -
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Edited by: Wyke Mossari on 22/09/2007 23:12:57
Originally by: shags
I see my orders have been changed by .0001 isk all the time when i goto modify them. im sure its not just me.
Rounding errors should be expected with a computer representation of floating point numbers.
Read more Floating_point#Accuracy_problems
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