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        |  Darius III
 Interstellar eXodus
 BricK sQuAD.
 
 521
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 08:59:00 -
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 I called a conference tonight with some of the luminaries from the larger incursion channels. I was glad that the people involved in the conference took their time to speak with me, and you have my thanks. I learned a little bit and also got some good pointers and the guys had awesome ideas and broad viewpoints. Hats off to BTL for a very productive and informative meeting.
 
 We were ready to stop killing the Motherships. The 'demands' made involved no ISK, no threats,and no ultimatums whatsoever. ( I did pander to get personal bribes of course!) All that was required was they participate in a group chat. Unfortunately negotiations have fallen through and TDF has caused us to continue our campaign.
 
 TDF left the talks, while BTL was willing to participate. Given that BLT was willing to talk, and TDF was not, I will be directing my gankers and griefers to focus on TDF targets when possible. While I have no issue with the players who utilize TDF to find fleets, their leadership is solely responsible for the continued 'early' termination of hisec incursions.
 
 To the players in TDF: Your leadership has failed you. They are the sole reason we will continue killing the Moms. If not for their arrogance, you would be able to shortly return to less, or even no interruption in your ability to run incursions 23/7 Had your leaders simply spent 30 minutes in a conference-this thread would have been to announce my withdrawal of support for 'illegal' fleets.
 
 Incursion runners: If you are cross-trained with ability to fly shield and armor ships, I suggest you roll with BTL when possible as we are targeting TDF whenever possible. We still have 15 + logi characters who aren't blacklisted in TDF channel and whose corp histories are not affiliated with Brick, Skunks or Lead Farmers. At some point you may be in a fleet and just not get reps. This action will be aimed at depleting the ship reimbursement fund and causing as many problems in TDF fleets as possible.
 
 To the players who are in BTL: It is a shame that TDF wouldnt talk and you are going to suffer the losses of incursions because of their transgressions. The BTL leadership represented you well and genuinely looked out for your interests. They were spot on and deserve my, and your thanks. Shame it didnt work out. We look forward to contesting the Moms soon.
 How stupid is CCP? So stupid it took them SEVEN YEARS to make a "loot all' Button.
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        |  Daisai
 Taurus Quantum Technologies
 Taurus Quantum Dynamics
 
 9
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 09:05:00 -
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 No logs or anything?
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        |  Akrasjel Lanate
 Naquatech Conglomerate
 
 516
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 09:06:00 -
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 Interesting, always thought that armor pilots have more reson than those shield tanking.
  
 Good to hear about your "success"
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        |  Kagan Storm
 Silver Snake Enterprise
 Against ALL Authorities
 
 51
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 09:07:00 -
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 Darius III wrote:I called a conference tonight with some of the luminaries from the larger incursion channels. I was glad that the people involved in the conference took their time to speak with me, and you have my thanks. I learned a little bit and also got some good pointers and the guys had awesome ideas and broad viewpoints. Hats off to BTL for a very productive and informative meeting. 
 We were ready to stop killing the Motherships. The 'demands' made involved no ISK, no threats,and no ultimatums whatsoever. ( I did pander to get personal bribes of course!) All that was required was they participate in a group chat. Unfortunately negotiations have fallen through and TDF has caused us to continue our campaign.
 
 TDF left the talks, while BTL was willing to participate. Given that BLT was willing to talk, and TDF was not, I will be directing my gankers and griefers to focus on TDF targets when possible. While I have no issue with the players who utilize TDF to find fleets, their leadership is solely responsible for the continued 'early' termination of hisec incursions.
 
 To the players in TDF: Your leadership has failed you. They are the sole reason we will continue killing the Moms. If not for their arrogance, you would be able to shortly return to less, or even no interruption in your ability to run incursions 23/7 Had your leaders simply spent 30 minutes in a conference-this thread would have been to announce my withdrawal of support for 'illegal' fleets.
 
 Incursion runners: If you are cross-trained with ability to fly shield and armor ships, I suggest you roll with BTL when possible as we are targeting TDF whenever possible. We still have 15 + logi characters who aren't blacklisted in TDF channel and whose corp histories are not affiliated with Brick, Skunks or Lead Farmers. At some point you may be in a fleet and just not get reps. This action will be aimed at depleting the ship reimbursement fund and causing as many problems in TDF fleets as possible.
 
