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Kzool	Posted - 2007.09.24 13:44:00 - [1] Edited by: Kzool on 24/09/2007 13:55:15 Donno, where to post this, but I'll do it here. Just want to share a story, which happened to me this weekend. Well, I "live" in Delve with my 3 alts (not under BoB protection). I use Aeon as mobile station, arma as snipping farming BS and falcon/cov ops as guard/scout. I farm NPC. So does group of china guys with ravens, which live same area and hide in cloaks everytime I am in same local. Usually they are peaceful, like any other carebears around, but sometimes, like once per week they become pvp active and tend to make gangs with 3+ ravens and "camp" a gate. So, this weekend was the time they become aggresive. I liked that, cos i wanted to test my aeon in fight situation, just fitted it properly for that goal. So, I made my close range passive tanked arma active and jumped to 100km to gate for bait purpose. There were only 3 china ships near. It's heavily tanked phoon and 2 ravens in their "gank" group. And here was my 1st mistake. My plan was to use that arma as bait, while jamm all those ravens and phoon with falcon from 100km away and try to kill them only by using BS, cynoing aeon in by vigil only if they highly grow in numbers in local. But all went wrong, 1st of all - falcon fitted with caldari racial jammers cant jamm them all, specially phoon (this phoon was unplanned addition to their usual gang :) ), 2nd - i messed up in my 4 eve-windows a lil, not having much experience in 3-4 alt pvping. So, i understand i am loosing my BS and i desided to bring my aeon early. Too bad, as soon as my aeon appear in remote repair range - it was too late, arma was on structure and died. Tho, i manage to scramble phoon and kill it with my 22 fighters in like 10 seconds. And from this point main fun began. Those 2 ravens was too far to scramble them (i dont have officer's disruptor yet), so they rewarped to 70km range and start shooting my mothership, killing cyno vigil same time. At that point local became to grow rapidly, as always, when any of chineese guy under attack. Few seconds later 5-6 ravens started to shoot my aeon from 70km distance. Well, the situation was a bit unusual and interesting. From one point of view i could leave battlefield any moment, not having any interdiction disturbance from china side, but I was dissapointed from loosing BS and wanted revenge. So, i started to send my fighters on them... and failed. Ofc they warp out as soon as they saw aggression and 1st damage from fighters was applyed, they warp to safespot and use cloak there. I had to use help of my falcon, which failed its job miserably early. I knew 50% of china ppl in region have 1 wcs, so, I had to fit my falcon with 7500m scrambler and 6 caldari jammers, along with 1600mm plate. But i couldnt jamm and passive tank them all. Local still keep growing and more ravens jumping system from entire region. So, I had to made some ravens flee before my falcon can do it's scramble work. Surprisingly it was easy. Rapidly changing targets for fighters and ordering them to back to orbit after it made 3-4 ravens retreat from batlefield. While they rewarp, i could manage to decloak falcon and scramble one of the ravens and jamm 2-3 others. Scrambled raven died in seconds after fighters start to shoot him. Tho, I had to warp to remote repair range to aeon after each attempt, not having repairer installed on recon. So it wasnt fast. That method allowed me to kill 3 or 4 ravens, but local still keep growing and I saw new chineese come from like 10 jumps away, where I spot them the same day. So, like 6-8 ravens constantly shoot my aeon anyway, despite of their looses. I was proud of my tank, tho. My shields was gone long before, but even with 1 repper they cant manage to break my armor past than 10%.
Kzool	Posted - 2007.09.24 13:45:00 - [2] Edited by: Kzool on 24/09/2007 13:48:55 I started to notice they become to adapt my tactic. Once or twice they managed to warp out before I could lock them with falcon. They was alligned to safespot and reacted fast enough. So, i desided to use my snipping arma and that was my 2nd mistake for that day. The plan was to keep arma near aeon, keeping remote repping it constantly. How miserable it failed! Ofc chineeses change target for arma and damage was immense! Arma died rather quickly, despite on 1 capital remote repairer :\ That was 2nd BS I lost. Ok, I quickly checked my ship maintance bay and notice heavily tanked vengeance (ammar assault frig) with 2 small repairers installed. I thought "Why not?" and boarded it. And things which happened later amazed me! That small assault managed to tank 5-6 ravens at once! Well, i knew it can tank well torpedo-ravens, cos i tested it before, but i didnt think it can tank 5-6 of them! So, i just approach-scramble-kill every near raven in it and it was freaky simple. Some of them managed to flee, cos of 1 wcs, but many died. 1 hour battle finished. All remnants of china forces fled from battlefield, leaving me with 10 kill mails (1 phoon and 9 ravens) and shuddering hands. :)
wazzaap	Posted - 2007.09.24 13:59:00 - [3] O.o holy **** good job
Stakhanov Katana's Edge	Posted - 2007.09.24 14:08:00 - [4] Fun story. Looks like they didn't know what an Aeon was , probably mistook it for a carrier Ace job. Originally by: F'nog One does not simply log into Jita.
