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CONDUCT
A. Specifically Restricted Conduct
Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game:

1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.
2. You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played.
3. You may not use macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.
4. You may not use the Software, or any information accessible through the System, to bypass the System login architecture or create or provide any other means through which the System may be accessed and/or the Game may be played by others, as, for example, through server emulators.
5. You may not engage in any conduct that results in an Account containing items, objects, currency, character attributes, rank, or status that are inappropriate for the level or rank of the character contained in the Account, including without limitation arranging, making or accepting transfers of items to a character without adequate consideration, thereby augmenting or aggregating items in an Account and increasing its value for an Account sale.

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Originally by: Cedric Diggory

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CONDUCT
A. Specifically Restricted Conduct
Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game:

1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.
2. You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played.
3. You may not use macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.
4. You may not use the Software, or any information accessible through the System, to bypass the System login architecture or create or provide any other means through which the System may be accessed and/or the Game may be played by others, as, for example, through server emulators.
5. You may not engage in any conduct that results in an Account containing items, objects, currency, character attributes, rank, or status that are inappropriate for the level or rank of the character contained in the Account, including without limitation arranging, making or accepting transfers of items to a character without adequate consideration, thereby augmenting or aggregating items in an Account and increasing its value for an Account sale.

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I hope this doesn't turn around and bite you in the ass.

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Also GG to ccp if they can ever prove someone is using a keybind macro...

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Originally by: Cedric Diggory

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Edited by: Cedric Diggory on 22/09/2007 20:00:14
It's a can of worms, and the EULA is pretty explicit. I could use a macro program to bind F1-F8 to another single unused key on my generic keyboard, and if discovered I believe I would be hit with the ban stick. Why should this be any different for someone who can afford a more expensive keyboard than I?

Surely in the interest of fairness, it should be one rule for all? Macro software is not allowed, and if I understand correctly you use software to setup the binds on your swish keyboards...

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Originally by: Cedric Diggory

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A macro is a macro is a macro: End of story. It's implicitly unfair not that someone is willing to spend extra money on a keyboard as you incorrectly surmise, but rather that using software that would allow me to perform the same function as a G15 on my regular keyboard is explicitly forbidden.

If you can't see that, go stick your head back up your ass!

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Originally by: Chong Vang

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I have no problem setting up a macro for firing all my missiles at the same time, but when I try to make a macro for mid slots, it activates the high slots.

Is there a trick to make macro's for mid or low slots?

The way I am during it is pressing the "MR" button, then pressing the "G#" key I want, lets say G17. Then I press and hold "Left Alt" and then press "F2" and then "F3" and then let go of "Left Alt" and then press the "MR" button to stop recording. But then when I test it, it acts as if I only pressed F2 and F3.

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Originally by: Xanidra

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Edited by: Xanidra on 22/09/2007 20:58:39

so one question ccp

how many key strokes are you allowed to record?

1
2
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8
16
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16384.

1. pressing f1 to f8 is = 8 key strokes.
2. undock, warp to belt, lock, mine, dock at station = 5 mouse clicks.

now all i need is homer simpsons noding bird and im set to mine for ever.
but hey as its g15 keyboard its allowed \o/
(erm does the g15 record mouse clicks too)

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Originally by: Cedric Diggory

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Why should this be any different for someone who can afford a more expensive keyboard than I?

................................on your swish keyboards...

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Next you will be saying that games should all have sub par graphics because its not fair some users have swish machines

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Stay at school, Drink your milk and dont do drugs then you can have fancy stuff to, trust me it will all work out.

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Originally by: Xanidra

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Edited by: Xanidra on 22/09/2007 20:58:39
1. pressing f1 to f8 is = 8 key strokes.
2. undock, warp to belt, lock, mine, dock at station = 5 mouse clicks.

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Originally by: Cedric Diggory

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Edited by: Cedric Diggory on 22/09/2007 20:00:14
It's a can of worms, and the EULA is pretty explicit. I could use a macro program to bind F1-F8 to another single unused key on my generic keyboard, and if discovered I believe I would be hit with the ban stick. Why should this be any different for someone who can afford a more expensive keyboard than I?