 To the players who are in BTL: It is a shame that TDF wouldnt talk and you are going to suffer the losses of incursions because of their transgressions. The BTL leadership represented you well and genuinely looked out for your interests. They were spot on and deserve my, and your thanks. Shame it didnt work out. We look forward to contesting the Moms soon.
 
 
 They should just organize sansha militia.... in highsec you get shot by all police except Concord. All 4 militias can shoot you. But you can shoot other player on incursion grids without getting Concorded. And of course all militias anywhere. you loose sec when you shoot non militia in incursion.
 
 If you ask me thats how incursions should have been done.
 
 Problem solved... and would make your life allot easier and give you legitimate in game method of doing stuff you think is right.
 
 CCP please listen to me. Im a sociopathic narcosis egomaniac that usualy has relay good ideas.
 
 Edit for grammer... im in hospital on some realy good drugs.
  
 RP explanation: Sansha is an assh0ll and if you gonna fight for him and do his biding (perpetuate his plans) you are gonna get shot like an ash0ll.
 My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range.
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        |  Sakura Shiroi
 EWH NanoTex
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 09:45:00 -
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 Daisai wrote:No logs or anything? 
 Yea those are definately missing.
 I would even get it from "both Sides" to prevent any fiddling with them.
 
 
 No way to make a proper judgement of the situation without those.
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        |  Nanohasan
 Tribes of Concordia
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 09:47:00 -
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 Why did brick squad even start killing MOM early?
 
 we made you guys no harm so why bother us in crappy BS like this?
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        |  Lady Spank
 Genos Occidere
 HYDRA RELOADED
 
 1132
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 10:58:00 -
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 Because you are greedy leeches.
 (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â)
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        |  Darius III
 Interstellar eXodus
 BricK sQuAD.
 
 523
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 11:04:00 -
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 Nanohasan wrote:Why did brick squad even start killing MOM early?
 we made you guys no harm so why bother us in crappy BS like this?
 
 We made you no harm either. We protect INNOCENT CIVILIANS from kidnapping by the cruel and evil Sanshas to do horrific medical experiments on. Also confirming TDF forced us to destroy more motherships with their insolent tone and blatant disrespect of their 0.0 overlords.
  
 
 How stupid is CCP? So stupid it took them SEVEN YEARS to make a "loot all' Button.
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        |  Daisai
 Taurus Quantum Technologies
 Taurus Quantum Dynamics
 
 9
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 11:04:00 -
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 Nanohasan wrote:Why did brick squad even start killing MOM early?
 we made you guys no harm so why bother us in crappy BS like this?
 
 
 Its his way of scamming
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        |  Dztrgovac
 
 12
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 11:07:00 -
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 Lady Spank wrote:Because you are greedy leeches. 
 Dear so full of bull nullsec person from a troll alliance (Boohoo, CCP won't accept our doodle of a alliance logo, one which we intentionally made to troll everyone) ; what possibly makes you say that? Also, please unanchor all your POSes around R32 and R64 moons; that is even greedier leaching of precious nonrenewable game resources. Think of the poor bits and bytes!
 
 
 I mean what the ****? Someone doing PVE activity designed to grind ISK in order to grind ISK is a "greedy leech". Really? In what reality?
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        |  guska Cryotank
 No.Mercy
 Merciless.
 
 10
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 11:07:00 -
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 Nanohasan wrote:Why did brick squad even start killing MOM early?
 we made you guys no harm so why bother us in crappy BS like this?
 Do you read the forums? It's because incursion runners were abusing the incursion mechanics, and exploiting the broken risk:reward ratio.
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        |  Tallianna Avenkarde
 Beasts of Burden
 
 247
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 11:34:00 -
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 Dztrgovac wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Because you are greedy leeches. Dear so full of bull nullsec person from a troll alliance (Boohoo, CCP won't accept our doodle of a alliance logo, one which we intentionally made to troll everyone) ; what possibly makes you say that? Also, please unanchor all your POSes around R32 and R64 moons; that is even greedier leaching of precious nonrenewable game resources. Think of the poor bits and bytes! I mean what the ****? Someone doing PVE activity designed to grind ISK in order to grind ISK is a "greedy leech". Really? In what reality? 
 