Soulita Gallente Inner Core	Posted - 2007.09.24 14:11:00 - [5] good job
Nocturnal Avenger The Ankou The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.09.24 14:19:00 - [6] Weird story. You are using an aeon while appearing very inexperienced? How much did you pay on Ebay? - Carebear Pirate -
Saint Luka The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.24 14:21:00 - [7] Edited by: Saint Luka on 24/09/2007 14:22:11 Death to the sweatshop weilding chins! Edit: You were using 4 accounts, 1 Cyno, 1 BS, 1 MS, 1 Falcon. Considering you cyno'd into the system wtf would you of done if those local spikes were the people who actually inhabit delve. -
Janus Duo Gallente Psilocybin and Wine	Posted - 2007.09.24 14:21:00 - [8] Very very nice. It's pretty tricky PvPing with 2 or more characters at once, especially when you don't have a separate monitor for each of them, and farmers are hard to lock down. The ones from my neck of the woods always have 2-3 WCS on. Next time maybe a 'dictor alt will net you more kills, get a warp in on the blob, warp in, drop probe, and MWD away and cloak/warp. Proceed to melt em all with the fighter blob before they can warp out. You could even speedtank em with the dictor and keep bubbling em as they try to get out of the original bubble. This way you'd only need 2 characters (aside from your emergency cyno alt) at once.
Vrizuh Eve Defence Force Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.09.24 15:52:00 - [9] thats insane. I haven't tried 2 boxing pvp since fighting bob. Need focus. I use 2nd screen/account just so I can have extra chat windows open (intel etc). Also, you're lucky they fight back. The IAC drones in our space just cloak, or log. That must be so much fun. To have a tonne of lame hostiles nearby. You should get a friend. An arazu or something. Thatd be such a slaughter.
Kzool	Posted - 2007.09.24 16:15:00 - [10] Edited by: Kzool on 24/09/2007 16:23:52 Edited by: Kzool on 24/09/2007 16:16:20 Thx all :) Btw, i dont use ebay at any context. I farmed delve hard to get some coins, also was lucky in bpo lottery, got PDS t2 BPO, sold for 30b or so. It's not hard to get 1-2b per week just killing NPC... And btw, i talked those chineese guys eary and they told they killed thanatos with 5 ravens before. PS. I have 2 monitors, it helps alot :)

Nazdarovie Minmatar Macabre Votum INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.09.24 16:26:00 - [11] either there lying or the thanatos had no tank or reppers lol
Vorok Silver Aria	Posted - 2007.09.24 17:33:00 - [12] That's just awesome. It must have been some fight! I can only imagine the atmosphere in that sweat shop during and after. So... any good loot?
ollobrains Mission Invasion Squad	Posted - 2007.09.24 19:31:00 - [13] very nice post Group mission invasions
iiOs Blood Corsair's The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.09.24 19:41:00 - [14] Originally by: Kzool Edited by: Kzool on 24/09/2007 16:23:52 Edited by: Kzool on 24/09/2007 16:16:20 Thx all :) Btw, i dont use ebay at any context. I farmed delve hard to get some coins, also was lucky in bpo lottery, got PDS t2 BPO, sold for 30b or so. It's not hard to get 1-2b per week just killing NPC... And btw, i talked those chineese guys eary and they told they killed thanatos with 5 ravens before. PS. I have 2 monitors, it helps alot :) wow, since when do macros speak...thats new kind of t2 macroS! ---------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- BB
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.09.24 19:52:00 - [15] Originally by: iiOs Originally by: Kzool Edited by: Kzool on 24/09/2007 16:23:52 Edited by: Kzool on 24/09/2007 16:16:20 Thx all :) Btw, i dont use ebay at any context. I farmed delve hard to get some coins, also was lucky in bpo lottery, got PDS t2 BPO, sold for 30b or so. It's not hard to get 1-2b per week just killing NPC... And btw, i talked those chineese guys eary and they told they killed thanatos with 5 ravens before. PS. I have 2 monitors, it helps alot :) wow, since when do macros speak...thats new kind of t2 macroS! Not all farmers are macro's, but still funny _______________________________________________
Snackerlfang	Posted - 2007.09.24 20:05:00 - [16] Excellent story. Ignore those that are knocking you. They are just sore as you can spell better than they can, despite english not being your primary language.
