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Yaris San
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:16:00 -
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For me its 450 million for a PLEX. If its more than that, I buy a 3 month sub and hope the prices fall during those 3 months.
"All this has happened before, and all this will happen again."
So say we all. |

Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:17:00 -
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Never, simply because i can afford 15 bucks every month easily. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Yaris San
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:22:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Never, simply because i can afford 15 bucks every month easily.
So can I.
But for me, part of the challenge is to pay for my gametime with isk. But when the price is too high I have no problem spending cash.
I'm just curious as to when others make that same decision.
"All this has happened before, and all this will happen again."
So say we all. |

Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
72
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:24:00 -
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That sort of depends on my wallets, in and out of game, and my desire to keep playing and/or training. Actually, right now, I'm loathe to pay in either fashion, so that might indicate how pricy the PLEX is, as well as my current finances. I think it's only 450 if you put up a buy order though.
Payed without PLEX for now anyway. Typically speaking though, ISK is harder to achieve-and keep-than money; so I usually end up paying with money. Only once, I think I payed with PLEX when it was down around 350 million. |

Kye Do'lan
Order of the Domain The Polaris Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:27:00 -
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Played with PLEX for last 2 years but will not buy PLEX now as its way too expensive |

Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
722
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:34:00 -
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The final valuation (once prices stabilize) of my stockpile in more than 300 billion, so even though I've moved from being a poor student to working paying $$$ still feels like it would be an expense that would hurt my 'pride'.
Pretty much one of the main reasons EvE manages to retain so many veteran players is that those players don't pay any RL isk for their accounts. 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |

Ursula LeGuinn
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:44:00 -
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If they ever hit 700m+ ISK, I'll reduce the number of accounts I PLEX by one and purchase a year-long sub for it instead.
In essence, that would save me 879m ISK per month when you factor in the subscription discount.
Well, that's the plan, anyway. Until I remember2EVE again I'm paying out of pocket. "The EVE forums are intended to provide a warm, friendly atmosphere for the EVE community."-áGÇö-áEVElopedia |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1289
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:48:00 -
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360 mil
o.. wait..
at what price you stop buying "bread, rolls whatever" and/or material to bake it .. and start to produce material by yourself and become self-sufficient.. I guess time is coming..  |

Nex apparatu5
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
148
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Posted - 2012.01.21 15:26:00 -
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I pay in cash no matter the price of plex, because I have a job. |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.21 15:27:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:I pay in cash no matter the price of plex, because I have a job.
I used to have a job then i took arrow to the knee.. / * not even funny.
or was it that imaginary financial crisis .. not sure now.. |
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Yaris San
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Posted - 2012.01.21 15:44:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Nex apparatu5 wrote:I pay in cash no matter the price of plex, because I have a job. I used to have a job then i took arrow to the knee.. / * not even funny.
I see what you did there :D
"All this has happened before, and all this will happen again."
So say we all. |

David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
298
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Posted - 2012.01.21 15:58:00 -
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Yaris San wrote:For me its 450 million for a PLEX. If its more than that, I buy a 3 month sub and hope the prices fall during those 3 months.
400mil was my cut off point now that they are 500mil and beyond ive lets some account go unsubbed Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs. |

Mnengli Noiliffe
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.21 16:02:00 -
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when its over 1.5 bil i'll keep playing until i run out of isk and then quit. paying for eve online? you gotta be kidding me. |

ShardowRhino
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.21 16:18:00 -
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I recently coughed up 450 or more for an alt account. My main account used to be plex only, though the time I spent farming isk in various ways ate up a lot of time, so much time that it meant that any 'game time" I had was put towards that effort of keeping the account going. That means the game time I had was used to keep an account going so that I could keep farming to make isk to get a plex, to farm more, to get a plex...to....never profit.
I recently spent a few hours doing L4 missions and ended up making less then 20mil. The missions I have been getting have been absolute trash and the payouts seem to be reduced, but also take longer. The rate it has been going I would effectively spend 24 hours in game making isk to give to someone in trade for a plex card that cost them $20, which is less then 3 hours of work at a min.wage job. That would leave it at a 8 to 1 ratio of in game hours to RL work hours. Half a bil of isk is just asking way to much for what could be 3 or less hours of RL work time. Me, I'm done with plex unless those prices start to drop significantly.
We have had this discussion before and we will have it again, especially when one could have gotten 3 months of game time for much less then a plex is going for nowadays. The only way for the prices to come down is to kill the market, that means everyone needs to stop buying game time with isk. People want that isk and right now there is to much supply of it and not enough cash being put into selling plex cards. I would like to reactivate another alt as well, at least, but I won't because I'm done with giving so much time away for next to nothing in return. Theres no point in staying in game if all you are doing is working for someone to keep your account going, yet not leave you with enough time and isk to go and have fun. It is a game, its meant to be fun. Hit that wall and that next plex purchase will make you cringe and decide that extra account is not worth the time.
The funny thing is that I suspect that a lot of people that want that isk are the ones out in 0.0 where isk is far easier to scoop up. I also think that those that are buying those plex cards with isk are the ones in empire or even low sec where the isk does not flow so freely. Even if it did, the price of plex cards would increase to balance things out, once again in favor of those selling the cards.
Why did I reactivate my alt with isk? I don't know, maybe a knee jerk reaction. Perhaps I thought isk was going to be made at a rate where the higher plex prices are effectively no different then they were most of a year ago. A slight bump in mineral prices does not compensate it. The apparent reduced isk flow from L4s means that there is going to be more time spent making the same amount of isk as last year, which means gtcs are going to take nearly twice as long to get the isk for. If I had known that, instead of assuming things would balance out, I would have left the account dead in the water like the others. |