 In a reality that you greedy leeches exploit a game mechanic to extend the life of an incursion to maximise your isk grinding.
 
 
 And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell.
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        |  Lady Spank
 Genos Occidere
 HYDRA RELOADED
 
 1133
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 11:36:00 -
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 Dztrgovac wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Because you are greedy leeches. Dear so full of bull nullsec person from a troll alliance (Boohoo, CCP won't accept our doodle of a alliance logo, one which we intentionally made to troll everyone) ; what possibly makes you say that? Also, please unanchor all your POSes around R32 and R64 moons; that is even greedier leaching of precious nonrenewable game resources. Think of the poor bits and bytes! I mean what the ****? Someone doing PVE activity designed to grind ISK in order to grind ISK is a "greedy leech". Really? In what reality? 
 While this has nothing to do with my alliance, feel free to point on the map where we hold any sov.
 (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â)
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        |  Krissada
 Native Freshfood
 Minmatar Republic
 
 78
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 12:32:00 -
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 For shame TDF.
 I have seen the logs and can confirm that TDF did indeed leave the negotiation table. I think something was mentioned about terrorists?...
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        |  Grey Azorria
 Federation Industries
 
 19
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 12:40:00 -
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 Darius III wrote:We were ready to stop killing the Motherships. The 'demands' made involved no ISK, no threats,and no ultimatums whatsoever. Can't be the only one who's wondering, what were your demands?
 Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
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        |  Garven Dreis
 Kane's Privateers
 
 4
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 13:40:00 -
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 This is going places.
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        |  AURORA MEDELIN
 Royal Amarr Institute
 Amarr Empire
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 15:38:00 -
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 Please excuse me, but who were you Mr. Delicious III ?
 It's like you're somebody important, or what?
 Why you not go to be back in the hole which was until now and stop thinking that we are interested in your monthly cycle.
 
 Your mom Aurora.
 
 
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        |  Nathan Jameson
 Talocan Dominion
 Talocan United
 
 271
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 15:57:00 -
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 AURORA MEDELIN wrote:I...speak English!
 I learn it...from a book.
 
 He's from Barcelona...
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        |  Xearal
 SOL Industries
 Black Thorne Alliance
 
 244
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 16:04:00 -
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 I for one welcome our new High-sec Overlords that watch over us and protect us from the danger of being kidnapped by Sansha for our bodies.
 
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        |  Cozmic Cowboy
 Mission Ctrl.
 Knights of Tomorrow
 
 6
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 16:26:00 -
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 Funny that you say TDF left negotiations and failed anyone... Only failure I see was an invitation to any such talks. Feel free to contact me or major leeconfuzd if you wish to speak with us
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        |  Lakshata Chawla
 Imperial Guardians
 The Aurora Shadow
 
 11
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 16:33:00 -
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 No surprise there, I thought the TDF leader was an annoying idiot after how he handled the HTDIRaver mom kills.
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        |  Adrienne Cesaille
 University of Caille
 Gallente Federation
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 16:40:00 -
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 I like your logic Darius. It's TDFs fault that I have to continue griefing the incursion community. I wish more of us could use that sorta logic and get away with it. I beat my wife because my boss won't listen to my demands. it's really his fault!
 
 No i don't run incursions, but a BS mentality and reasoning has to be called out. Grief em or don't but don't try and say it's someone elses fault
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        |  Xenuria
 Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
 
 147
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 16:48:00 -
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 So we'll hate him...
 
 
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        |  KrakizBad
 Eve Defence Force
 Fatal Ascension
 
 241
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 16:49:00 -
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 Confirming that Brick is in charge of all incursions griefers and everyone will definitely listen to what he has to say.
  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg
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        |  Grey Azorria
 Federation Industries
 
 19
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 16:50:00 -
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 Adrienne Cesaille wrote:I like your logic Darius. It's TDFs fault that I have to continue griefing the incursion community. I wish more of us could use that sorta logic and get away with it. I beat my wife because my boss won't listen to my demands. it's really his fault!
 No i don't run incursions, but a BS mentality and reasoning has to be called out. Grief em or don't but don't try and say it's someone elses fault
 What? It's extortion, not domestic abuse.
 Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
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        |  MadMuppet
 Kerguelen Station
 