Roast Bifcurtains	Posted - 2007.09.24 21:02:00 - [17] It's amazing how much racism the mods allow on this forum. Of course, it's only white people in Iceland so they probably don't have a clue that you're even being racist by assuming that a) All Asians are Chinese. (Does the OP say how he knows that they're Chinese? Maybe they're Korean?) b) All Chinese eve players are sweatshop workers. This thread is dripping with bigotry. You don't see people making threads talking about how they attacked a group of Germans or British or Americans. ================================================ Endless Love
Vorok Silver Aria	Posted - 2007.09.24 22:01:00 - [18] Edited by: Vorok on 24/09/2007 22:03:20 Originally by: Roast Bifcurtains This thread is dripping with bigotry. You don't see people making threads talking about how they attacked a group of Germans or British or Americans. You don't have to be a genius to recognize Chinese sweatshop farmers, as there are rather obvious signs which you can observe. It's not racism. He clearly fought a large group of sweatshop farmers who were probably all in the same room. Nobody said that all Chinese players are sweatshop workers, but you cannot deny that those organized sweat shops are a huge player in the isk-for-cash market. Regardless of who he killed, this was pretty awesome. The fact that he obviously walloped some sweatshop farmers is just icing. I don't know why some people seem to jump to the defense of isk sellers. Tends to make you look like a client.
Illistar DeathWing	Posted - 2007.09.24 22:54:00 - [19] Originally by: Roast Bifcurtains It's amazing how much racism the mods allow on this forum. Of course, it's only white people in Iceland so they probably don't have a clue that you're even being racist by assuming that a) All Asians are Chinese. (Does the OP say how he knows that they're Chinese? Maybe they're Korean?) b) All Chinese eve players are sweatshop workers. This thread is dripping with bigotry. You don't see people making threads talking about how they attacked a group of Germans or British or Americans. Seems to me that you're the one who's a bit bigot, I mean I don't recall the op saying they were selling isk for money, or sweatshops, only that they were Chinese and farmed isk (which is legal, the op does it him self by ratting) So calm down and stop looking for racism where it's not.
Mr Cleann	Posted - 2007.09.24 23:34:00 - [20] Originally by: Illistar DeathWing Originally by: Roast Bifcurtains It's amazing how much racism the mods allow on this forum. Of course, it's only white people in Iceland so they probably don't have a clue that you're even being racist by assuming that a) All Asians are Chinese. (Does the OP say how he knows that they're Chinese? Maybe they're Korean?) b) All Chinese eve players are sweatshop workers. This thread is dripping with bigotry. You don't see people making threads talking about how they attacked a group of Germans or British or Americans. Seems to me that you're the one who's a bit bigot, I mean I don't recall the op saying they were selling isk for money, or sweatshops, only that they were Chinese and farmed isk (which is legal, the op does it him self by ratting) So calm down and stop looking for racism where it's not. Yeah no kidding.