Surely in the interest of fairness, it should be one rule for all? Macro software is not allowed, and if I understand correctly you use software to setup the binds on your swish keyboards...

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Originally by: Banana Torres

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Gurls are overrated, they nick your money and hurt your ears. Just so you can have limited access to their soft and squishy bits.

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Why should people be penalised if they have the cash for a keyboard which has been declared legit by CCP?

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Originally by: Cedric Diggory

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Why should people be penalised if they have the cash for a keyboard which has been declared legit by CCP?

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They shouldn't, but the question remains why should people be penalised for using software to do the same thing, such as AutoHotkey?

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Originally by: Cedric Diggory

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Why should people be penalised if they have the cash for a keyboard which has been declared legit by CCP?

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They shouldn't, but the question remains why should people be penalised for using software to do the same thing, such as AutoHotkey?

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Originally by: Some Caldari

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I have to ask what possible gain do you get from titting F1-8 a second faster the the next guy? I doubt that even in the closest and most evenly matched fight there'd be any bonus what so ever.

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Originally by: Nox9407

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I cant say I read the thread, but to fix the problem the OP was having you need to:

Open the Keyboard Profiler
Settings > Profiler...
at the bottom of that window check "Record delays during quick macro creation"

and that'll fix the problem. Just make sure that you do the alt keys like "Alt down, F1 down, F1 up...F8 Down, F8 Up, Alt up" and the same for any ctrl ones you have.

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Originally by: Chong Vang

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I have no problem setting up a macro for firing all my missiles at the same time, but when I try to make a macro for mid slots, it activates the high slots.

Is there a trick to make macro's for mid or low slots?

The way I am during it is pressing the "MR" button, then pressing the "G#" key I want, lets say G17. Then I press and hold "Left Alt" and then press "F2" and then "F3" and then let go of "Left Alt" and then press the "MR" button to stop recording. But then when I test it, it acts as if I only pressed F2 and F3.

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Originally by: Trak Cranker

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Originally by: Xanidra

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Edited by: Xanidra on 22/09/2007 20:58:39
1. pressing f1 to f8 is = 8 key strokes.
2. undock, warp to belt, lock, mine, dock at station = 5 mouse clicks.

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Am I the only one that have the reading ability to see the difference between "key strokes" and "mouse clicks"?
(the latter one also includes mouse movement, btw)

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Originally by: Hilabana

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Originally by: Chong Vang

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I have no problem setting up a macro for firing all my missiles at the same time, but when I try to make a macro for mid slots, it activates the high slots.

Is there a trick to make macro's for mid or low slots?

The way I am during it is pressing the "MR" button, then pressing the "G#" key I want, lets say G17. Then I press and hold "Left Alt" and then press "F2" and then "F3" and then let go of "Left Alt" and then press the "MR" button to stop recording. But then when I test it, it acts as if I only pressed F2 and F3.

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another person with the $ to buy a nice keyboard to enhance his gaming pleasure.i bet he has a real nice mouse and a bigger monitor than me as well.

I hope you get pop and podded fast !

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Originally by: Bishman82

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It's the same with any game, flight sim pilots get an advantage from using joysticks, drivers-wheels/pedals, FPS-high quality mouse and games like eve benefit from keyboards that can remember key sequences. The g15 is just worth it for the screen when using ventrilo

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Originally by: Hilabana

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Originally by: Chong Vang

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I have no problem setting up a macro for firing all my missiles at the same time, but when I try to make a macro for mid slots, it activates the high slots.

Is there a trick to make macro's for mid or low slots?

The way I am during it is pressing the "MR" button, then pressing the "G#" key I want, lets say G17. Then I press and hold "Left Alt" and then press "F2" and then "F3" and then let go of "Left Alt" and then press the "MR" button to stop recording. But then when I test it, it acts as if I only pressed F2 and F3.

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Another Idiot that can not play the game as it was made and that need Macro's to do any thing!
I hope you get pop and podded fast !

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