 92
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 17:13:00 -
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 Nathan Jameson wrote:AURORA MEDELIN wrote:I...speak English!
 I learn it...from a book.
 He's from Barcelona... 
 Its hamster!
 Yes, I only have a Vigil, I've had a bad bit of luck Ok?
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        |  Nephilius
 Deep Core Mining Inc.
 Caldari State
 
 292
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 17:15:00 -
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 Darius III wrote:ITo the players in TDF: Your leadership has failed you. They are the sole reason we will continue killing the Moms. If not for their arrogance, you would be able to shortly return to less, or even no interruption in your ability to run incursions 23/7 Had your leaders simply spent 30 minutes in a conference-this thread would have been to announce my withdrawal of support for 'illegal' fleets.
 
 We will kill hostages if our demands are not met. The blood of the innocent will be on your hands, not ours.
 
 Megalomania is fun, kids!
 
 I still support the effort though, until CCP fixes the Incursions.
 If you bring down a giant, you're a hero. If you kill something weak-even if it has to die-then you will endure contempt.
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        |  Requiescat
 mUfFiN fAcToRy
 Psychotic Tendencies.
 
 34
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 17:15:00 -
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 Krissada wrote:I'M IMPORTANT 
 lol
 
 
 Darius III wrote: We made you no harm either. We protect INNOCENT CIVILIANS from kidnapping by the cruel and evil Sanshas to do horrific medical experiments on. Also confirming TDF forced us to destroy more motherships with their insolent tone and blatant disrespect of their 0.0 overlords.  
 lol
 
 
 Tallianna Avenkarde wrote:In a reality that you greedy leeches exploit a game mechanic to extend the life of an incursion to maximise your isk grinding.  
 check this out bro: "exploit a game mechanic." think about that phrase for a second, and think about what other neat things you could claim are "exploiting a game mechanic."
 
 i'm gonna build here from least to most poignant, should be fun:
 
 
  using a shield booster to repair incoming damage is exploiting a game mechanic 
 
  buying npc goods in one station and moving them to another station to sell for a profit is exploiting a game mechanic 
 
  using a highsec pos for research because it is better than a station is exploiting a game mechanic 
 
  flying guardians with abaddons because guardians repair armor and abaddons get an armor resistance bonus is exploiting a game mechanic 
 
  flying guardians into an incursion group and then not repping people and watching them die is exploiting a game mechanic 
 
  killing mothership sites to end incursions in highsec is exploiting a game mechanic 
 
 Quote:ex-+ploit/ik-êsploit/Verb:
 Make full use of and derive benefit from
 
 
 Lady Spank wrote:While this has nothing to do with my alliance, feel free to point on the map where we hold any sov. 
 elite pvp
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        |  Requiescat
 mUfFiN fAcToRy
 Psychotic Tendencies.
 
 34
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 17:16:00 -
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 Grey Azorria wrote:Can't be the only one who's wondering, what were your demands? 
 :popcorn:
 
 
 
 Darius III wrote:We made you no harm either. We protect INNOCENT CIVILIANS from kidnapping by the cruel and evil Sanshas to do horrific medical experiments on. Also confirming TDF forced us to destroy more motherships with their insolent tone and blatant disrespect of their 0.0 overlords.  
 you heard it here folks, brick squad overlords of 0.0
 
 
 
 is that darius? get a haircut, damn
 
 
 Adrienne Cesaille wrote:No i don't run incursions, but a BS mentality and reasoning has to be called out. Grief em or don't but don't try and say it's someone elses fault  
 i agree with this logic. it's cute that you're griefing these incursions. it's unfortunate that it happened right as i got my incursion alt trained up but whatever, it's not like i'm hungry. but seriously? if you're going to grief people you've got to own it. for once someone could actually learn a lesson from spitzerr, i never thought i would say that
 
 
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        |  Krissada
 Native Freshfood
 Minmatar Republic
 
 79
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.01.21 17:25:00 -
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 Requiescat wrote:Krissada wrote:I'M IMPORTANT lol 
 How dare you make fake quotes of me.
 Infidel!
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