Roast Bifcurtains	Posted - 2007.09.24 23:57:00 - [21] Originally by: Mr Cleann Originally by: Illistar DeathWing Originally by: Roast Bifcurtains It's amazing how much racism the mods allow on this forum. Of course, it's only white people in Iceland so they probably don't have a clue that you're even being racist by assuming that a) All Asians are Chinese. (Does the OP say how he knows that they're Chinese? Maybe they're Korean?) b) All Chinese eve players are sweatshop workers. This thread is dripping with bigotry. You don't see people making threads talking about how they attacked a group of Germans or British or Americans. Seems to me that you're the one who's a bit bigot, I mean I don't recall the op saying they were selling isk for money, or sweatshops, only that they were Chinese and farmed isk (which is legal, the op does it him self by ratting) So calm down and stop looking for racism where it's not. Yeah no kidding. Spoken like people who've never been discriminated against. "This *thread* is dripping with bigotry." (highlighted for you) I've noticed that in genereal people on these forums generally say that they earn isk but the Chinese players farm isk. You may not have noticed this trend because you are biased in a particular direction. I'm biased in the other direction. I wouldn't expect you to understand; you're probably the majority race in whatever nation you live in. I'm not. So I get kind sick of the prejudice. ================================================ Endless Love
Illistar DeathWing	Posted - 2007.09.25 00:09:00 - [22] Edited by: Illistar DeathWing on 25/09/2007 00:09:06 Originally by: Roast Bifcurtains Originally by: Mr Cleann Originally by: Illistar DeathWing Originally by: Roast Bifcurtains It's amazing how much racism the mods allow on this forum. Of course, it's only white people in Iceland so they probably don't have a clue that you're even being racist by assuming that a) All Asians are Chinese. (Does the OP say how he knows that they're Chinese? Maybe they're Korean?) b) All Chinese eve players are sweatshop workers. This thread is dripping with bigotry. You don't see people making threads talking about how they attacked a group of Germans or British or Americans. Seems to me that you're the one who's a bit bigot, I mean I don't recall the op saying they were selling isk for money, or sweatshops, only that they were Chinese and farmed isk (which is legal, the op does it him self by ratting) So calm down and stop looking for racism where it's not. Yeah no kidding. Spoken like people who've never been discriminated against. "This *thread* is dripping with bigotry." (highlighted for you) I've noticed that in genereal people on these forums generally say that they earn isk but the Chinese players farm isk. You may not have noticed this trend because you are biased in a particular direction. I'm biased in the other direction. I wouldn't expect you to understand; you're probably the majority race in whatever nation you live in. I'm not. So I get kind sick of the prejudice. No actually I am a minority, I do get discriminated against every now and then as well. However you are seriously over-reacting. He just mentioned that the players he met in local that night usually farmed isk in that system, and they happen to be Chinese. The rest of the people might have had some wrong remarks, but seriously don't crap on the op, he has no control over what other people post.
MirrorGod Heretic Army Fang Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.25 05:03:00 - [23] Originally by: Illistar DeathWing Edited by: Illistar DeathWing on 25/09/2007 00:09:06 Originally by: Roast Bifcurtains Originally by: Mr Cleann Originally by: Illistar DeathWing Originally by: Roast Bifcurtains It's amazing how much racism the mods allow on this forum. Of course, it's only white people in Iceland so they probably don't have a clue that you're even being racist by assuming that a) All Asians are Chinese. (Does the OP say how he knows that they're Chinese? Maybe they're Korean?) b) All Chinese eve players are sweatshop workers. This thread is dripping with bigotry. You don't see people making threads talking about how they attacked a group of Germans or British or Americans. Seems to me that you're the one who's a bit bigot, I mean I don't recall the op saying they were selling isk for money, or sweatshops, only that they were Chinese and farmed isk (which is legal, the op does it him self by ratting) So calm down and stop looking for racism where it's not. Yeah no kidding. Spoken like people who've never been discriminated against. "This *thread* is dripping with bigotry." (highlighted for you) I've noticed that in genereal people on these forums generally say that they earn isk but the Chinese players farm isk. You may not have noticed this trend because you are biased in a particular direction. I'm biased in the other direction. I wouldn't expect you to understand; you're probably the majority race in whatever nation you live in. I'm not. So I get kind sick of the prejudice. No actually I am a minority, I do get discriminated against every now and then as well. However you are seriously over-reacting. He just mentioned that the players he met in local that night usually farmed isk in that system, and they happen to be Chinese. The rest of the people might have had some wrong remarks, but seriously don't crap on the op, he has no control over what other people post. /signed
Vestia Dirty Girls Holding	Posted - 2007.09.25 05:49:00 - [24] Originally by: Roast Bifcurtains You don't see people making threads talking about how they attacked a group of Germans or British or Americans. Do Russians, French, and goons count? See that all the time.
Jane Vladmir Gallente Applied Eugenics Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.09.25 08:23:00 - [25] Originally by: Roast Bifcurtains It's amazing how much racism the mods allow on this forum. Of course, it's only white people in Iceland so they probably don't have a clue that you're even being racist by assuming that a) All Asians are Chinese. (Does the OP say how he knows that they're Chinese? Maybe they're Korean?) b) All Chinese eve players are sweatshop workers. This thread is dripping with bigotry. You don't see people making threads talking about how they attacked a group of Germans or British or Americans. Since when did racism become a non-funny serious threat to the internet?