ShardowRhino
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.21 16:20:00 -
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Mnengli Noiliffe wrote:when its over 1.5 bil i'll keep playing until i run out of isk and then quit. paying for eve online? you gotta be kidding me.
ha, yeah paying for an online game, at least beyond the initial software price(though thats starting to get blurred as well) is becoming antiquated. It does make me wonder about paying for eve when I have other alternatives to eat up my time, but give me far more enjoyment without the grind to keep an account going. Especially in a game where one still needs to grind for money to get to the fun part! |

malaire
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Posted - 2012.01.21 16:41:00 -
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With my current ISK income somewhere between 1-2 bil might become too much. New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |

Orlacc
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
98
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Posted - 2012.01.21 16:43:00 -
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Yaris San wrote:For me its 450 million for a PLEX. If its more than that, I buy a 3 month sub and hope the prices fall during those 3 months.
That's about the case for me as well. |

ShardowRhino
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.21 16:45:00 -
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malaire wrote:With my current ISK income somewhere between 1-2 bil might become too much.
Sounds about the same as my old isk income. That made me think about things even more, well, a split second really. Not only was I selling a lot of game time to someone to keep my account going, but I was also helping to keep the prices down on some goods and minerals by supplying such goods on the market. In a way it became playing a game to supporting the game time of others by giving them the isk to buy cheaper goods then they otherwise would be if I was not looking to get a gtc and turned to creating said items.
This thread also reminds me of past threads where people would start to flame away because they think that 20+hours of time spent in game is worth a trade of $20. |

Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
292
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Posted - 2012.01.21 16:52:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Never, simply because i can afford 15 bucks every month easily.
This. I am not a hardcore player, so I'd be broke in a few months if I tried to play by buying PLEX. If you bring down a giant, you're a hero. If you kill something weak-even if it has to die-then you will endure contempt. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
657
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Posted - 2012.01.21 16:54:00 -
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Keep it up, guys.
Keep posting whine threads about having to pay for subs or you quit.
Then see how you feel when CCP listens to you and goes free to play. I look forward to the hilarity.
Mr Epeen  Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
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Aramatheia
Traveler 52 D-Collective
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Posted - 2012.01.21 16:55:00 -
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whatever i can manage in a month, though if it gets to the point i cannot make enough isk to pay then i'll be dropping out as i can no longer afford to pay via cash. My RL expenses have doubled in the past few months and to add to that my work agreement is soon coming to an end and i'll soon be having to look for a new job. Got to love uncertainty lol |

Abrazzar
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Posted - 2012.01.21 17:12:00 -
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Well, I bought a PLEX for 490 mil today. Which will be my last one for now, my account runs out in 10 days and that will be that. Reverse redeemed it so I can activate my account again, maybe, in the future. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |

Tore Vest
Vikinghall
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Posted - 2012.01.21 17:16:00 -
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I can and have paid real cash for all my accounts... But.. Im not doing that anymore  |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
657
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Posted - 2012.01.21 17:18:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Well, I bought a PLEX for 490 mil today. Which will be my last one for now, my account runs out in 10 days and that will be that. Reverse redeemed it so I can activate my account again, maybe, in the future.
Good. Another stealth 'I want EVE to be F2P' whine.
Remember what happened the last time the vocal minority threatened to quit. CCP listened.
See you on the other side, peeps.
Mr Epeen 
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |

Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.21 17:51:00 -
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umm around 700mil i will refuse to renew my subs. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2012.01.21 17:57:00 -
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I play the games I like even if they are not free.
I don't play the games I don't like even if they are free. |

Rocky Deadshot
In The Goo EVE Trade Alliance
76
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Posted - 2012.01.21 18:04:00 -
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While I'm uncomfortable with the current price of plex, I'm even more uncomfortable with the rage war from null against high sec as well as, I personally find negativity of the community becoming a major reason why I don't want to play after getting home from work, and why on weekends I kind of wish I could go into work.
I will probably sub another month on both my accts using plex and make a decision at the end of feb if i want to continue playing... at this point I will say I'm not paying $15 per acct per month to play a game that seems to be steering in the direction the CSM is trying to take it, where high sec is a baron waste land because you cant make enough money to do a damn thing in it. |

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.21 18:27:00 -
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The rise in the price of plex is probably due to more people playing the game since Crucible and recent MMORG voting with expectations for even more players. However, CCP isn't motivated to do anything about plex price instead favoring re-establishing subs by those who unsubbed because of last summer's PR fiasco. Individual RL plex prices being the most expensive form of funding game play, CCP may have a preference for them. But, if that were the case, I would expect them to put the brakes on current prices which they are not doing as the increased isk price certainly will impact in-game demand even while stimulating RL demand to purchase them for the exchange value. So, I have to favor the re-establishment of subscriptions theory.
Obviously, people are considering switching to sub payment as indicated in this thread. But, who really knows except CCP? We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
147
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Posted - 2012.01.21 18:52:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:However, CCP isn't motivated to do anything about plex price instead favoring re-establishing subs by those who unsubbed because of last summer's PR fiasco. Individual RL plex prices being the most expensive form of funding game play, CCP may have a preference for them.
PLEX is a fantastic ISK sink that self adjusts to ISK inflow / outflow balance.
ATM they are expensive because of the Fanfest ticket thingy plus too much ISK being created and too little being destroyed.
If you look at the past years you'll see PLEX costed less even when population was bigger than today's so the cause of price rising is unlikely to be a lot about increased player base.
I would not exclude CCP became more lenient against bots as well, until paying playerbase is back over a certain thresold. |

OfBalance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.21 19:03:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Never, simply because i can afford 15 bucks every month easily.
This. If 15 bucks a month ever matters that much to me, i'll be looking for a new job. |
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