Strife Phoenix Acerbus Vindictum	Posted - 2007.09.25 08:28:00 - [26] Originally by: Snackerlfang Excellent story. Ignore those that are knocking you. They are just sore as you can spell better than they can, despite english not being your primary language. Yes, and the fact you manage to live on your own in hostile surroundings AND fly an Aeon.. Lots of jelousy here :) ACERBUS-VINDICTUM - Revelare Pecunia!
flashfresh Independent Pilots	Posted - 2007.09.25 08:36:00 - [27] Nice post. Well done for using so many accounts. I can barely focus with one account let alone four! F ôMe, I'm dishonest, and you can always trust a dishonest man to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you have to watch out for.'ö http://i-pirate.blogspot.com
Strife Phoenix Acerbus Vindictum	Posted - 2007.09.25 08:46:00 - [28] Originally by: Roast Bifcurtains It's amazing how much racism the mods allow on this forum. Of course, it's only white people in Iceland so they probably don't have a clue that you're even being racist by assuming that You are not a racist for assuming people originate from one region of the world, in fact, I did not see one shred of racism in the OPs post. I suggest you start looking the words up in a dictionary before you use them. And by stating there are only white people in Iceland you only managed to prove how ignorant and prejudiced you are yourself. Originally by: Roast Bifcurtains a) All Asians are Chinese. (Does the OP say how he knows that they're Chinese? Maybe they're Korean?) Not all but.. a wild guess, probably around 75% of all asians are infact chinese (1/5 of the worlds total population). Originally by: Roast Bifcurtains b) All Chinese eve players are sweatshop workers. Not all of them obviously, but unfortunately they who are destroy the reputation of the legit players and people are quick to jump conclusions. Originally by: Roast Bifcurtains This thread is dripping with bigotry. You don't see people making threads talking about how they attacked a group of Germans or British or Americans. We probably would if that happened, only that it is somewhat hard to tell what countries people originate from unless they all speak the same language or put the flag of their country in their bios. Another thing, the OP actually wrote that he farmed for isk himself in his original post. And no I do not "belong" to the majority in the country I live in either. ACERBUS-VINDICTUM - Revelare Pecunia!
Kayna Eelai	Posted - 2007.09.25 09:24:00 - [29] Edited by: Kayna Eelai on 25/09/2007 09:24:37 Originally by: Kzool So does group of china guys with ravens and you know they are chinese because of... what exactly? apart from that, who gives a flying ** if they're a chinese? there mere fact of mentioning their nationality in that way could be misunderstood as racism allready. why not say "X guys from Y corp in Z ship" instead of mentioning their "supposed" race? that's how you would have posted if they were from UK or whatever, so why do they have to be different? Quote: Tho, i manage to scramble phoon and kill it with my 22 fighters in like 10 seconds. so, u have skills and modules to manage 22 drones (which i beleieve is the maximum u can control?) but all your post smells overally pretty noobish like some1 else mentioned... ebay any1? and dont come with the "i won BPO lottery" crap, coz ISK != SKILLS... for the amount of skills your must character have, you sound pretty noobish. nothing to do with ISK and finally: Quote:** I "live" in Delve with my 3 alts u sound like you have too much time and real life cash (4 accounts) on your hands... which fits only perfectly into an ebayers profile.
Tarmiriel ASSASSIN SYNDICATE	Posted - 2007.09.25 10:00:00 - [30] Originally by: Roast Bifcurtains It's amazing how much racism the mods allow on this forum. Of course, it's only white people in Iceland so they probably don't have a clue that you're even being racist by assuming that a) All Asians are Chinese. (Does the OP say how he knows that they're Chinese? Maybe they're Korean?) b) All Chinese eve players are sweatshop workers. This thread is dripping with bigotry. You don't see people making threads talking about how they attacked a group of Germans or British or Americans. If your gonna rant and rave about others........learn the definitions of the words your using!!!! bigotry......that can well be happening in this thread racism.......chinese is NOT A RACE...not happening here a nationality....yes an ethnic group.....yes a race..........NO amazing how folks see something on the tv, or in the newspaper, and then spout it out their mouths like their suddenly intelligent



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